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  • w4ant
    I apologize up front. I m just trying to get this all set up. FT-2800M from my home QTH TinyTrak 4 PC running XP I ve got APRSIS32 running and managed to get
    Message 1 of 91 , Aug 17, 2014

      I apologize up front. I'm just trying to get this all set up.

      FT-2800M from my home QTH

      TinyTrak 4

      PC running XP

      I've got APRSIS32 running and managed to get my location set and centered. My radio is transmitting and receiving on 144.39 so I assume I have the port configured correctly.

      Nothing is showing up on the map. I'm 25 miles from Charleston, SC where there is a good bit of activity but map shows none.

      I have internet access disabled. I'm out in the country and my only source for an internet connection is iPhone 5 via Verizon Wireless who charges the proverbial arm and leg for data so I CAN NOT run with an always on internet connection without mortgaging the house.

      I would expect that the data I'm receiving on 2 meters would populate something on the map and at least show where the packets are coming from and where they are going to. 

      But again, nothing on the map. I've checked and unchecked about every box I can think of and still nothing. I'm sure I'm missing the obvious. However, I'm not an advanced computer user and it seems that these programs and/or applications expect a certain level of expertise from the user. 

      At the top of the screen it says FT-2800 ( which is what I called the port ) followed by either CmdOpen or Delay.

      Any help for the helpless?


      Alan W4ANT

    • goatherder_4891
      What is amode set to? You need to have it in kiss and have aprsisce set to simply kiss in your port setup. KB3KBR Greg Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
      Message 91 of 91 , Aug 23, 2014
        What is amode set to? You need to have it in kiss and have aprsisce set to simply kiss in your port setup.

        KB3KBR Greg Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

        -------- Original message --------
        From: "Alan Fitzsimmons fitzsimmons.alan@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
        Date:08/23/2014 15:43 (GMT-05:00)
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Another newbie help


        I feel as if I'm getting closer guys. 

        I've completed the items you all wanted me to check -

        Run it on the terminal program and set the levels per the instructions on the quick start guide from Byonics.

        The TNC is responding indicating that it's receiving and transmitting. Again, the levels have been set to what I think is proper and per your instructions.

        However, I'm not sure I understand how to tell if it's decoding packets. When in monitor mode on the terminal program all I see is random gibberish, nothing discernible anymore. Before I set the levels, every once in a while it would print a string of numbers or "Tiny Trak 4 Alpha"

        When I save all the settings, cycle the TT4 and bring up the APRSIS32 program it shows my house where I've placed it but I see nothing else. 

        So now, again, I'm lost. Any ideas of where to go from here? I'm in total agreement with one of the statements someone made earlier, there are several items which need to be attended to in a particular order and I was expecting it to work by only attending to one. I'm sorry about being so ill informed.

        What it appears to me, the novice, is that nothing is being decoded or encoded since I'm not able to see anything populated on the map and my transmitted data is not being decoded by anyone else either. I'm I correct here?



        On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Rob Giuliano kb8rco@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        Listening on another radio will only help with the TT4 transmit.
        There is no correlation between what you hear on another radio - OR THAT RADIO (beyond maybe distortion) - and what the TT4 decodes.
        You need the terminal program and to use MONITOR to set the level of the TT4 to properly decode heard signals.  The procedure is available on byonics.com (quickstart guide).
        The ABSOLUTE KEY to success is to find a audio set point on the volume to ensure you can always place it in the same spot, this is key for the settings.
        Robert Giuliano


        From: "Alan Fitzsimmons fitzsimmons.alan@... [aprsisce]" <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com>
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:13 AM
        Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Another newbie help

        I did put the TNC in KISS mode then set the APRSIS32 for simply KISS. I deleted the old port and created a new one.

        The audio when listening from a separate radio sounds clean. However, I'm probably not the best judge either.

        Another newbie question. The need for a terminal emulator has been mentioned. What exactly do I need to get?

        This week, I'm going to download and print off as much information as I can related to these questions. As one person mentioned I really do need to educate myself so I understand the terminology. I guess I approached this wrong from the beginning. Looking at the information that goes along with the TT4, they do make it seem plug and play. This is obviously not my case.

        Let me study a little bit rather than waste everyone's time. I'm sure a person with IT experience or a teenager would have no trouble with what you folks are discussing. It's going to take me a little while.



        On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [aprsisce] <aprsisce@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
        Alan W4ANT wrote...

        > Simply KISS on APRSIS32...

        It has probably been said, but just in case...

        With Simply KISS you have to put the TNC in KISS mode ahead
        of time. The APRS client doesn't put it in KISS mode for you
        or take it out of KISS mode when you exit the program. The
        TNC must be locked in KISS mode all of the time.

        The alternative is to have the APRS client place the TNC
        in KISS mode and exit KISS mode when you exit the program.
        If you will never be using the TNC for anything else, or
        don't need it out of KISS mode for troubleshooting or
        changing settings or whatever, Simply KISS might be easier,
        but my preference is to exit KISS mode if the program using
        the TNC ever closes.

        Like Lynn said, use a terminal program to make sure the TNC
        and audio levels are all set up and that the TNC is decoding
        properly ahead of time. Setting the level with a volume
        control will never be precise, but hopefully close enough
        that it works most of the time. Listen on the APRS frequency
        to make sure the beacons you are hearing are clean. If they
        are noisy, under-deviated, over-deviated or have lots of
        multi-path distortion, you will have trouble decoding. With
        stations all over the place, some will be noisy or have
        distortion. Some will have levels too high or too low. Hopefully
        most are decodeable, but listen with your ears for a while
        to see what the radio is hearing. You can't do anything about
        other stations that don't have their deviation set correctly,
        but you can adjust the audio level to the TNC.

        73 Keith VE7GDH

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