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  • James Ewen
    Here s a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile. Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32 Configure|Ports|New Port Select IS-Server as
    Message 1 of 21 , Apr 1 12:40 PM
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      Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.

      Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32

      Configure|Ports|New Port

      Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.

      Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
      desired port number... I picked 14439.

      Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.

      Start up RadioMobile.

      Go to the APRS setup under

      Options|APRS

      Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
      number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
      push your APRS data into, and click apply.

      You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.

      If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
      also see the stations on the map.

      If you don't have a map up, click

      Edit|Fit Map to Units

      You can also click

      Edit|Merge Pictures

      and pick a map to stick in the background.

      James
      VE6SRV
    • Steve Daniels
      Good work there James. Seems it s a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US or Canada If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me
      Message 2 of 21 , Apr 1 1:08 PM
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        Good work there James.

        Seems it’s a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US or Canada

        If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know

        Also the OSM option is good

         

        Steve

        G6UIM

         


        From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Ewen
        Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile

         

         

        Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.

        Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32

        Configure|Ports|New Port

        Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.

        Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
        desired port number... I picked 14439.

        Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.

        Start up RadioMobile.

        Go to the APRS setup under

        Options|APRS

        Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
        number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
        push your APRS data into, and click apply.

        You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.

        If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
        also see the stations on the map.

        If you don't have a map up, click

        Edit|Fit Map to Units

        You can also click

        Edit|Merge Pictures

        and pick a map to stick in the background.

        James
        VE6SRV

      • Steve Daniels
        http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm The installer on that link is a big help, Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis The
        Message 3 of 21 , Apr 1 2:25 PM
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          http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm

          The installer on that link is a big help,

          Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis

           

          The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free

          http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html

           

          Steve

          G6UIM


          From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels
          Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
          To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile

           

           

          Good work there James.

          Seems it’s a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US or Canada

          If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know

          Also the OSM option is good

           

          Steve

          G6UIM

           


          From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James Ewen
          Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
          To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile

           

           

          Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.

          Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32

          Configure|Ports|New Port

          Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.

          Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
          desired port number... I picked 14439.

          Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.

          Start up RadioMobile.

          Go to the APRS setup under

          Options|APRS

          Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
          number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
          push your APRS data into, and click apply.

          You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.

          If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
          also see the stations on the map.

          If you don't have a map up, click

          Edit|Fit Map to Units

          You can also click

          Edit|Merge Pictures

          and pick a map to stick in the background.

          James
          VE6SRV

        • gsdatplace
          With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as
          Message 4 of 21 , Apr 11 10:33 AM
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            With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite possible)

            1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to keep things the same as James...)

            2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it and its trace logs shot the connection:
            Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
            Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
            Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:57128

            3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".

            But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:

            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
            # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12

            I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...

            The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets appear on the local server port...

            am I doing something wrong Lynn or am I asking you for another feature? ;)

            Garrett
            VE6RKY



            --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Daniels" <steve@...> wrote:
            >
            > http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
            >
            > The installer on that link is a big help,
            >
            > Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis
            >
            >
            >
            > The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free
            >
            > http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
            >
            >
            >
            > Steve
            >
            > G6UIM
            >
            > _____
            >
            > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > Of Steve Daniels
            > Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
            > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Good work there James.
            >
            > Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US
            > or Canada
            >
            > If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know
            >
            > Also the OSM option is good
            >
            >
            >
            > Steve
            >
            > G6UIM
            >
            >
            >
            > _____
            >
            > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > Of James Ewen
            > Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
            > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.
            >
            > Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
            >
            > Configure|Ports|New Port
            >
            > Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
            >
            > Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
            > desired port number... I picked 14439.
            >
            > Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
            >
            > Start up RadioMobile.
            >
            > Go to the APRS setup under
            >
            > Options|APRS
            >
            > Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
            > number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
            > push your APRS data into, and click apply.
            >
            > You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
            >
            > If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
            > also see the stations on the map.
            >
            > If you don't have a map up, click
            >
            > Edit|Fit Map to Units
            >
            > You can also click
            >
            > Edit|Merge Pictures
            >
            > and pick a map to stick in the background.
            >
            > James
            > VE6SRV
            >
          • apenadragon
            *eyes glaze over* I see where this is a useful tool, but I m thinking it s beyond my current level of understanding... SO, here comes the stupid question, what
            Message 5 of 21 , Apr 11 10:55 AM
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              *eyes glaze over*

              I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current level of understanding...

              SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with APRS data give?

              Adam
              KC2ANT (unedumacated idiot in training)

              --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "gsdatplace" <garrett@...> wrote:
              >
              > With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite possible)
              >
              > 1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to keep things the same as James...)
              >
              > 2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it and its trace logs shot the connection:
              > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
              > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
              > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:57128
              >
              > 3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".
              >
              > But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:
              >
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
              > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
              >
              > I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...
              >
              > The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets appear on the local server port...
              >
              > am I doing something wrong Lynn or am I asking you for another feature? ;)
              >
              > Garrett
              > VE6RKY
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Daniels" <steve@> wrote:
              > >
              > > http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
              > >
              > > The installer on that link is a big help,
              > >
              > > Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free
              > >
              > > http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Steve
              > >
              > > G6UIM
              > >
              > > _____
              > >
              > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > Of Steve Daniels
              > > Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
              > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Good work there James.
              > >
              > > Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US
              > > or Canada
              > >
              > > If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know
              > >
              > > Also the OSM option is good
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Steve
              > >
              > > G6UIM
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > _____
              > >
              > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > Of James Ewen
              > > Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
              > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.
              > >
              > > Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
              > >
              > > Configure|Ports|New Port
              > >
              > > Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
              > >
              > > Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
              > > desired port number... I picked 14439.
              > >
              > > Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
              > >
              > > Start up RadioMobile.
              > >
              > > Go to the APRS setup under
              > >
              > > Options|APRS
              > >
              > > Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
              > > number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
              > > push your APRS data into, and click apply.
              > >
              > > You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
              > >
              > > If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
              > > also see the stations on the map.
              > >
              > > If you don't have a map up, click
              > >
              > > Edit|Fit Map to Units
              > >
              > > You can also click
              > >
              > > Edit|Merge Pictures
              > >
              > > and pick a map to stick in the background.
              > >
              > > James
              > > VE6SRV
              > >
              >
            • daveocn
              May I have a password for call sign GB1PBL please ? Thank you, Dave G1OCN.
              Message 6 of 21 , Apr 11 11:21 AM
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                May I have a password for call sign GB1PBL please ?

                Thank you,

                Dave G1OCN.
              • g4ilo
                Perhaps I m missing something here but when you connected using telnet [which I ve never done] did you send a valid login string and specify a filter? If you
                Message 7 of 21 , Apr 11 11:23 AM
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                  Perhaps I'm missing something here but when you connected using telnet [which I've never done] did you send a valid login string and specify a filter? If you connect using a different instance of APRSIS32 does it show any data?

                  Julian, G4ILO

                  --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "gsdatplace" <garrett@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite possible)
                  >
                  > 1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to keep things the same as James...)
                  >
                  > 2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it and its trace logs shot the connection:
                  > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
                  > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
                  > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:57128
                  >
                  > 3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".
                  >
                  > But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:
                  >
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                  >
                  > I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...
                  >
                  > The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets appear on the local server port...
                  >
                  > am I doing something wrong Lynn or am I asking you for another feature? ;)
                  >
                  > Garrett
                  > VE6RKY
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Daniels" <steve@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
                  > >
                  > > The installer on that link is a big help,
                  > >
                  > > Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free
                  > >
                  > > http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Steve
                  > >
                  > > G6UIM
                  > >
                  > > _____
                  > >
                  > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                  > > Of Steve Daniels
                  > > Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
                  > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Good work there James.
                  > >
                  > > Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US
                  > > or Canada
                  > >
                  > > If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know
                  > >
                  > > Also the OSM option is good
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Steve
                  > >
                  > > G6UIM
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > _____
                  > >
                  > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                  > > Of James Ewen
                  > > Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
                  > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.
                  > >
                  > > Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
                  > >
                  > > Configure|Ports|New Port
                  > >
                  > > Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
                  > >
                  > > Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
                  > > desired port number... I picked 14439.
                  > >
                  > > Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
                  > >
                  > > Start up RadioMobile.
                  > >
                  > > Go to the APRS setup under
                  > >
                  > > Options|APRS
                  > >
                  > > Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
                  > > number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
                  > > push your APRS data into, and click apply.
                  > >
                  > > You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
                  > >
                  > > If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
                  > > also see the stations on the map.
                  > >
                  > > If you don't have a map up, click
                  > >
                  > > Edit|Fit Map to Units
                  > >
                  > > You can also click
                  > >
                  > > Edit|Merge Pictures
                  > >
                  > > and pick a map to stick in the background.
                  > >
                  > > James
                  > > VE6SRV
                  > >
                  >
                • Steve Daniels
                  The APRS Station positions show in radio mobile, you can then plot to see if they are line of site or not and other various things. There is an installer
                  Message 8 of 21 , Apr 11 11:27 AM
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                    The APRS Station positions show in radio mobile, you can then plot to see if they are line of site or not and other various things.

                    There is an installer program that does a lot of the setup an makes it much easier to get going.

                     

                    Steve

                    G6UIM

                     


                    From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of apenadragon
                    Sent: 11 April 2011 18:56
                    To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [aprsisce] Re: APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile

                     

                     

                    *eyes glaze over*

                    I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current level of understanding...

                    SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with APRS data give?

                    Adam
                    KC2ANT (unedumacated idiot in training)

                    --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "gsdatplace" <garrett@...> wrote:

                    >
                    > With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I
                    think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite possible)
                    >
                    > 1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to
                    keep things the same as James...)
                    >
                    > 2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it
                    and its trace logs shot the connection:
                    > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
                    > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
                    > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16
                    from 127.0.0.1:57128
                    >
                    > 3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as
                    everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".
                    >
                    > But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks
                    like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:
                    >
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                    >
                    > I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...
                    >
                    > The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via
                    IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets appear on the local server port...
                    >
                    > am I doing something wrong Lynn
                    or am I asking you for another feature? ;)
                    >
                    > Garrett
                    > VE6RKY
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com,
                    "Steve Daniels" <steve@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
                    > >
                    > > The installer on that link is a big help,
                    > >
                    > > Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to
                    aprsis
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile
                    use are free
                    > >
                    > > http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Steve
                    > >
                    > > G6UIM
                    > >
                    > > _____
                    > >
                    > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                    > > Of Steve Daniels
                    > > Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
                    > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Good work there James.
                    > >
                    > > Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in
                    the US
                    > > or Canada
                    > >
                    > > If anyone finds good Data for the
                    w:st="on">UK please let me know
                    > >
                    > > Also the OSM option is good
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Steve
                    > >
                    > > G6UIM
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > _____
                    > >
                    > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                    > > Of James Ewen
                    > > Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
                    > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to
                    RadioMobile.
                    > >
                    > > Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
                    > >
                    > > Configure|Ports|New Port
                    > >
                    > > Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
                    > >
                    > > Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
                    > > desired port number... I picked 14439.
                    > >
                    > > Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
                    > >
                    > > Start up RadioMobile.
                    > >
                    > > Go to the APRS setup under
                    > >
                    > > Options|APRS
                    > >
                    > > Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same
                    port
                    > > number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
                    > > push your APRS data into, and click apply.
                    > >
                    > > You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
                    > >
                    > > If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
                    > > also see the stations on the map.
                    > >
                    > > If you don't have a map up, click
                    > >
                    > > Edit|Fit Map to Units
                    > >
                    > > You can also click
                    > >
                    > > Edit|Merge Pictures
                    > >
                    > > and pick a map to stick in the background.
                    > >
                    > > James
                    > > VE6SRV
                    > >
                    >

                  • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                    An APRS-IS connection of any sort defaults to sending NO packets until you supply a filter to tell it what you want. So, after telnetting to the server port,
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                      An APRS-IS connection of any sort defaults to sending NO packets until
                      you supply a filter to tell it what you want. So, after telnetting to
                      the server port, you need to send a logon string followed by, or
                      including, a filter spec. I use the following in my testing.

                      telnet 127.0.0.1 <serverport>
                      user <callsign>-TS pass -1
                      #filter b/<callsign>*

                      (of course, put your serverport and callsign in place of <serverport>
                      and <callsign>)

                      Then if you hit transmit on one of your other instances (or even the
                      same instance) you should see the position packet.

                      Just don't try any "Me"-relative filters unless you're ready to craft a
                      position packet for <callsign>-TS.

                      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                      PS. Reset easy Adam, this is not an "Intro to APRS", but more like
                      Intermediate APRS. Just like most everything in Amateur Radio, there's
                      always places to learn more, and hopefully, eventually, the APRSISCE/32
                      Wiki will become a good guide to the various levels of features of the
                      client.

                      On 4/11/2011 1:33 PM, gsdatplace wrote:
                      > With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite possible)
                      >
                      > 1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to keep things the same as James...)
                      >
                      > 2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it and its trace logs shot the connection:
                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:57128
                      >
                      > 3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".
                      >
                      > But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:
                      >
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                      >
                      > I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...
                      >
                      > The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets appear on the local server port...
                      >
                      > am I doing something wrong Lynn or am I asking you for another feature? ;)
                      >
                      > Garrett
                      > VE6RKY
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Daniels"<steve@...> wrote:
                      >> http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
                      >>
                      >> The installer on that link is a big help,
                      >>
                      >> Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free
                      >>
                      >> http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Steve
                      >>
                      >> G6UIM
                      >>
                      >> _____
                      >>
                      >> From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                      >> Of Steve Daniels
                      >> Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
                      >> To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                      >> Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Good work there James.
                      >>
                      >> Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the US
                      >> or Canada
                      >>
                      >> If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know
                      >>
                      >> Also the OSM option is good
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Steve
                      >>
                      >> G6UIM
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> _____
                      >>
                      >> From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                      >> Of James Ewen
                      >> Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
                      >> To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                      >> Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to RadioMobile.
                      >>
                      >> Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
                      >>
                      >> Configure|Ports|New Port
                      >>
                      >> Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
                      >>
                      >> Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
                      >> desired port number... I picked 14439.
                      >>
                      >> Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
                      >>
                      >> Start up RadioMobile.
                      >>
                      >> Go to the APRS setup under
                      >>
                      >> Options|APRS
                      >>
                      >> Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
                      >> number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
                      >> push your APRS data into, and click apply.
                      >>
                      >> You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
                      >>
                      >> If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
                      >> also see the stations on the map.
                      >>
                      >> If you don't have a map up, click
                      >>
                      >> Edit|Fit Map to Units
                      >>
                      >> You can also click
                      >>
                      >> Edit|Merge Pictures
                      >>
                      >> and pick a map to stick in the background.
                      >>
                      >> James
                      >> VE6SRV
                      >>
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ------------------------------------
                      >
                      > Yahoo! Groups Links
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                    • g4ilo
                      Um, I think the only benefit is that if the stations you are interested in (repeaters, fixed stations, mobiles etc.) are on APRS then you can get their
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                        Um, I think the only benefit is that if the stations you are interested in (repeaters, fixed stations, mobiles etc.) are on APRS then you can get their positions directly instead of having to enter them manually. Then you can investigate the paths between them. That's what I described here http://blog.g4ilo.com/2011/04/getting-plot.html where you can see I looked at the path between my station and a mountaintop WOTA activator who popped up. If you have someone driving around you can see how actual propagation matches the predicted coverage.

                        Julian, G4ILO

                        --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "apenadragon" <kc2ant@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > *eyes glaze over*
                        >
                        > I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current level of understanding...
                        >
                        > SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with APRS data give?
                        >
                      • apenadragon
                        Sounds interesting. I downloaded some stuff, but it looks like a bit more than I have time to get into right now. Good luck. Adam KC2ANT
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                          Sounds interesting. I downloaded some stuff, but it looks like a bit more than I have time to get into right now.

                          Good luck.
                          Adam
                          KC2ANT

                          --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Daniels" <steve@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > The APRS Station positions show in radio mobile, you can then plot to see if
                          > they are line of site or not and other various things.
                          >
                          > There is an installer program that does a lot of the setup an makes it much
                          > easier to get going.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Steve
                          >
                          > G6UIM
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > _____
                          >
                          > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                          > Of apenadragon
                          > Sent: 11 April 2011 18:56
                          > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                          > Subject: [aprsisce] Re: APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > *eyes glaze over*
                          >
                          > I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current
                          > level of understanding...
                          >
                          > SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with
                          > APRS data give?
                          >
                          > Adam
                          > KC2ANT (unedumacated idiot in training)
                          >
                          > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ,
                          > "gsdatplace" <garrett@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > With regards to APRSISCE/32 feeding data out the local server port, I
                          > think I must be doing something here wrong (which is very possible) or its
                          > working as designed and I'm expecting a different outcome... (again quite
                          > possible)
                          > >
                          > > 1. I've setup a new local server port on 127.0.0.1, port 14439 (just to
                          > keep things the same as James...)
                          > >
                          > > 2. The port is enabled, and appears to be working, I can telnet into it
                          > and its trace logs shot the connection:
                          > > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.279 Binding(127.0.0.1) or 127.0.0.1:14439
                          > > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:25:43.280 Bound(127.0.0.1)=>127.0.0.1:14439
                          > > Local Server:2011-04-11T17:26:00.877 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16
                          > from 127.0.0.1:57128
                          > >
                          > > 3. the port options have RF to IS and IS to RF enabled, as well as
                          > everything else enabled, other than "me not 3rd".
                          > >
                          > > But, all I get from it via telnet or the other applications is what looks
                          > like a keep alive or information update every 20 seconds:
                          > >
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:26:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:27:40 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:00 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > > # APRSIS32 2011/04/10 22:55 2011-04-11 17:28:20 GMT VE6RKY-12
                          > >
                          > > I'm not seeing any data passed through it which is coming into APRSISCE...
                          > >
                          > > The only thing I can think of is that since the packets are coming in via
                          > IS, is it that there is no IS to IS gating available? Unfortunately I don't
                          > have a radio handy to plug in and test to see if locally heard packets
                          > appear on the local server port...
                          > >
                          > > am I doing something wrong Lynn or am I asking you for another feature? ;)
                          > >
                          > > Garrett
                          > > VE6RKY
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ,
                          > "Steve Daniels" <steve@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > http://www.g3tvu.co.uk/Radio_Mobile.htm
                          > > >
                          > > > The installer on that link is a big help,
                          > > >
                          > > > Obviously you still need to follow James guide on how to link to aprsis
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > The underlying algorithms that Radio Mobile use are free
                          > > >
                          > > > http://flattop.its.bldrdoc.gov/itm.html
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Steve
                          > > >
                          > > > G6UIM
                          > > >
                          > > > _____
                          > > >
                          > > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
                          > Behalf
                          > > > Of Steve Daniels
                          > > > Sent: 01 April 2011 21:09
                          > > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Good work there James.
                          > > >
                          > > > Seems it's a lot easier to get decent elevation data if you live in the
                          > US
                          > > > or Canada
                          > > >
                          > > > If anyone finds good Data for the UK please let me know
                          > > >
                          > > > Also the OSM option is good
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Steve
                          > > >
                          > > > G6UIM
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > _____
                          > > >
                          > > > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
                          > Behalf
                          > > > Of James Ewen
                          > > > Sent: 01 April 2011 20:40
                          > > > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com <mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > Subject: [aprsisce] APRSISCE/32 server feeding RadioMobile
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Here's a quick rundown of feeding APRS data from APRSISCE/32 to
                          > RadioMobile.
                          > > >
                          > > > Setup a server port on APRSISCE/32
                          > > >
                          > > > Configure|Ports|New Port
                          > > >
                          > > > Select IS-Server as the type, and give it a name.
                          > > >
                          > > > Set the IP to 127.0.0.1, the local loopback address. Choose the
                          > > > desired port number... I picked 14439.
                          > > >
                          > > > Under Enable|Ports, make sure your new IS-Port is checked.
                          > > >
                          > > > Start up RadioMobile.
                          > > >
                          > > > Go to the APRS setup under
                          > > >
                          > > > Options|APRS
                          > > >
                          > > > Set the APRS Server IP to 127.0.0.1, and set the port to the same port
                          > > > number you used above. Check APRS Enabled. Select the first unit to
                          > > > push your APRS data into, and click apply.
                          > > >
                          > > > You should start seeing APRS stations appear in the left panel.
                          > > >
                          > > > If you close that window, and have a map up in the right area, you'll
                          > > > also see the stations on the map.
                          > > >
                          > > > If you don't have a map up, click
                          > > >
                          > > > Edit|Fit Map to Units
                          > > >
                          > > > You can also click
                          > > >
                          > > > Edit|Merge Pictures
                          > > >
                          > > > and pick a map to stick in the background.
                          > > >
                          > > > James
                          > > > VE6SRV
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • apenadragon
                          Sounds like it d be handy in DF situations too.... just sayin. Adam KC2ANT
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                            Sounds like it'd be handy in DF situations too.... just sayin.

                            Adam
                            KC2ANT

                            --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "g4ilo" <julian.g4ilo@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Um, I think the only benefit is that if the stations you are interested in (repeaters, fixed stations, mobiles etc.) are on APRS then you can get their positions directly instead of having to enter them manually. Then you can investigate the paths between them. That's what I described here http://blog.g4ilo.com/2011/04/getting-plot.html where you can see I looked at the path between my station and a mountaintop WOTA activator who popped up. If you have someone driving around you can see how actual propagation matches the predicted coverage.
                            >
                            > Julian, G4ILO
                            >
                            > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "apenadragon" <kc2ant@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > *eyes glaze over*
                            > >
                            > > I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current level of understanding...
                            > >
                            > > SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with APRS data give?
                            > >
                            >
                          • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                            For the benefit of the group, the question is Are you a trustee for the lighthouse? . Please reply directly to KJ4ERJ@arrl.net and I ll be able to help you
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                              For the benefit of the group, the question is "Are you a trustee for the
                              lighthouse?".

                              Please reply directly to KJ4ERJ@... and I'll be able to help you out.

                              Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                              On 4/11/2011 2:21 PM, daveocn wrote:
                              > May I have a password for call sign GB1PBL please ?
                              >
                              > Thank you,
                              >
                              > Dave G1OCN.
                            • daveocn
                              No, Trinity House Lighthouse Service is. GB1PBL is a permanent special event call sign and has been for several years. I hold the Notice Of Variation for the
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                                No, Trinity House Lighthouse Service is.

                                GB1PBL is a permanent special event call sign and has been
                                for several years.

                                I hold the Notice Of Variation for the call sign.

                                I have been working at the lighthouse for 10 years.

                                Further information on qrz.com.

                                I thank you,

                                Dave G1OCN

                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...>
                                To: <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:32 PM
                                Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Password please ?


                                > For the benefit of the group, the question is "Are you a trustee for the
                                > lighthouse?".
                                >
                                > Please reply directly to KJ4ERJ@... and I'll be able to help you out.
                                >
                                > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                >
                                > On 4/11/2011 2:21 PM, daveocn wrote:
                                >> May I have a password for call sign GB1PBL please ?
                                >>
                                >> Thank you,
                                >>
                                >> Dave G1OCN.
                                >
                                >
                              • apenadragon
                                Thanks Lynn, I think if I had the time to digest this stuff I d be ok with it, but at a quick read, it s a bit much, just have too much on my plate at the
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                                  Thanks Lynn,

                                  I think if I had the time to digest this stuff I'd be ok with it, but at a quick read, it's a bit much, just have too much on my plate at the moment. may take another stab at it at another time though. As I get more involved with repeaters and larger systems this could be a very handy tool, especially if it can be linked with a GPS and APRS.

                                  Adam
                                  KC2ANT


                                  > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                  >
                                  > PS. Reset easy Adam, this is not an "Intro to APRS", but more like
                                  > Intermediate APRS. Just like most everything in Amateur Radio, there's
                                  > always places to learn more, and hopefully, eventually, the APRSISCE/32
                                  > Wiki will become a good guide to the various levels of features of the
                                  > client.
                                • gsdatplace
                                  Time for me to go crawling back into my little hole over here and hang my head... Its not RadioMobile I m interested in getting data into in this case, just
                                  Message 16 of 21 , Apr 11 12:00 PM
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                                    Time for me to go crawling back into my little hole over here and hang my head...

                                    Its not RadioMobile I'm interested in getting data into in this case, just saw the thread seemed most applicable to my question.

                                    Specifically I've been trying to get Balloon Track connected to APRSISCE so it can get all the telemetry data received for our balloon launches and payload tracking and flight prediction.

                                    I've got it going (somewhat) now, and yes, I was logging into telnet and sending the auth commands, specifically:
                                    user VE6RKY pass -1 filter default
                                    thinking I didn't want a filter since what I thought I read was that the local server was the filtered input into aprsisce, until after re-reading a couple of times I realized filtering was needed on both sides and started using:
                                    user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw

                                    Thats when I started to see data flowing. Even though I had entered my call, even entered my valid passcode balloon track wouldn't connect no matter what I did. That's when I started seeing in the IS logs that when I telnet'd in I'd get:
                                    Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.405 Server:user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw
                                    Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 Processing(user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)
                                    Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 [0] VE6RKY NOT Verified Filter(t/poimqstunw) (user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)

                                    but balloon track only ever got:
                                    Local Server:2011-04-11T18:39:27.559 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:51668

                                    Which pointed me to a authentication issue. Even though its set to authenticate and send callsign/passcode & filter data its not sending it, so aprsisce wasn't talking to it. Apparently ui-view didn't care about having a user authenticate so I didn't think there was anything wrong until trying a local feed with APRSISCE. When I manually pasted the user auth info into its message window and sent it as a message aprsisce showed the user connection and has started working now.

                                    Thanks again Lynn and sorry to be a bother lol, now to go start playing with all the other new features you've added since I was last playing with aprsisce hehe.

                                    Garrett
                                    VE6RKY



                                    --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > An APRS-IS connection of any sort defaults to sending NO packets until
                                    > you supply a filter to tell it what you want. So, after telnetting to
                                    > the server port, you need to send a logon string followed by, or
                                    > including, a filter spec. I use the following in my testing.
                                    >
                                    > telnet 127.0.0.1 <serverport>
                                    > user <callsign>-TS pass -1
                                    > #filter b/<callsign>*
                                    >
                                    > (of course, put your serverport and callsign in place of <serverport>
                                    > and <callsign>)
                                    >
                                    > Then if you hit transmit on one of your other instances (or even the
                                    > same instance) you should see the position packet.
                                    >
                                    > Just don't try any "Me"-relative filters unless you're ready to craft a
                                    > position packet for <callsign>-TS.
                                    >
                                    > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                    >
                                    > PS. Reset easy Adam, this is not an "Intro to APRS", but more like
                                    > Intermediate APRS. Just like most everything in Amateur Radio, there's
                                    > always places to learn more, and hopefully, eventually, the APRSISCE/32
                                    > Wiki will become a good guide to the various levels of features of the
                                    > client.
                                    >
                                  • gsdatplace
                                    Just as a additional note in case anyone else ever tries to get Balloon Track working with a local aprsisce server... The programmer of Balloon Tack was too
                                    Message 17 of 21 , Apr 11 12:23 PM
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                                      Just as a additional note in case anyone else ever tries to get Balloon Track working with a local aprsisce server...

                                      The programmer of Balloon Tack was too smart, after some more testing balloon track will only send username, passcode and filter information if the local server is configured to use port 14580...

                                      Changing APRSISCE's local server to 127.0.0.1:14580 and setting the filter value in balloon track to t/poimqstunw has it connecting and working properly now...

                                      programmers... I tell ya... ;)

                                      Garrett
                                      VE6RKY



                                      --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "gsdatplace" <garrett@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Time for me to go crawling back into my little hole over here and hang my head...
                                      >
                                      > Its not RadioMobile I'm interested in getting data into in this case, just saw the thread seemed most applicable to my question.
                                      >
                                      > Specifically I've been trying to get Balloon Track connected to APRSISCE so it can get all the telemetry data received for our balloon launches and payload tracking and flight prediction.
                                      >
                                      > I've got it going (somewhat) now, and yes, I was logging into telnet and sending the auth commands, specifically:
                                      > user VE6RKY pass -1 filter default
                                      > thinking I didn't want a filter since what I thought I read was that the local server was the filtered input into aprsisce, until after re-reading a couple of times I realized filtering was needed on both sides and started using:
                                      > user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw
                                      >
                                      > Thats when I started to see data flowing. Even though I had entered my call, even entered my valid passcode balloon track wouldn't connect no matter what I did. That's when I started seeing in the IS logs that when I telnet'd in I'd get:
                                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.405 Server:user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw
                                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 Processing(user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)
                                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 [0] VE6RKY NOT Verified Filter(t/poimqstunw) (user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)
                                      >
                                      > but balloon track only ever got:
                                      > Local Server:2011-04-11T18:39:27.559 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:51668
                                      >
                                      > Which pointed me to a authentication issue. Even though its set to authenticate and send callsign/passcode & filter data its not sending it, so aprsisce wasn't talking to it. Apparently ui-view didn't care about having a user authenticate so I didn't think there was anything wrong until trying a local feed with APRSISCE. When I manually pasted the user auth info into its message window and sent it as a message aprsisce showed the user connection and has started working now.
                                      >
                                      > Thanks again Lynn and sorry to be a bother lol, now to go start playing with all the other new features you've added since I was last playing with aprsisce hehe.
                                      >
                                      > Garrett
                                      > VE6RKY
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > An APRS-IS connection of any sort defaults to sending NO packets until
                                      > > you supply a filter to tell it what you want. So, after telnetting to
                                      > > the server port, you need to send a logon string followed by, or
                                      > > including, a filter spec. I use the following in my testing.
                                      > >
                                      > > telnet 127.0.0.1 <serverport>
                                      > > user <callsign>-TS pass -1
                                      > > #filter b/<callsign>*
                                      > >
                                      > > (of course, put your serverport and callsign in place of <serverport>
                                      > > and <callsign>)
                                      > >
                                      > > Then if you hit transmit on one of your other instances (or even the
                                      > > same instance) you should see the position packet.
                                      > >
                                      > > Just don't try any "Me"-relative filters unless you're ready to craft a
                                      > > position packet for <callsign>-TS.
                                      > >
                                      > > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                      > >
                                      > > PS. Reset easy Adam, this is not an "Intro to APRS", but more like
                                      > > Intermediate APRS. Just like most everything in Amateur Radio, there's
                                      > > always places to learn more, and hopefully, eventually, the APRSISCE/32
                                      > > Wiki will become a good guide to the various levels of features of the
                                      > > client.
                                      > >
                                      >
                                    • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                                      The local server port in APRSISCE/32 is provided to decrease the impact to the APRS-IS infrastructure for those of use that run multiple concurrent instances.
                                      Message 18 of 21 , Apr 11 6:40 PM
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                                        The local server port in APRSISCE/32 is provided to decrease the impact
                                        to the APRS-IS infrastructure for those of use that run multiple
                                        concurrent instances. We can connect one instance (preferrably the one
                                        with the widest viewing filters) to an external APRS-IS server and set
                                        up other local instances to point to that instance's local server port.
                                        The downstream instances can only further filter the original feed right
                                        now, but eventually the server port will be merging filters to the
                                        upstream server for increased flexibility.

                                        For anyone running a single instance at a time, you can safely (and
                                        rightly) ignore the local server port configuration.

                                        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                                        On 4/11/2011 1:55 PM, apenadragon wrote:
                                        > *eyes glaze over*
                                        >
                                        > I see where this is a useful tool, but I'm thinking it's beyond my current level of understanding...
                                        >
                                        > SO, here comes the stupid question, what benifit does connecting this with APRS data give?
                                        >
                                        > Adam
                                        > KC2ANT (unedumacated idiot in training)
                                      • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                                        That s just plain dump, IMHO. Even though 14580 is the default filtered port, any server can run any port by number and support a filtered feed from it. But a
                                        Message 19 of 21 , Apr 11 6:53 PM
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                                          That's just plain dump, IMHO. Even though 14580 is the default filtered
                                          port, any server can run any port by number and support a filtered feed
                                          from it.

                                          But a good solution, and worth mentioning when I finally get around to
                                          documenting the local server port support. If you don't see it then,
                                          ping me to add it as an "oh, and by the way...".

                                          Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                                          On 4/11/2011 3:23 PM, gsdatplace wrote:
                                          > Just as a additional note in case anyone else ever tries to get Balloon Track working with a local aprsisce server...
                                          >
                                          > The programmer of Balloon Tack was too smart, after some more testing balloon track will only send username, passcode and filter information if the local server is configured to use port 14580...
                                          >
                                          > Changing APRSISCE's local server to 127.0.0.1:14580 and setting the filter value in balloon track to t/poimqstunw has it connecting and working properly now...
                                          >
                                          > programmers... I tell ya... ;)
                                          >
                                          > Garrett
                                          > VE6RKY
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "gsdatplace"<garrett@...> wrote:
                                          >> Time for me to go crawling back into my little hole over here and hang my head...
                                          >>
                                          >> Its not RadioMobile I'm interested in getting data into in this case, just saw the thread seemed most applicable to my question.
                                          >>
                                          >> Specifically I've been trying to get Balloon Track connected to APRSISCE so it can get all the telemetry data received for our balloon launches and payload tracking and flight prediction.
                                          >>
                                          >> I've got it going (somewhat) now, and yes, I was logging into telnet and sending the auth commands, specifically:
                                          >> user VE6RKY pass -1 filter default
                                          >> thinking I didn't want a filter since what I thought I read was that the local server was the filtered input into aprsisce, until after re-reading a couple of times I realized filtering was needed on both sides and started using:
                                          >> user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw
                                          >>
                                          >> Thats when I started to see data flowing. Even though I had entered my call, even entered my valid passcode balloon track wouldn't connect no matter what I did. That's when I started seeing in the IS logs that when I telnet'd in I'd get:
                                          >> Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.405 Server:user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw
                                          >> Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 Processing(user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)
                                          >> Local Server:2011-04-11T18:40:16.406 [0] VE6RKY NOT Verified Filter(t/poimqstunw) (user VE6RKY pass -1 filter t/poimqstunw)
                                          >>
                                          >> but balloon track only ever got:
                                          >> Local Server:2011-04-11T18:39:27.559 TCP-Listener accepted connection 0/16 from 127.0.0.1:51668
                                          >>
                                          >> Which pointed me to a authentication issue. Even though its set to authenticate and send callsign/passcode& filter data its not sending it, so aprsisce wasn't talking to it. Apparently ui-view didn't care about having a user authenticate so I didn't think there was anything wrong until trying a local feed with APRSISCE. When I manually pasted the user auth info into its message window and sent it as a message aprsisce showed the user connection and has started working now.
                                          >>
                                          >> Thanks again Lynn and sorry to be a bother lol, now to go start playing with all the other new features you've added since I was last playing with aprsisce hehe.
                                          >>
                                          >> Garrett
                                          >> VE6RKY
                                          >>
                                          >>
                                          >>
                                          >> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)"<kj4erj@> wrote:
                                          >>> An APRS-IS connection of any sort defaults to sending NO packets until
                                          >>> you supply a filter to tell it what you want. So, after telnetting to
                                          >>> the server port, you need to send a logon string followed by, or
                                          >>> including, a filter spec. I use the following in my testing.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> telnet 127.0.0.1<serverport>
                                          >>> user<callsign>-TS pass -1
                                          >>> #filter b/<callsign>*
                                          >>>
                                          >>> (of course, put your serverport and callsign in place of<serverport>
                                          >>> and<callsign>)
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Then if you hit transmit on one of your other instances (or even the
                                          >>> same instance) you should see the position packet.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Just don't try any "Me"-relative filters unless you're ready to craft a
                                          >>> position packet for<callsign>-TS.
                                          >>>
                                          >>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                          >>>
                                          >>> PS. Reset easy Adam, this is not an "Intro to APRS", but more like
                                          >>> Intermediate APRS. Just like most everything in Amateur Radio, there's
                                          >>> always places to learn more, and hopefully, eventually, the APRSISCE/32
                                          >>> Wiki will become a good guide to the various levels of features of the
                                          >>> client.
                                          >>>
                                        • tb5bka
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                                          • Steve Daniels
                                            Passcode requests need to be sent to aprsisce-owner@yahoogroups.com with your name and callsign Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle
                                            Message 21 of 21 , Jan 12, 2013
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                                              Passcode requests need to be sent to aprsisce-owner@yahoogroups.com with your name and callsign

                                               

                                              Steve Daniels

                                              Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

                                              Torbay Freecycle  Owner

                                              http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

                                              APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

                                               


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