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  • na4it
    APRSIS32 certainly looks like it will be a great program. Just wish I had a full time internet connection instead of the US Cellular modem. My question is
    Message 1 of 7 , Mar 29, 2012
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      APRSIS32 certainly looks like it will be a great program. Just wish I had a "full time" internet connection instead of the US Cellular modem.

      My question is this (along with a suggestion):
      Can the xml file from one instance be copied, have the call sign edited, and given to another user to do a quick setup of their software?

      The suggestion would be maybe a start up wizard that you would enter the most pertinent data instead of having to look through the menus.

      de NA4IT
      Long time UI-View32 user
    • Fred Hillhouse
      Regarding the instance, yes. I do that sometimes. One thing that comes to mind is when UI-View, IIRC, is started new, it always requires the user to go through
      Message 2 of 7 , Mar 29, 2012
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        Regarding the instance, yes. I do that sometimes.
         
        One thing that comes to mind is when UI-View, IIRC, is started new, it always requires the user to go through the same beginning steps. This isn't a whole lot different.
         
        I think there is a YouTube video for a guide.
         
         
        Best regards,
        Fred, N7FMH


        From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of na4it
        Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 08:32
        To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [aprsisce] Thoughts / question on xml file

         

        APRSIS32 certainly looks like it will be a great program. Just wish I had a "full time" internet connection instead of the US Cellular modem.

        My question is this (along with a suggestion):
        Can the xml file from one instance be copied, have the call sign edited, and given to another user to do a quick setup of their software?

        The suggestion would be maybe a start up wizard that you would enter the most pertinent data instead of having to look through the menus.

        de NA4IT
        Long time UI-View32 user

      • Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
        ... You just need to put up an RF interface and good antenna and you d at least be able to watch the local activity! ... Yes, you can edit the XML file to
        Message 3 of 7 , Mar 29, 2012
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          On 3/29/2012 8:31 AM, na4it wrote:
          > APRSIS32 certainly looks like it will be a great program. Just wish I had a "full time" internet connection instead of the US Cellular modem.

          You just need to put up an RF interface and good antenna and you'd at
          least be able to watch the local activity!

          > My question is this (along with a suggestion):
          > Can the xml file from one instance be copied, have the call sign edited, and given to another user to do a quick setup of their software?

          Yes, you can edit the XML file to change the callsign and location, but
          they'll still have to tell the application where to put the OSMTiles
          when they first start it up. If there is no .XML file, it will quietly
          drop the OSMTiles tree in the current directory. If there IS an .XML
          file, and the directory isn't found, APRSISCE/32 will prompt the user to
          identify where the tiles should be stored. And IMHO, this is more
          confusing than just entering a callsign and pan/zooming to set the
          station's location.

          > The suggestion would be maybe a start up wizard that you would enter the most pertinent data instead of having to look through the menus.

          What is "the most pertinent data"? How is a wizard going to be easier
          than (from http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/initial-startup):

          > 0) Unzip the APRSIS32.ZIP (APRSISCE6P.ZIP) file to an empty directory
          >
          > Note: Windows 7 and Windows Mobile users: Do NOT put this directory
          > under "Program Files" or any other Windows-Protected directory or the
          > About-based automatic update will not work properly.
          >
          > 1) Double-click APRSIS32.EXE (APRSISCE6P.EXE on Windows Mobile)
          >
          > 2) Enter callsign-SSID and press Enter or click Accept
          >
          > 3) Drag and zoom to find "Home" and click Transmit (prompt remains at
          > bottom of screen)
          >
          > 4) Done. Up and running and watching the APRS world.
          >
          > 5) You can use File Manager (Windows Explorer) to Copy the .EXE and
          > Paste a Shortcut onto the Start Menu or wherever you'd like one.
          > Renaming the shortcut is fine after it has been created.
          >

          I can't see a wizard doing something easier than that. Especially after
          I add the ability to enter lat/lon directly while doing the pan/zoom to
          locate Home.

          Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

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        • Larry Ledlow, Jr. N1TX
          ... Just my two cents as an old systems engineer: The user interface for APRSICE represents a significant departure from what many users have become familiar
          Message 4 of 7 , Mar 29, 2012
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            On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr) <kj4erj@...> wrote:
             


            What is "the most pertinent data"? How is a wizard going to be easier
            than (from http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/initial-startup):


            Just my two cents as an old systems engineer: The user interface for APRSICE represents a significant departure from what many users have become familiar with.  I know I had some initial difficulty understanding what was going on.  So "easier" is in the eye of the beholder, and user expectations can often determine whether something is easy or not.  And many products and programs are designed by subject matter experts and technical specialists, to whom many things are obvious, but to new users coming from a different perspective, not so much.  There's a wonderful book called "The Design of Everyday Things" by Donald Norman that discusses these important differences and the psychology of design.  

            Anyway, keep up the great work.  There's a learning curve to everything. The approach you have is elegant and innovative.

            --
            Larry L. Ledlow, Jr.  KL7/N1TX
            Two Rivers Contest Club KL2R
          • Bob Bruninga
            ... I kinda has that same reaction... I keep leaning on APRSISCE to include some simple tabular station data so one can quickly group, and sort data according
            Message 5 of 7 , Mar 29, 2012
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              > Just my two cents as an old systems engineer:
              > The user interface for APRSICE represents a significant
              > departure from what many users have become familiar with.

              I kinda has that same reaction... I keep leaning on APRSISCE to include
              some simple tabular station data so one can quickly group, and sort data
              according to any of the 20 or so dimensions of parameters available for
              those of us not so focused on the map. I think it is somewhere on his todo
              list.

              > Anyway, keep up the great work.  There's a learning
              > curve to everything. The approach you have is elegant and innovative.

              Amen. It is good to know that Lynn is carrying the torch forward and
              keeping APRS current and relevant with APRSISCE!.

              Bob, WB4APR
            • na4it
              I do run APRSIS32 on an RF connection, but the radio doesn t allow you to download the map tiles when zooming in / moving around.. (:-0
              Message 6 of 7 , Mar 31, 2012
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                I do run APRSIS32 on an RF connection, but the radio doesn't allow you to download the map tiles when zooming in / moving around.. (:-0
              • Fred Hillhouse
                If you are running only an RF system, it won t download tiles. You an internet connection for that. I run only an RF system as well and I downloaded the tiles
                Message 7 of 7 , Apr 2, 2012
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                  If you are running only an RF system, it won't download tiles. You an internet connection for that.
                   
                  I run only an RF system as well and I downloaded the tiles and moved them to the systems that I run APRSISCE and APRSIS32 with.
                   
                  Best regards,
                  Fred, N7FMH
                   


                  From: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of na4it
                  Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 14:14
                  To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [aprsisce] Re: Thoughts / question on xml file

                   

                  I do run APRSIS32 on an RF connection, but the radio doesn't allow you to download the map tiles when zooming in / moving around.. (:-0

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