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  • Fred Hillhouse
    If you have those settings, doesn t the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit? When I am testing a port, I
    Message 1 of 21 , Apr 1, 2013
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      If you have those settings, doesn't the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit?
       
      When I am testing a port, I normally am following ME anyway, so a Transmit is fine. I would hate to have messed up and transmitted a different position and then look silly because I had to have someone else find my blunder for me. Not that that ever happens in real life.
       
      It is Fool's Day so I can say "it never happens".
       
      Best regards,
      Fred, N7FMH
       
       


      From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano
      Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 13:52
      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move

       

      In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
       
       
      KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
       
      QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
       
       
      Robert Giuliano
      KB8RCO


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      From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
      Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
       
      Move ME to Center? Yes.

      Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

      Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

      Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

      There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

      The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
      need to move ME?

      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

      On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
      > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
      >
      > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
      > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
      > you own position.
      >
      > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
      > few miles from home.
      > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
      > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
      > Configure menu ?
      >
      > --
      > Lasse
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >

    • Tom
      Please take me off all your email list 73 Tom Arias KF6EZV
      Message 2 of 21 , Apr 1, 2013
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        Please take me off all your email list

        73
        Tom Arias
         KF6EZV





        On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

         

        In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
         
         
        KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
         
        QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
         
         
        Robert Giuliano
        KB8RCO


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        From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
        Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
         
        Move ME to Center? Yes.

        Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

        Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

        Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

        There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

        The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
        need to move ME?

        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

        On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
        > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
        >
        > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
        > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
        > you own position.
        >
        > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
        > few miles from home.
        > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
        > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
        > Configure menu ?
        >
        > --
        > Lasse
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ------------------------------------
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >

      • Fred Hillhouse
        Please visit your Yahoo page and unsubscribe. If you already have, then please be patient as Yahoo is sometimes very slow in updating your group memberships.
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          Please visit your Yahoo page and unsubscribe. If you already have, then please be patient as Yahoo is sometimes very slow in updating your group memberships.
           
          As a heads up, you may have to be very patient. It has taken several weeks in the past.
           
          Best regards,
          Fred, N7FMH, Co-moderator
           
           


          From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
          Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:00
          To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
          Cc: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move

           

          Please take me off all your email list

          73
          Tom Arias
           KF6EZV





          On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Rob Giuliano <kb8rco@...> wrote:

           

          In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
           
           
          KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
           
          QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
           
           
          Robert Giuliano
          KB8RCO


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          From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
          To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
          Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
           
          Move ME to Center? Yes.

          Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

          Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

          Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

          There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

          The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
          need to move ME?

          Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

          On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
          > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
          >
          > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
          > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
          > you own position.
          >
          > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
          > few miles from home.
          > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
          > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
          > Configure menu ?
          >
          > --
          > Lasse
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > ------------------------------------
          >
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
          >

        • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
          Screen / Follow / ME unchecks when you center on another station. Selecting that menu option puts it back to keeping ME at the center, especially if you also
          Message 4 of 21 , Apr 1, 2013
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            Screen / Follow / ME unchecks when you center on another station.  Selecting that menu option puts it back to keeping ME at the center, especially if you also check Screen / Follow / Locked.

            Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

            On 4/1/2013 1:51 PM, Rob Giuliano wrote:
            In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
             
             
            KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
             
            QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
             
             
            Robert Giuliano
            KB8RCO


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            From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
            To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
            Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
             
            Move ME to Center? Yes.

            Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

            Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

            Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

            There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

            The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
            need to move ME?

            Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

            On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
            > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
            >
            > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
            > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
            > you own position.
            >
            > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
            > few miles from home.
            > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
            > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
            > Configure menu ?
            >
            > --
            > Lasse
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > ------------------------------------
            >
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
            >


          • Tom
            Please take me off your email list 73 Tom Arias KF6EZV
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              Please take me off your email list

              73
              Tom Arias
               KF6EZV





              On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:59 AM, "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...> wrote:

               

              If you have those settings, doesn't the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit?
               
              When I am testing a port, I normally am following ME anyway, so a Transmit is fine. I would hate to have messed up and transmitted a different position and then look silly because I had to have someone else find my blunder for me. Not that that ever happens in real life.
               
              It is Fool's Day so I can say "it never happens".
               
              Best regards,
              Fred, N7FMH
               
               


              From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano
              Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 13:52
              To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move

               

              In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
               
               
              KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
               
              QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
               
               
              Robert Giuliano
              KB8RCO


              ---------------------------------------------
              From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
              To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
              Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
               
              Move ME to Center? Yes.

              Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

              Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

              Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

              There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

              The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
              need to move ME?

              Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

              On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
              > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
              >
              > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
              > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
              > you own position.
              >
              > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
              > few miles from home.
              > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
              > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
              > Configure menu ?
              >
              > --
              > Lasse
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------
              >
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >

            • Rob Giuliano
              If you have those settings, doesn t the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit?   No!  It leave the screen,
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                If you have those settings, doesn't the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit?
                 
                No!  It leave the screen, but transmits the position of "ME" - at least that has been my experience, and I just tried it again.
                 
                Robert Giuliano
                KB8RCO


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                From: Fred Hillhouse <fmhillhouse@...>
                To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:59 PM
                Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
                 
                If you have those settings, doesn't the screen re-center when you transmit? If so, why pan the screen first and then transmit?
                 
                When I am testing a port, I normally am following ME anyway, so a Transmit is fine. I would hate to have messed up and transmitted a different position and then look silly because I had to have someone else find my blunder for me. Not that that ever happens in real life.
                 
                It is Fool's Day so I can say "it never happens".
                 
                Best regards,
                Fred, N7FMH
                 
                 
                From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano
                Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 13:52
                To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
                 
                In my case, it was to test a new TNC (port) I connected, but didn't want to wait fro the timer to expire.
                 
                 
                KEY is to have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked.  Then, even if you move the center, it still transmits your "ME" position.
                 
                QUESTION:  Why wouldn't you have ">Screen >Follow >Me" checked, other than a special case?
                 
                 
                Robert Giuliano
                KB8RCO
                ---------------------------------------------
                From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...>
                To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:30 PM
                Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
                 
                Move ME to Center? Yes. Do you really want to move ME? Yes. Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes. Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes. There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question. The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the need to move ME? Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote: > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-) > > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from > you own position. > > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a > few miles from home. > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the > Configure menu ? > > -- > Lasse > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
              • la5ppa
                It was beacause I wanted to check and see if the TX was ok via my radio, thats all, sorry for asking.
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                  It was beacause I wanted to check and see if the TX was ok via my radio, thats all, sorry for asking.

                  --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Move ME to Center? Yes.
                  >
                  > Do you really want to move ME? Yes.
                  >
                  > Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.
                  >
                  > Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.
                  >
                  > There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.
                  >
                  > The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                  > need to move ME?
                  >
                  > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
                  > > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
                  > >
                  > > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                  > > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                  > > you own position.
                  > >
                  > > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                  > > few miles from home.
                  > > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                  > > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                  > > Configure menu ?
                  > >
                  > > --
                  > > Lasse
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ------------------------------------
                  > >
                  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                  I didn t mind the question and apologize if you took my response wrongly. I was just trying to point out how confirmations of confirmations tends to be
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                    I didn't mind the question and apologize if you took my response
                    wrongly. I was just trying to point out how confirmations of
                    confirmations tends to be in-effective. At least, that has been my
                    experience.

                    I hope you consider re-joining the group because it is questions from
                    users that can assist me in making APRSISCE/32 better. Sometimes my
                    initial response may be negative, but sometimes things can percolate in
                    my brain and come out with an alternate solution to a user-initiated issue.

                    That's really why I was asking your use of Transmit (which is exactly
                    what it is there for) because I was wondering if there was a situation
                    where Transmit was necessary more than I was aware of.

                    Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                    On 4/1/2013 3:27 PM, la5ppa wrote:
                    > It was beacause I wanted to check and see if the TX was ok via my radio, thats all, sorry for asking.
                    >
                    > --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                    >> Move ME to Center? Yes.
                    >>
                    >> Do you really want to move ME? Yes.
                    >>
                    >> Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.
                    >>
                    >> Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.
                    >>
                    >> There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.
                    >>
                    >> The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                    >> need to move ME?
                    >>
                    >> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                    >>
                    >>
                    >>
                    >> On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
                    >>> if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
                    >>>
                    >>> Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                    >>> menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                    >>> you own position.
                    >>>
                    >>> Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                    >>> few miles from home.
                    >>> Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                    >>> could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                    >>> Configure menu ?
                    >>>
                    >>> --
                    >>> Lasse
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>> ------------------------------------
                    >>>
                    >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >>>
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ------------------------------------
                    >
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                  • Stephen Atkins
                    This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:) I ve also done this my self so I feel your
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                      This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:)

                      I've also done this my self so I feel your pain.

                      Stephen
                      VE6SU

                      On Apr 1, 2013 11:16 AM, "Lasse / LA5PPA" <div.tt14@...> wrote:
                       

                      if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)

                      Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                      menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                      you own position.

                      Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                      few miles from home.
                      Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                      could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                      Configure menu ?

                      --
                      Lasse

                    • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                      ... We ve also be telling people to proof-read e-mails before poking send! ( ...ready the prompt... ? LOL) Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows
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                        On 4/1/2013 8:04 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                        This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:)

                        We've also be telling people to proof-read e-mails before poking send!  ("...ready the prompt..."? LOL)

                        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                      • Stephen Atkins
                        Darn auto correct on my phone must have done that. Thanks for pointing out how dumb I look :) Stephen
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                          Darn auto correct on my phone must have done that.  Thanks for pointing out how dumb I look :)

                          Stephen


                          On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                           

                          On 4/1/2013 8:04 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                          This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:)

                          We've also be telling people to proof-read e-mails before poking send!  ("...ready the prompt..."? LOL)


                          Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


                        • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                          I m guilty of not checking completely who I was about to hassle! I really thought that was a post by James and wanted to give him a bit of grief. Never meant
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                            I'm guilty of not checking completely who I was about to hassle!  I really thought that was a post by James and wanted to give him a bit of grief.  Never meant to embarrass anyone other than James!  Please accept my public apology.

                            Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                            On 4/2/2013 5:55 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                            Darn auto correct on my phone must have done that.  Thanks for pointing out how dumb I look :)

                            Stephen


                            On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                             
                            On 4/1/2013 8:04 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                            This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:)

                            We've also be telling people to proof-read e-mails before poking send!  ("...ready the prompt..."? LOL)


                            Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



                          • James Ewen
                            ... HA! Saw the VE6S and assumed it must be that loud mouth from Edmonton, huh? Stephen is from a little bit east of here! Stephen, you might need to change
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                              On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:

                              > I'm guilty of not checking completely who I was about to hassle! I really
                              > thought that was a post by James and wanted to give him a bit of grief.
                              > Never meant to embarrass anyone other than James! Please accept my public
                              > apology.

                              HA! Saw the VE6S and assumed it must be that loud mouth from Edmonton,
                              huh? Stephen is from a little bit east of here!

                              Stephen, you might need to change your callsign to disassociate
                              yourself from me! :)

                              --
                              James
                              VE6SRV

                              PS. You must be missing me... I've been unusually quiet for quite a
                              while. I'll really go quiet for a couple weeks here when I go out to a
                              work camp and spend a couple weeks installing 200 radios into trucks.
                              I'm contemplating sneaking a new APRS digipeater into a site where I
                              have to install a new repeater.
                            • Stephen Atkins
                              No problem. I take as well as I give. Back on subject. The original post does raise a problem and one that I have tried to solve in some of my programs also.
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                                No problem.  I take as well as I give.

                                Back on subject. The original post does raise a problem and one that I have tried to solve in some of my programs also. Basically it comes down to how many times do you ask "Are you sure?"

                                I'll leave it up to the developers to answer that one. I've always wondered why when I click tx it would want to move to the centre. Most times I just want to send a packet and see whos listening or to check paths.  Just my two cents so take my comments for what they are worth.

                                Stephen

                                P.S. removing the yahoo added text when replying on a tanlet is really hard.

                                On 2013-04-02 4:44 PM, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                 

                                I'm guilty of not checking completely who I was about to hassle!  I really thought that was a post by James and wanted to give him a bit of grief.  Never meant to embarrass anyone other than James!  Please accept my public apology.

                                Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                                On 4/2/2013 5:55 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                                Darn auto correct on my phone must have done that.  Thanks for pointing out how dumb I look :)

                                Stephen


                                On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                 
                                On 4/1/2013 8:04 PM, Stephen Atkins wrote:
                                This is something programmers have been telling users for many years. Always ready the prompt before clicking:)

                                We've also be telling people to proof-read e-mails before poking send!  ("...ready the prompt..."? LOL)


                                Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



                              • Lee D Bengston
                                My question is why is there a need to move when clicking transmit? When I was brand new to this program, I had just zoomed in and set my position, zoomed back
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                                  My question is why is there a need to move when clicking transmit?  When I was brand new to this program, I had just zoomed in and set my position, zoomed back out (and I must have also scrolled the map a bit so that I was not in the center).  Next I clicked transmit simply to try out the capability to transmit on demand, and I got the prompt if it was OK to move ME to the center of the map.  I misunderstood that it meant to center the map around my position, which made more sense to me at the time - after all I had just set a position for a fixed station, so why would I want to move it to wherever the current center of the map was?  Therefore I clicked yes and was moved to the center of the map - oops.

                                  Now on a more positive note, I took APRSIS32 in a Netbook on a road trip last fall from Virginia to Wisconsin and back, and it worked great.  The genius beaconing worked well, and pre-fetched map tiles were the best free off-line map solution I could find.  The big speedometer was a nice touch, too.

                                  Lee - K5DAT


                                  On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                   

                                  Move ME to Center? Yes.

                                  Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

                                  Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

                                  Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

                                  There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

                                  The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                                  need to move ME?

                                  Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



                                  On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
                                  > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
                                  >
                                  > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                                  > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                                  > you own position.
                                  >
                                  > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                                  > few miles from home.
                                  > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                                  > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                                  > Configure menu ?
                                  >
                                  > --
                                  > Lasse
                                  >


                                • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                                  The road trip is actually the reason that there s an easy way to Move ME to Center on the transmit. If you couple it with the Configure / Beacon / After
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                                    The road trip is actually the reason that there's an easy way to "Move ME to Center" on the transmit.  If you couple it with the Configure / Beacon / After Transmit, you have an excellent APRS solution for the GPS-less netbook.  Each night, you move the map to center on where you've settled in, hit Transmit, and say Yes.  The "After Transmit" selection makes sure that no beacons are sent with your old location when you restart the client until you have had a chance to re-center the map on where ME should be and then manually hit Transmit.

                                    IMHO, there's practically no other reason for the Transmit menu option beyond testing, and while testing, just make sure you're centered where you want to be or keep answering No to the question.

                                    Maybe I'll just change the menu option to "Move ME" which implies a transmit since your location may have changed...

                                    Glad to know the road trip went well.  I also like the (configurably - see Configure / Screen / Speed Font Size) big speedometer.  I trust GPS-based speeds much more than the car speedometer which seem to consistently be incorrect.

                                    Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                                    On 4/3/2013 9:18 PM, Lee D Bengston wrote:
                                    My question is why is there a need to move when clicking transmit?  When I was brand new to this program, I had just zoomed in and set my position, zoomed back out (and I must have also scrolled the map a bit so that I was not in the center).  Next I clicked transmit simply to try out the capability to transmit on demand, and I got the prompt if it was OK to move ME to the center of the map.  I misunderstood that it meant to center the map around my position, which made more sense to me at the time - after all I had just set a position for a fixed station, so why would I want to move it to wherever the current center of the map was?  Therefore I clicked yes and was moved to the center of the map - oops.

                                    Now on a more positive note, I took APRSIS32 in a Netbook on a road trip last fall from Virginia to Wisconsin and back, and it worked great.  The genius beaconing worked well, and pre-fetched map tiles were the best free off-line map solution I could find.  The big speedometer was a nice touch, too.

                                    Lee - K5DAT


                                    On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                     

                                    Move ME to Center? Yes.

                                    Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

                                    Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

                                    Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

                                    There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

                                    The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                                    need to move ME?

                                    Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



                                    On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
                                    > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
                                    >
                                    > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                                    > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                                    > you own position.
                                    >
                                    > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                                    > few miles from home.
                                    > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                                    > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                                    > Configure menu ?
                                    >
                                    > --
                                    > Lasse
                                    >



                                  • Rob Giuliano
                                    Without putting words in Lynn s mouth, I would call it  Fine Tuning . The only time you would hit transmit on a stationary station after moving the map, would
                                    Message 17 of 21 , Apr 3, 2013
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                                      Without putting words in Lynn's mouth, I would call it "Fine Tuning".
                                      The only time you would hit transmit on a stationary station after moving the map, would be to fine tune your position.
                                      I would thing that the move to center is done on transmits for that reason.
                                       
                                      That is why I turn it off!
                                        > Screen >Follow > ME
                                      This will transmit the position of ME if you hit transmit, even if the map has been moved.
                                       
                                       
                                       
                                      Robert Giuliano
                                      KB8RCO


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                                      From: Lee D Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
                                      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:18 PM
                                      Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
                                       
                                      My question is why is there a need to move when clicking transmit?  When I was brand new to this program, I had just zoomed in and set my position, zoomed back out (and I must have also scrolled the map a bit so that I was not in the center).  Next I clicked transmit simply to try out the capability to transmit on demand, and I got the prompt if it was OK to move ME to the center of the map.  I misunderstood that it meant to center the map around my position, which made more sense to me at the time - after all I had just set a position for a fixed station, so why would I want to move it to wherever the current center of the map was?  Therefore I clicked yes and was moved to the center of the map - oops.
                                      Now on a more positive note, I took APRSIS32 in a Netbook on a road trip last fall from Virginia to Wisconsin and back, and it worked great.  The genius beaconing worked well, and pre-fetched map tiles were the best free off-line map solution I could find.  The big speedometer was a nice touch, too.
                                      Lee - K5DAT
                                      On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                       
                                      Move ME to Center? Yes.

                                      Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

                                      Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

                                      Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

                                      There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

                                      The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                                      need to move ME?

                                      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
                                      On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote: > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-) > > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from > you own position. > > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a > few miles from home. > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the > Configure menu ? > > -- > Lasse >
                                    • Greg Depew
                                      I actually like the transmit button for when I switch to the iss and want to see if I can be digied on the lower elevations. KB3KBR Greg Sent from my Droid
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                                        I actually like the transmit button for when I switch to the iss and want to see if I can be digied on the lower elevations.KB3KBR Greg Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE


                                        -----Original Message-----
                                        From: Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
                                        Sent: 4/4/2013 1:54:32 AM
                                        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                                        Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Transmit = quick move
                                         

                                        The road trip is actually the reason that there's an easy way to "Move ME to Center" on the transmit.  If you couple it with the Configure / Beacon / After Transmit, you have an excellent APRS solution for the GPS-less netbook.  Each night, you move the map to center on where you've settled in, hit Transmit, and say Yes.  The "After Transmit" selection makes sure that no beacons are sent with your old location when you restart the client until you have had a chance to re-center the map on where ME should be and then manually hit Transmit.

                                        IMHO, there's practically no other reason for the Transmit menu option beyond testing, and while testing, just make sure you're centered where you want to be or keep answering No to the question.

                                        Maybe I'll just change the menu option to "Move ME" which implies a transmit since your location may have changed...

                                        Glad to know the road trip went well.  I also like the (configurably - see Configure / Screen / Speed Font Size) big speedometer.  I trust GPS-based speeds much more than the car speedometer which seem to consistently be incorrect.

                                        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

                                        On 4/3/2013 9:18 PM, Lee D Bengston wrote:
                                        My question is why is there a need to move when clicking transmit?  When I was brand new to this program, I had just zoomed in and set my position, zoomed back out (and I must have also scrolled the map a bit so that I was not in the center).  Next I clicked transmit simply to try out the capability to transmit on demand, and I got the prompt if it was OK to move ME to the center of the map.  I misunderstood that it meant to center the map around my position, which made more sense to me at the time - after all I had just set a position for a fixed station, so why would I want to move it to wherever the current center of the map was?  Therefore I clicked yes and was moved to the center of the map - oops.

                                        Now on a more positive note, I took APRSIS32 in a Netbook on a road trip last fall from Virginia to Wisconsin and back, and it worked great.  The genius beaconing worked well, and pre-fetched map tiles were the best free off-line map solution I could find.  The big speedometer was a nice touch, too.

                                        Lee - K5DAT


                                        On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
                                         

                                        Move ME to Center? Yes.

                                        Do you really want to move ME? Yes.

                                        Did you REALLY mean to move ME? Yes.

                                        Moving ME might not be what you want to do, are you SURE? Yes.

                                        There is NO recovery for someone that simply clicks Yes on every question.

                                        The real question I have is why are you clicking Transmit without the
                                        need to move ME?

                                        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32



                                        On 4/1/2013 1:16 PM, Lasse / LA5PPA wrote:
                                        > if you don't read carefully what the message box tells you :-)
                                        >
                                        > Not sure if this is a big problem but when you click on Transmit in the
                                        > menubar you get a message "Move ME To Center" if your out of center from
                                        > you own position.
                                        >
                                        > Many people like my self always press Yes and suddenly I was located a
                                        > few miles from home.
                                        > Maybe an extra "Are you sure you want to move your position" dialog box
                                        > could be an idea or remove the function and add location to the
                                        > Configure menu ?
                                        >
                                        > --
                                        > Lasse
                                        >



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