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    العليقة شجيرة شوكية مما كان ينبت في صحراء سيناء ، ولا يمكن الجزم بنوع الشجيرات الشوكية
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 1, 2006
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       ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ " ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå äíÑÇä ÇáÇÖØåÇÏ ÇáÐí ßÇäæÇ íáÇÞæäå Úáì íÏ ÝÑÚæä ¡ æåæ ãÇ íäØÈÞ Úáì ÔÚÈ Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã " (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) .

      æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) . æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22 : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) .

      æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .


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    • Meleka Youssef
      There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the BURNING BUSH which the prophet Moses saw. + Jesus Servant +
      Message 2 of 4 , Aug 1, 2006
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        There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.

        + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote:

         ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ " ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå äíÑÇä ÇáÇÖØåÇÏ ÇáÐí ßÇäæÇ íáÇÞæäå Úáì íÏ ÝÑÚæä ¡ æåæ ãÇ íäØÈÞ Úáì ÔÚÈ Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã " (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) .

        æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) . æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22 : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) .

        æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .


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      • + Jesus Servant +
        I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don’t know it s from any species Meleka Youssef wrote: There is
        Message 3 of 4 , Aug 1, 2006
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          I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don’t know it's from any species


          Meleka Youssef <melhabysf@...> wrote:
          There is at the monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.

          + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@ yahoo.com> wrote:

           ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ " ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå äíÑÇä ÇáÇÖØåÇÏ ÇáÐí ßÇäæÇ íáÇÞæäå Úáì íÏ ÝÑÚæä ¡ æåæ ãÇ íäØÈÞ Úáì ÔÚÈ Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã " (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) .

          æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) . æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22 : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) .

          æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .


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        • arbible
          Some useful info can be found at: http://www.geographia.com/egypt/sinai/burningbush.htm The species is Rubus Sanctus. ... know it s from any species ...
          Message 4 of 4 , Aug 5, 2006
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            Some useful info can be found at:
            http://www.geographia.com/egypt/sinai/burningbush.htm
            The species is Rubus Sanctus.
            --- In arbible@yahoogroups.com, + Jesus Servant +
            <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote:
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            > I know but I ask about the species of the burning bush they don't
            know it's from any species
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            > Meleka Youssef <melhabysf@...> wrote: There is at the
            monastery of saint Catherine a tree which is traditionally called
            the ''BURNING BUSH'' which the prophet Moses saw.
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            > + Jesus Servant + <jesus_daughter80@...> wrote: ÇáÚáíÞÉ
            ÔÌíÑÉ ÔæßíÉ ããÇ ßÇä íäÈÊ Ýí ÕÍÑÇÁ ÓíäÇÁ ¡ æáÇ íãßä ÇáÌÒã ÈäæÚ ÇáÔÌíÑÇÊ
            ÇáÔæßíÉ ÇáÊí ßÇäÊ ãäåÇ Êáß ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí ÑÂåÇ ãæÓì ÇáäÈí Ýí ÇáÈÑíÉ "
            ÊÊæÞÏ ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ æÇáÚáíÞÉ áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ " ( ÎÑ 3 : 2) . ææÇÖÍ Ãä ÇáÙÇåÑÉ
            ßÇäÊ ãÚÌÒÉ ÊÌáì ÝíåÇ Çááå áãæÓì . æíÑì ßËíÑæä – ßãÇ ßÇä íÑì ÞÏÇãì
            ÇáãÝÓÑíä ãä ÇáíåæÏ – Ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÇáÊí áã Êßä ÊÍÊÑÞ ÑÛã ÃäåÇ ÊÊæÞÏ
            ÈÇáäÇÑ ¡ ÅäãÇ ßÇäÊ ÊÔíÑ Åáì Ãä ÔÚÈ Çááå áÇ íãßä Ãä ÊÍÑÞå Ãæ ÊÞÖí Úáíå
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            Çááå Ýí ßá ÇáÚÕæÑ ¡ ßãÇ ÍÏË ãÚ ÇáÝÊíÉ ÇáËáÇË ÇáÐíä ÃáÞÇåã äÈæÎÐäÕÑ ãáß
            ÈÇÈá Ýí ÃÊæä ÇáäÇÑ ¡ æáßä " áã Êßä ááäÇÑ ÞæÉ Úáì ÃÌÓÇãåã ¡ æÔÚÑÉ ãä
            ÑÄæÓåã áã ÊÍÊÑÞ ¡ æÓÑÇæíáåã áã ÊÊÛíÑ ¡ æÑÇÆÍÉ ÇáäÇÑ áã ÊÃÊ Úáíåã "
            (ÏÇäíÇá 3 : 27) . ßãÇ íÑì ÇáÈÚÖ Ýí ÇáäíÑÇä ÇáãÊæÞÏÉ ÌáÇá ãÍÖÑ Çááå
            æÞÏÇÓÊå ¡ ÍÊì Åäå ÞÇá áãæÓì : " áÇ ÊÞÊÑÈ Åáì ååäÇ . ÅÎáÚ ÍÐÇÁß ãä
            ÑÌáíß áÃä ÇáãæÖÚ ÇáÐí ÃäÊ æÇÞÝ Úáíå ÃÑÖ ãÞÏÓÉ " (ÎÑ 3 : 5) . æßãÇ íÞæá
            ßÇÊÈ ÇáÑÓÇáÉ Åáì ÇáÚÈÑÇäííä
            > : áÃä ÅáåäÇ äÇÑ ÂßáÉ " (ÚÈ 12 : 29) . æáã íäÓ ãæÓì ÃãÑ ÇáÚáíÞÉ
            ÚäÏ ÈÑßÊå ááÃÓÈÇØ ÝÊßáã Úä " ÑÖì ÇáÓÇßä Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ " ( ÊË 33 : 16) .
            æÞÏ ÇÊÎÐ ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ ãä ÅÚáÇä Çááå äÝÓå áãæÓì Ýí ÇáÚáíÞÉ ÈÃäå " Åáå
            ÅÈÑÇåíã æÅáÉÅÓÍÞ æÅáå íÚÞæÈ ¡ ÈÑåÇäÇð Úáì ÞíÇãÉ ÇáÃãæÇÊ áÃä Çááå " áíÓ åæ
            Åáå ÃãæÇÊ Èá Åáå ÃÍíÇÁ " (ãÑÞÓ 12 : 26 æ 27 ¡ áæ 20 : 37 æ 38 ¡ ãÊ 22
            : 32) . ßãÇ íÐßÑ ÇÓÊÝÇäæÓ ÙåæÑ " ãáÇß ÇáÑÈ Ýí ÈÑíÉ ÌÈá ÓíäÇÁ Ýí áåíÈ
            äÇÑ ÚáìÞÉ " áãæÓì (ÃÚ 7 : 30-34) . æíÞæá ÇáÑÈ íÓæÚ Åä " ßá ÔÌÑÉ
            ÊÚÑÝ ãä ËãÑåÇ . ÝÅäåã áÇ íÌäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÊíäÇð ¡ æáÇ íÞØÝæä ãä ÇáÚáíÞÉ
            ÚäÈÇð " (áæ 6 : 44) ¡ æåæ ÇáãÑÇÏÝ ááÞæá : åá íÌÊäæä ãä ÇáÔæß ÚäÈÇð ¡ Ãæ
            ãä ÇáÍÓß ÊíäÇð " (ãÊ 7 : 16) .
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