Re: [INDIAN FIRST] Re: [issuesonline_worldwide] Why I can’t pay tribute to Thackeray by Markandey Katju
- Hitler had the same patriotism and a similar following as Bal ThackerayBal Tahckeray was one of the foremost in bringing mind-boggling violence into politics and religion. He was also one of the first to promote hurt sensitivities as a justification for unparalleled violence. His goons have now taken over and the two girls on facebook and their relatives are at the receiving end.Bombay became the commercial centre of India with inputs from everyone. One of the reasons for Bombay's pre-eminence is due to the large number of national institutions there. Thus Bombay is the HQ for Western Railway, SW Railway and a few other railway zones. It is also the headquarters for the Shipping Corp. of India, most of the national banks and so on and so forth. This in turn made it convenient for industries to flourish there. Along comes Bal Thackeray and declares that Bobmbay belongs to Marathis and unleashes violence on the people who helped to make Bombay what it is.Someone said that politicians think of the next elections whereas statesmen think of the next generation. In contrast Bal Thackeray was. a myopic goon who could not even beyond his own nose.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Abhilash Khandekar <abhilash@...> wrote:Thackeray was an enigma to many. But when he opposed the illegal Friday namaz on the streets by Muslims in Mumbai, was he wrong ? Where was (Justice) Katju then ? Or, if he opposed the Bangaldeshi infiltrators in thousands into India, what was wrong ? His only weak point was that perhaps he never learnt the art of glib-talking something Delhi always likes. He did not know much of diplomatic language either. He was forthright and very nationalist to his core. Maharashtra was created on linguistic lines so if he spoke of Marathi what was wrong ? He kept gathering huge crowds over the past four decades simply because he had some guts which no one in India could match. Why envy him, after he is gone ?
In any case Balasaheb does not really need Katju's tribute; more than 20 lakh peoople physically and more than that through TV channels, have paid great respects to the steely man who was always outspoken and loved his state and India/. He would often said in Maharashtra--be a Maharashtrian and elsewhere be an Indian.
Balasaheb all along was anti-Nehru-Gandhi and if that pains many, so be it.
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1. In any part of India, immigrants from other States are either more qualified and skilled to fill up he vacancies and they work hard for their survival and progress, being in a stranger environment. The same applies to Mumbai City, where opportunities are plenty as well as the competition in which the locals lag behind.Mumbai experienced discrimination against locals, esp. in Railway recruitments as the Railway Ministers from Bihar- Nitish, Paswan or Lallu were all recruiting only Bihari-s and UP-ites for WESTERN RAILWAY BY RELEASING ADVERTISEMENTS BY RRB ONLY IN THE NEWSPAPERS OF BIHAR AND U.P. AND THE WRITTEN EXAMS HELD IN MUBAI HAD ONLY CANDIDATES ROM BIHAR/U.P., leading to Raj and MNS showing their anti-Bihari movements.2. Bal Thakre, like Periyar/Annadurai or Karunanidhi, cashed on the regional emotive factors to incite the local population to create a rift with the immigrants who were "usurping" the jobs that could be given to locals.3. Initially, in 1960-s Thakre found the harmless South Indians as targets, attacking the Udipi hotels to begin with to drive away the Dhotiwalla-s and many went back to Tamilnadu and Karnataka fearing physical threats. But the same Sainiks by evening went to these Udipi hotels and had sumptuous Dosa and Idli-s without paying for them. This was beginning of Shiv Sena, a violent group set up by Thakre as he as a Cartoonist faced competition from South Indian Cartoonists in the English dailies.4.Regional affinity is a powerful force as proved by the DMK coming to power followed by Shiv Sena and other States, but for the limitations. Thakre used the platform of Regional identity and many of his policies during discussions were stinging but true e.g. Abolish Caste reservations totally, but there are only two Castes in India-Rich and Poor, bring up the poor but do not bring down the rich (who provide employment in their ventures).5. The affection towards Thakre during his funeral would have astounded anyone with over 2 million (according to Police estimates) thronging the Shiaji Park and streets nearby travelling from different parts of the State to pay last respects to him. The Crowd was thronging and dense but disciplined throughout to the great surprise of the Police, who expected some stone throwing that might lead to riots.The 2 millions present is unprecedented in any part of the World and no wonder the elite in Delhi were surprised at the spontaneity of response by the people of Maharshtra to this non-political celebrity wielding unbridled power with the people.From: Sukla Sen <sukla.sen@...>Subject: [issuesonline_worldwide] Why I can’t pay tribute to Thackeray by Markandey Katju
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Why I can’t pay tribute to Thackeray
18 November 2012 , By Markandey Katju
His bhumiputra theory flies in the face of our Constitution and works
against the unity needed to ensure development
Muppadhu kodi mugamudayal
Enil maipuram ondrudayal
Ival Seppumozhi padhinetudayal
Enil Sindhanai ondrudayal
(This Bharatmata has 30 crore faces
But her body is one
She speaks 18 languages
But her thought is one)
Tamil poet Subramania Bharathi
Bhedad gana vinauyanti bhinnah supajapah paraih
Tasmat samghatayogesu prayateran ganah sada
(Republics have been destroyed because of internal divisions among the people;
Hence a republic should always strive to achieve unity and good
relations among the people)
Mahabharat, Shanti Parva, chapter 108, shloka 14
Tesam anyonyabhinnanam svauaktim anutisthatam
Nigrahah panditaih karyah ksipram eva pradhanatah
(Therefore the wise authorities should crush the separatist forces
trying to assert their strength)
Mahabharat, Shanti Parva, 108:26
Political leaders, film stars, cricketers, etc. are all falling over
one another to pay tribute to the late Bal Thackeray. Amidst this
plethora of accolades and plaudits pouring in from the high and
mighty, I humbly wish to register my vote of dissent.
I know of the maxim De mortuis nil nisi bonum (of the dead speak only
good), but I regret I cannot, since I regard the interest of my
country above observance of civil proprieties.
What is Bal Thackeray’s legacy?
It is the anti-national ‘sons of the soil’ (bhumiputra) theory.
Article 1(1) of the Indian Constitution states: “India, that is
Bharat, shall be a Union of States.”
Thus, India is not a confederation but a union.
Article 19 (1) (e) states: “All citizens shall have the right — to
reside and settle in any part of the territory of India.”
Thus, it is a fundamental right of a Gujarati, south Indian, Bihari,
U.P.ite, or person from any other part of India to migrate to
Maharashtra and settle down there, just as it is of Maharashtrians to
settle down in any part of India (though there are some restrictions
in J&K, and some North-East States, due to historical reasons).
The bhumiputra theory states that Maharashtra essentially belongs to
Marathi people, while Gujaratis, south Indians, north Indians, etc.
are outsiders. This is in the teeth of Articles 1(1) and 19(1)(e) of
the Constitution. India is one nation, and hence non-Maharashtrians
cannot be treated as outsiders in Maharashtra.
The Shiv Sena created by Thackeray attacked south Indians in the 1960s
and 70s, and vandalised their restaurants and homes. In 2008, Biharis
and U.P.ites living in Mumbai (the bhaiyyas who eke out a livelihood
as milk and newspaper vendors, taxi drivers etc.) were described as
infiltrators and attacked, their taxis smashed, and several beaten up.
Muslims were also vilified
This, of course, created a vote bank for Thackeray based on hatred (as
had Hitler, of whom Thackeray was an admirer), and how does it matter
if the country breaks up and is Balkanised?
Apart from the objection to the ‘sons of the soil’ theory for being
anti-national and unconstitutional, there is an even more basic
objection, which may rebound on Thackeray’s own people.
India is broadly a country of immigrants (like North America) and
92-93 per cent of the people living in India today are not the
original inhabitants but descendants of immigrants who came mainly
from the north-west seeking a comfortable life in the sub-continent
(see the article ‘What is India?’ on my blog justicekatju.blogspot.in
and the video on the website kgfindia.com ).
The original inhabitants (the real bhumiputra) of India are the
pre-Dravidian tribals, known as Adivasis (the Bhils, Gonds, Santhals,
Todas, etc.) who are only 7-8 per cent of our population today.
Hence if the bhumiputra theory is seriously implemented, 92-93 per
cent of Maharashtrians (including, perhaps, the Thackeray family) may
have to be regarded as outsiders and treated accordingly. The only
real bhumiputra in Maharashtra are the Bhils and other tribals, who
are only 7-8 per cent of the population of Maharashtra.
Several separatist and fissiparous forces are at work in India today
(including the bhumiputra theory). All patriotic people must combat
Why must we remain united? We must remain united because only a
massive modern industry can generate the huge wealth we require for
the welfare of our people — agriculture alone cannot do this — and
modern industry requires a huge market. Only a united India can
provide the huge market for the modern industry we must create to
abolish poverty, unemployment and other social evils, and to provide
for the huge health care and modern education systems we must set up
if we wish to come to the front ranks of the most advanced countries.
Hence I regret I cannot pay any tribute to Mr. Bal Thackeray.
(Markandey Katju is Chairman, Press Council of India.)
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