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Re: [aprsisce] Shapes / ShowMe! (Dev 2011/02/01 00:44)

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  • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
    ... As long as you have LCH configured as an NWS office and it is active, you should receive any alerts issued by that office regardless of your range. In my
    Message 1 of 50 , Feb 1, 2011
      On 2/1/2011 10:57 AM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
      Since this is my first experience and it is with LCH, does my range have to be large enough to include that area or should it paint the map anyway? I suspect I am missing a setting at this point.

      As long as you have LCH configured as an NWS office and it is active, you should receive any alerts issued by that office regardless of your range.  In my test instance, I'm using a 0 Range with *ALL* and picking up alerts for all of Australia (and even had the ones in TX/LA just now!).

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


      From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
      Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:46
      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Shapes / ShowMe! (Dev 2011/02/01 00:44)


      The ShowMe is only a test to see what areas the center point is involved with.  If you have CAE enabled, then any alert from that CWA will light up on your map, regardless of what ShowMe shows or where your map is centered when the alerts come in.

      In addition, if you have Configure / NWS / Popup MultiTrack enabled in some form, you'll get a MultiTrack window for EACH area that is specified in the alert.  This may change in some future revision depending on how many areas I see lighting up on any given alert.  However, to merge them into a single MultiTrack popup will require an underlying change to my approach of exploding areas within an alert....

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

      On 2/1/2011 9:53 AM, Tom wrote:

      Thanks again Lynn.   The CAE NWS station covers all the area I need since it covers 18 counties around me.  The counties to the immediate west as well as north and south and east are all covered by CAE.  I thought that the show me would display all areas covered by CAE since I have it marked as active.
      So when an alert is issued which in my case is almost always for multiple counties the only area that will be highlighted is the one centered on my map and will not show the other counties involved in the alert?
      On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:


      The ShowMe function is simply that, Show Me the areas involved at the point that is centered in the main window.  If you want to see what areas are involved to the west of you, pan the map a little in that direction to center somewhere west of you and do the ShowMe function again.  That will tell you what the areas are at that point.

      The ShowMe has nothing to do with what areas/alerts you will receive.  That is only governed by the NWS Offices (CWAs) that you have configured and active.  So, if just west of you is a different office's responsibility, you'll need to configure both offices and make them active.  In my case, I have all of the offices for Florida that are listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Weather_Service_Weather_Forecast_Offices which happens to be the same offices as shown for FL at http://www.aprs-is.net/WX/NWSCodes.aspx.

      I really don't think you'd want me to pop up all of the areas for your current screen because that could theoretically be the entire planet if you happen to execute the function when totally zoomed out.  So, I chose to make it the single point at the center of the screen to make the data set relevant and reproducible.

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

      On 2/1/2011 8:44 AM, Tom wrote:
      Thanks Lynn.  In this case it was centered on my QTH but the area delineated show nothing much to the west of me.  I live in northeast Columbia.  The current shape basically cuts the city of Columbia in half and nothing to the immediate west of me shows up even though it is probably less than 10 miles away and still within Columbia.  I has assumed that it would show the areas that were visible in the viewing window.  Maybe it is an anomoly because Columbia lies in two different counties and it is only showing the county where my QTH is but I would certainly like to be able to see something that is within 10 miles of my house.

      On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:

      Can you tell me what station you had centered or the exact coordinate where you did the ShowMe?

      This feature does NOT show all of the areas for which an office (like CAE) is responsible.  It shows only those areas that the specific center point of the main screen is contained within as defined by the bounding min/max rectangle of the shapes involved.

      So, if CAE is responsible for other smaller areas whose bounding rectangle doesn't encompass the screen center point, you won't see those areas.  The feature is intended to tell you what areas / offices your station may be covered by, not to show all of the areas a particular station is responsible for.  The latter would, I'm thinking, be WAY too many to reasonably show... But if you see a need, I can probably add such a thing...

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

      On 2/1/2011 6:07 AM, Tom wrote:
      I was checking out the show me feature.  I am in Columbia, South Carolina.  The NWS area is CAE.  When I use showme for some reason it is onlyshowing on the middle portion of the coverage area (maybe only Richland County).  There are18 counties covered by CAE.  I have c_15jl09.shp, mz01jn10.shp, and z_01de10.shp loaded. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

  • Mike (WM4B)
    I think I already asked them all, Jeff! Lynn has the patience of a saint. 73, Mike WM4B From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On
    Message 50 of 50 , Feb 1, 2011
      I think I already asked them all, Jeff!

      Lynn has the patience of a saint.



      From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      Of Jeff KB2M
      Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:56 PM
      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Development version (was: Shapes / ShowMe! ...)

      Thanks Lynn. Up and running on development ver here, shape files are working
      correctly. I will find the time to read all recent posts before asking any
      stupid questions :>)

      73 Jeff kb2m

      -----Original Message-----
      From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      Of Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
      Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 20:01 PM
      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [aprsisce] Development version (was: Shapes / ShowMe! ...)

      See http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/development-version but please be aware
      that running the bleeding edge is sometimes dangerous. I've been known
      to break things so that it won't even run, but usually I get a fixed
      version out shortly thereafter.

      Also, please plan on keeping up with the postings in this group,
      especially before accepting a new version from About.

      If you're not comfortable renaming files and editing XML files, then
      running the development is probably not a good idea.

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

      On 2/1/2011 6:40 PM, Jeff KB2M wrote:
      > I'm not really interested in playing with the 'shape files' but I would
      > to keep my copy of APRSIS32 current. Where can I find this latest version?
      > tried the about version update, but the latest I can update to is dated
      > 1/27/11.
      > 73 Jeff kb2m
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      > Of Fred Hillhouse
      > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:08 AM
      > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: Shapes / ShowMe! (Dev 2011/02/01 00:44)
      > "Show Me" shuts down APSRISI32. When I restart it, the ALL is checked.
      > Best regards,
      > Fred
      > ________________________________
      > From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      > Of n1naz
      > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 06:38
      > To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Shapes / ShowMe! (Dev 2011/02/01 00:44)
      > Also be aware that if you do a "show me", the NWS/All gets checked, be
      > to un-check when your done(if you want to).
      > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com<mailto:aprsisce%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      > W Deffenbaugh (Mr)"<kj4erj@...> wrote:
      >> Ok, so I went and did it. Here's another Development release with lots
      >> of NWS and Shapefile stuff to play with. You can read the details
      >> below, but personally I think the Configure / NWS Shapes / ShowMe is the
      >> coolest one. If you have shapefiles loaded, then center the main map
      >> somewhere and hit that menu option. Not only will one or more
      >> MultiTrack windows open for each shape that might involve the screen
      >> center point, but they'll also auto-zoom to show the entire shape! And
      >> the shapes come with nice bold borders now too.
      >> Don't be surprise, however, to see the shapes go pale gray in a short
      >> time. That's when my internally-generated object hits its expiration
      >> time and goes to a Killed status. If it's not still centered somewhere,
      >> the entire object will disappear. But it will remain in gray in the
      >> popup that had it until you either close that MultiTrack or start
      >> following some other station.
      >> This same auto-zoom feature is now the default behavior for Configure /
      >> NWS / Popup MultiTrack windows as well. And you can now choose what
      >> pops up based on Always, Only New and suppress any that don't include a
      >> defined area (shape or multiline). You can also now suppress
      >> notifications (message or MultiTrack) at the NWS Product level in
      >> Configure / NWS / Notify Products. In that menu you also get a sneak
      >> peek at the symbol used for the product as well as the "line code" which
      >> currently sets the color and line style as described at
      >> http://www.aprs-is.net/WX/MultilineProtocol.aspx.
      >> Don't panic if the filled areas disappear when you pan the map. This is
      >> by design and brings panning performance back to where I'm comfortable
      >> with it. As soon as you stop panning (release the mouse button), the
      >> shapes will reappear.
      >> There's some other stuff below, some of which is protecting the program
      >> from people that down-grade (go back to earlier versions) which can
      >> introduce issues due to automatic XML format upgrades. This release
      >> does LOTS of that, but it now also automatically saves the previous
      >> version .XML file similar to how the About updater saves the previous
      > .EXE.
      >> Let me know if you find any bugs in this pretty quickly as I'd like to
      >> get it committed and out to the General Release because of the filter
      >> bug that is fixed within it. Besides, the Release Notes is already
      >> quite substantial in such a short time.
      >> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
      >> Define APDUxx as U2APRS for Android
      >> (http://aobajoke.no-ip.org/~ja7ude/japanese/u2aprs10/indexe.html)
      >> Mark NWS objects Killed rather than simply purging them away on
      > expiration.
      >> Correct bust that allowed followed killed objects to disappear rather
      >> substantially fade until they're no longer needed.
      >> Shaped areas that are killed but centered in a MultiTrack will turn
      >> light gray until they're not centered anymore. If you look at the
      >> station info popup, it will say "KILLED OBJECT".
      >> NWS shapes are now included in Station popup menu
      >> Corrected black on black station in scrolling station logs when NWS
      >> alerts are processed. (Recursion is such an ugly word, especially when
      >> it's unexpected)
      >> If too many MultiTracks are open when an NWS alert is received and
      >> Configure / NWS / Popup MultiTrack is checked, it just quietly ignores
      >> the problem. It used to complain for every one generating LOTS of
      >> message boxes overnight.
      >> When manually panning a window, remove the multiline objects to
      >> (dramatically) improve pan responsiveness. Area fills will re-appear
      >> when the pan operation is complete (ie. when you release the mouse
      > button).
      >> Fixed Configure / Ports / APRS-IS to actually use the Enable, QuietTime,
      >> Callsign and Comment (even though the latter two are non-changeable)
      >> Change station info popup relative distance/bearing to FromCtr and
      >> FromME instead of opposite (Julian G4ILO)
      >> Add outline to the shapes so that I can see if some of them are actually
      >> TOO transparent. Please let me know the object ID if you see one like
      >> that, particularly Australia's Flood areas.
      >> Configure / NWS Shapes / ShowMe will popup individual shapes that
      >> include, or are near, the screen center of the main window when the menu
      >> option is selected.
      >> Replace Track(ObjectID) with the description of the shape for test
      >> shapes and better describe shape-expanded NWS objects.
      >> Title of windows "following" an NWS object (like the tests and
      >> auto-popups from Configure / NWS / Popup MultiTrack) are more
      >> Configure / NWS Shapes now supports unchecking individual files. I need
      >> to add a prompt to ask if you're only disabling or would like to remove
      >> the file from the list.
      >> Whenever a version change is detected, the pre-upgraded XML files is
      >> saved as .XML.yyyymmddhhmm where yyyymmddhhmm is the previous version
      >> string that should match a saved .EXE.yyyymmddhhmm.
      >> If the program detects a version downgrade, it will warn you that some
      >> settings may be lost. This is due to the non-downgrade-compatible XML
      >> configuration upgrades that may have occurred. Proceed at your own risk.
      >> Corrected bust in shape optimizer that was causing not all of the
      >> "rings" to draw. This was particularly evident in QLC111. You should
      >> see lots more detail in AUS shapes now.
      >> Don't pop up an already-expired NWS object. WXSVR-AU does LOTS of these
      >> for some reason. I'm not sure how long they keep transmitting the
      >> NWS-CANCLs.
      >> Force a filter of m/0 if no other filter is required (Julian G4ILO)
      >> (Adam KB8VOM)
      >> Configure / NWS / Popup MultiTrack now has Always and New options.
      >> "Always" will create or focus MultiTracks for NWS objects. "New" will
      >> only do this for a newly created object.
      >> Support suppressing NWS Popups unless they describe an Area (multiline
      >> or shapefile). This avoids consuming a bunch of redundant MultiTracks
      >> for single point objects.
      >> New (possibly temporary) Packets(Internal) trace log as well as INT (vs
      >> RF or IS) flagging in both the Transmit and Packets logs. This will
      >> make identification of internally-generated packets a bit easier, in
      >> case I ever need to know such a distinction.
      >> Transmit when "T" is pressed on the keyboard (assuming the main map
      >> window is focused, otherwise Windows won't tell me you even hit a key).
      >> (Alan N6VUD)
      >> New Configure / NWS / Notify Products to individually disable the
      >> various known NWS Products (http://www.aprs-is.net/WX/ProdCodes.aspx and
      >> http://wxsvr.aprs.net.au/products.php) from triggering message
      >> notifications and MultiTrack popups. Eventually you'll be able to
      >> configure more stuff on each Product than just the enable like color,
      >> line style, symbol, -IS to RF IGate...
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