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  • Meleka Youssef
    There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the BURNING BUSH which the prophet Moses saw. + Jesus Servant +
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 1 2:03 AM
      There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.

      + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote:

       ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ " ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå äíÑÇä ÇáÇÖØåÇÏ ÇáÐí ßÇäæÇ íáÇÞæäå Úáì íÏ ÝÑÚæä ¡ æåæ ãÇ íäØÈÞ Úáì ÔÚÈ Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã " (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) .

      æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) . æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22 : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) .

      æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .


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    • + Jesus Servant +
      I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don’t know it s from any species Meleka Youssef wrote: There is
      Message 2 of 4 , Aug 1 2:45 AM
        I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don’t know it's from any species


        Meleka Youssef <melhabysf@...> wrote:
        There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.

        + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@ yahoo.com> wrote:

         ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ " ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå äíÑÇä ÇáÇÖØåÇÏ ÇáÐí ßÇäæÇ íáÇÞæäå Úáì íÏ ÝÑÚæä ¡ æåæ ãÇ íäØÈÞ Úáì ÔÚÈ Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã " (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) .

        æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) . æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22 : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) .

        æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .


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      • arbible
        Some useful info can be found at: http://www.geographia.com/egypt/sinai/burningbush.htm The species is Rubus Sanctus. ... know it s from any species ...
        Message 3 of 4 , Aug 5 12:05 PM
          Some useful info can be found at:
          http://www.geographia.com/egypt/sinai/burningbush.htm
          The species is Rubus Sanctus.
          --- In arbible@yahoogroups.com, + Jesus Servant +
          <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote:
          >
          > I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don't
          know it's from any species
          >
          >
          > Meleka Youssef <melhabysf@...> wrote: There is at the
          monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called
          the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.
          >
          > + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote: ÇáÚáíÞÉ
          ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ
          ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ "
          ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ
          ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì
          ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ
          ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå
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          Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß
          ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä
          ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã "
          (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå
          æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä
          ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá
          ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä
          > : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) . æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ
          ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) .
          æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå
          ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ
          Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22
          : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ
          äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) . æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ
          ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ
          ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ
          ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .
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