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Re: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

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  • James Ewen
    ... I can put two lines in there and have them alternate... one on, the other off. ... I set the flash rate in the gif to 1 second per frame. I don t want to
    Message 1 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013
      On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Colin XSD <m0xsd@...> wrote:

      > The trouble is the text isn't there half of the time:(

      I can put two lines in there and have them alternate... one on, the other off.

      > Only joking, seriously though the flash rate seems a bit slow, can it be
      > speeded up? or is it a fuction of my slow computer?

      I set the flash rate in the gif to 1 second per frame. I don't want to
      set off any epileptic fits!

      > Sorry if I sound picky but you are doing a good job.

      My Asperger's Syndrome kicks in some days... When you write explicit
      instructions, then explain the explicit instructions, and then have
      people ask "What were those explicit instructions again?" right after
      you've just discussed the explicit instruction in detail, I fall into
      the deep end!

      Sorry Joe for falling off the wagon on your email!

      Lynn, just a line on the configure page next to the APRS passcode
      entry box would work. Just some text that says: "If you need a
      passcode send an email to aprsisce-owner@yahoogroups.com"

      No hot link, no smtp access, no automatically generated passcode, just
      a reminder right there where the passcode is needed of who to contact.

      It's pretty obvious due to the number of people sending requests here
      that the current process isn't being understood.

      --
      James
      VE6SRV
    • Steve Daniels
      I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will
      Message 2 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013

        I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will change it now.

         

        Steve Daniels

        Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

        Torbay Freecycle  Owner

        http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

        APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

         


        From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Elmore
        Sent: 08 January 2013 19:15
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

         

         

        Just a thought, but if you’ve got folks joining the group to ask for a passcode, you could mention the email address (or provide a link back to the wiki’s “passcode” page) on the Yahoo Group’s main page where they have to click to join. 

         

        Do you mention the passcode in the automated emails sent out when Group membership is approved?  If not, that could be another spot.

        --

        Roger  KJ4AJP

         

        Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:


        Like it says at your quoted link (emphasis theirs):



        It is the responsibility of each software author to provide the proper passcode to their individual users on a request basis.


        Note the "on a request basis".  Nope, I can't make it part of the application, nor would I want to.  There are several of us that field the aprsisce-owner e-mails and grand passcodes.   To do it any other way would put a single point of failure in the passcode granting process.

        Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

        PS.  And if you want to see some virus scanners and internet "protection" programs go nuts, just let me add an SMTP client in there!  "Warning: Unauthorized program is attempting to send an e-mail, application has been deleted".


        On 1/8/2013 1:26 PM, lancehomer wrote:

        Can
         Lynn make the passcode request process part of the app rather than having it be something that seems to be confusing to many such that it requires blinking letters and colors? (http://www.aprs-is.net/Connecting.aspx)
         
        --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, James Ewen  wrote:
         
        On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM, James Ewen  wrote:
         
        It doesn't blink in bright red, but it is pretty prominent.
         
        I didn't go with red, but the link is now blinking in big blue
        letters... pretty hard to miss it now.
         
        -- 
        James
        VE6SRV
         
         
         
         

         

      • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
        ... Actually, I wouldn t go that far. We field quite a number of passcode requests that come in via the preferred route with nary a mention in the group. The
        Message 3 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013
          On 1/8/2013 2:40 PM, James Ewen wrote:
          > It's pretty obvious due to the number of people sending requests here
          > that the current process isn't being understood.

          Actually, I wouldn't go that far. We field quite a number of passcode
          requests that come in via the preferred route with nary a mention in the
          group. The current system IS working. It's just not working 100%.

          Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
        • James Ewen
          On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Steve Daniels ... Aha, now we know the source of the issue! More floggings to ensue! 8) -- James VE6SRV
          Message 4 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013
            On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Steve Daniels
            <steve@...> wrote:

            > I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks
            > people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that
            > before Will change it now.

            Aha, now we know the source of the issue! More floggings to ensue! 8)

            --
            James
            VE6SRV
          • Steve Daniels
            Might well be the issue James it s been that way a long time I would think. Now change to the correct email address and a link to the passcode page on the wiki
            Message 5 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013

              Might well be the issue James it’s been that way a long time I would think. Now change to the correct email address and a link to the passcode page on the wiki added.

              It’s a plain text file so I don’t think I can make the text Bold sadly

               

              Steve Daniels

              Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

              Torbay Freecycle  Owner

              http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

              APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

               


              From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of James Ewen
              Sent: 08 January 2013 20:05
              To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

               

               

              On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Steve Daniels
              steve@...> wrote:

              > I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks
              > people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that
              > before Will change it now.

              Aha, now we know the source of the issue! More floggings to ensue! 8)

              --
              James
              VE6SRV

            • James Ewen
              On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Steve Daniels ... Hey, my rant got something happening. Interesting that no one previously had mentioned that the welcome
              Message 6 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013
                On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Steve Daniels
                <steve@...> wrote:

                > Might well be the issue James it’s been that way a long time I would
                > think. Now change to the correct email address and a link to the passcode
                > page on the wiki added.

                Hey, my rant got something happening. Interesting that no one
                previously had mentioned that the welcome message said to ask here...
                I haven't signed up to the group for an awful long time otherwise I
                would have mentioned it!

                > It’s a plain text file so I don’t think I can make the text Bold sadly

                I figured out how to get blinky text in the wiki! Quit using excuses! 8)

                --
                James
                VE6SRV
              • Roger Elmore
                Invite them in so James can whack them with a hammer. Reminds me of a movie I saw. -- Roger KJ4AJP Steve Daniels wrote: I just checked and the yahoo file
                Message 7 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013

                  Invite them in so James can whack them with a hammer. 

                   

                  Reminds me of a movie I saw.  <g>

                  --

                  Roger  KJ4AJP

                   

                  Steve Daniels wrote:

                   

                  I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will change it now.

                   


                  Roger Elmore wrote:

                   Just a thought, but if you’ve got folks joining the group to ask for a passcode, you could mention the email address (or provide a link back to the wiki’s “passcode” page) on the Yahoo Group’s main page where they have to click to join. 

                  Do you mention the passcode in the automated emails sent out when Group membership is approved?  If not, that could be another spot.

                • Steve Daniels
                  I had edited the file recently and just did not spot it, your mention made me double check. Will have to put something in there to give James something to do
                  Message 8 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013

                    I had edited the file recently and just did not spot it, your mention made me double check.

                    Will have to put something in there to give James something to do nowJ

                    Will see if I can get some bold text or something in the file

                     

                    Steve Daniels

                    Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

                    Torbay Freecycle  Owner

                    http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

                    APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

                     


                    From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Elmore
                    Sent: 08 January 2013 20:27
                    To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

                     

                     

                    Invite them in so James can whack them with a hammer. 

                     

                    Reminds me of a movie I saw.  <g>

                    --

                    Roger  KJ4AJP

                     

                    Steve Daniels wrote:

                     

                    I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will change it now.

                     


                    Roger Elmore wrote:


                     Just a thought, but if you’ve got folks joining the group to ask for a passcode, you could mention the email address (or provide a link back to the wiki’s “passcode” page) on the Yahoo Group’s main page where they have to click to join. 

                    Do you mention the passcode in the automated emails sent out when Group membership is approved?  If not, that could be another spot.

                  • Rob Giuliano
                    Wouldn t hurt to try the old fashion HTML style.  Even if it doesn t actually come out bold, it will catch their attention.  Many may even
                    Message 9 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013
                      Wouldn't hurt to try the old fashion <b> </b> HTML style.  Even if it doesn't actually come out bold, it will catch their attention.  Many may even understand the intent.
                       
                      DOWNSIDE -> if the HTML is rejected, it may not send anything.
                                                 a test of this would definitely be needed before implementation.
                       
                      Robert Giuliano
                      KB8RCO


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                      From: Steve Daniels <steve@...>
                      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:35 PM
                      Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode
                       
                      I had edited the file recently and just did not spot it, your mention made me double check.
                      Will have to put something in there to give James something to do nowJ
                      Will see if I can get some bold text or something in the file
                       
                      Steve Daniels
                      Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM
                      Torbay Freecycle  Owner
                      http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle
                      APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
                       
                      From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Elmore
                      Sent: 08 January 2013 20:27
                      To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode
                       
                       
                      Invite them in so James can whack them with a hammer. 
                       
                      Reminds me of a movie I saw.  <g>
                      --
                      Roger  KJ4AJP
                       
                      Steve Daniels wrote:
                       
                      I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will change it now.
                       
                      Roger Elmore wrote:


                       Just a thought, but if you’ve got folks joining the group to ask for a passcode, you could mention the email address (or provide a link back to the wiki’s “passcode” page) on the Yahoo Group’s main page where they have to click to join. 
                      Do you mention the passcode in the automated emails sent out when Group membership is approved?  If not, that could be another spot.
                    • Steve Daniels
                      Well it s a text file it would really depend on the email client, would have to try it out Steve Daniels Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM Torbay Freecycle Owner
                      Message 10 of 23 , Jan 8, 2013

                        Well it’s a text file it would really depend on the email client, would have to try it out

                         

                        Steve Daniels

                        Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

                        Torbay Freecycle  Owner

                        http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

                        APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

                         


                        From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano
                        Sent: 08 January 2013 23:59
                        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

                         

                         

                        Wouldn't hurt to try the old fashion <b> </b> HTML style.  Even if it doesn't actually come out bold, it will catch their attention.  Many may even understand the intent.

                         

                        DOWNSIDE -> if the HTML is rejected, it may not send anything.

                                                   a test of this would definitely be needed before implementation.

                         

                        Robert Giuliano
                        KB8RCO

                         

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                        From: Steve Daniels <steve@...>
                        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:35 PM
                        Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

                         

                        I had edited the file recently and just did not spot it, your mention made me double check.

                        Will have to put something in there to give James something to do nowJ

                        Will see if I can get some bold text or something in the file

                         

                        Steve Daniels

                        Amateur Radio Callsign G6UIM

                        Torbay Freecycle  Owner

                        http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle

                        APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com

                         

                        From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Elmore
                        Sent: 08 January 2013 20:27
                        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re: APRSIS32 Passcode

                         

                         

                        Invite them in so James can whack them with a hammer. 

                         

                        Reminds me of a movie I saw.  <g>

                        --

                        Roger  KJ4AJP

                         

                        Steve Daniels wrote:

                         

                        I just checked and the yahoo file sent on joining is incorrect and asks people to request a passcode on the main group. I had not spotted that before Will change it now.

                         

                        Roger Elmore wrote:

                         Just a thought, but if you’ve got folks joining the group to ask for a passcode, you could mention the email address (or provide a link back to the wiki’s “passcode” page) on the Yahoo Group’s main page where they have to click to join. 

                        Do you mention the passcode in the automated emails sent out when Group membership is approved?  If not, that could be another spot.

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