RE: [aprsisce] Re-purpose old phones, WAS: WINE - Windows Emulator for Android?
Okay, I re-read my post below and I don’t mention the radio/TNC combination but I have recently in other posts.
From: email@example.com [mailto: firstname.lastname@example.org ] On Behalf Of Fred Hillhouse Jr
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: [aprsisce] Re-purpose old phones, WAS: WINE - Windows Emulator for Android?
“Has anyone on the list done a connection like this to a radio that does not have a built in TNC?”
Not sure if you read my post below but yes with an older GE Phoenix connected to an OT2. I have also used a T2-301 with just the Tilt.
From: email@example.com [mailto: firstname.lastname@example.org ] On Behalf Of Lee D Bengston
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Re-purpose old phones, WAS: WINE - Windows Emulator for Android?
Hmm, it just dawned on me that one could pick up a used phone like this and combine it with a small inexpensive KISS capable TNC (like one of the newer openTrackers) and a bluetooth serial adapter. This setup could be added to an existing non-APRS mobile radio that has a packet port.
In my case it would replace both the GPS and the old Tiny-track II and would provide more functionality than a Yag Tracker at less cost. I'm really only looking at an RF mobile enhancement, so I wouldn't need cell service or WIFI - just need bluetooth to serial to work. Has anyone on the list done a connection like this to a radio that does not have a built in TNC?
Lee - K5DAT
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred Hillhouse <fmhillhouse@...> wrote:
I picked up my HTC Tilt for $10 at a local hamfest. EBay has them for more. I am using the internal Bluetooth radio to connect to a Bluetooth module (Roving Networks) attached to my OT2.
My docking station is a simple USB cable plugged into a USB to 12V vehicle adapter. For updating APRSISCE, the same USB cable plugs into my desktop running MS ActiveSync. But the update can be done by removing the uSD card and loading in an appropriate slot at my desktop. That is also a great way to get tiles on the uSD card.
Personally, the Tilt BT radio and the WiFi radio conflict on my device. Others have not experienced this that I am aware of. In theory, if the Tilt was connected to a TNC via BT and the internet via WiFi, it will make for a sweet IGate.
Since the "phone" would get re-purpose with a TNC/radio, I have no problem thinking about a hard wire between the phone and TNC and WiFi to a network. So...
Currently, I am looking at using the ExtUSB port for a wired RS232 port (for TNC) and WiFi for connecting to my network. I have read about success for those that have loaded Android on the Tilt but not WinMo. I suspect it will work but I need to build the cable. I will power the Tilt through the connector as well. SparkFun has a ExtUSB PCB (actually 2 options).
I guess we can agree to disagree. I see (almost) everything I want to see with Aprisce and the log files. So we can agree to disagree. Maybe you can post a "Wish list" of exactly what you would like. With all the new features that have been added, I am very pleased. When was the last time you tried the Development release of Aprisce?
--- In email@example.com, "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@...> wrote:
> > Now why would I want to downgrade from a wonderful graphics
> > display, with GPS, Maps, Icons, etc,etc..... To old school
> > text display? I love Aprisce!
> It's not a downgrade. It's an enhancement. I find that more often than
> not, I am more interested in looking at tabular groupings of APRS data than
> just staring at a map and having to mouse around clicking at 300 or more
> local symbols like turning over rocks looking for crawdads.
> The organization and manipulation of TABULAR data is a very valuable
> capability in addition to a map. I like to look at:
> Stations sorted by distance,
> Stations sorted by callsign
> Stations sorted by symbol (Mobiles or Igates etc
> Stations sorted by type (all the EX or digis etc)
> Radio types
> Comment TEXT
> And any of the other dozens of categories of APRS data.
> Only by seeing all stations of the same dimension at once in tabular format
> can I get the big picture at a glance. Then if I want to see where they are
> distributed, I might go mouse around on the map a bit. I generally cannot
> get a good overall real-time grasp of APRS data on the air by looking at
> maps and clicking at little clouds.
> There are just too many icons not really doing anything. Just sitting
> there. And without the 8 color attributes in the original APRS, I cannot
> even tell by looking without clicking on each one.
> I get my mind's eye grasp of what people are doing at a glance by looking at
> and manipulating rows and columns of data. APRS data was intended to reveal
> everything about what is happening on the air. Not just a one dimensional
> symbol on a map. That is the problem with most follow-on APRS software, it
> focuses on the map instead of the dozens of other dimensions of data.
> I was shocked when APRSISCE, our latest great hope of getting beyond UIview,
> omits such a valuable window on the world of these other APRS fundamental
> > I can use my D7A if I want basic text information.
> That seems strange. To have to carry the power of APRSISCE in hand, and yet
> have to also carry a 14 year old radio just to get an easy tabular look at
> the data because APRSISCE has only a map based GUI.
> Bob, WB4APR