Re: [apologetics and theology] Harry Potter
- IW said:
"I am saying that if a person makes a claim of faith and denies
her/his work has satanic connections they should be believed unless
--are we ourselves always the best judge of what we do or say?
"I do not generally call my fellow Xians liars
--I wasn't calling her a liar.
"... or how it encourages witchcraft. Ridiculous. There is absolutely
no basis for this."
--there seems to be no real, hard, tangible evidence that it does not.
"OOC, have you actually read the series?"
--no, but it does not take long into each story to realize that they
do not in some way glorify Christ but instead glorify man's (and
children's) pursuit of power over others and even over overt evil.
"Feel free to point out any action she has taken to validate
accusations that her books are morally repugnant and /or satanistic in
content. Xians waste an awful lot of time looking for devils where
they are not and ignoring the ones that are."
--Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not attacking the woman. I am
however exercising the right we all have as her brothers and sisters
in the Lord to critique another Christian's public declaration of a
seeming fear or lack of desire to be identified with Christ in their
work and public life. Actually the only 'devil' I'm concerned with is
this pervasive attitude among many Christians here in the West which
seems to have forgotten that we have been Saved for God's glory. We
are to be the salt and light of the earth; to influence it for
Christ's benefit and to point others to Christ. She is a public and
very influential figure and we fellow Christians have the right and
authority to critique, with love and grace, the public works and
actions of anyone who calls themselves a fellow Christian. Paul
called us to not judge those outside the Church but think of the
many, many blunt calls Paul, Peter, James and John gave us all in
their letters to be transformed into Christ's image and righteousness
in all that we do and say. We are called to encourage and exhort each
other so that we will live more and more for Christ. If Ms. Rowlings
had never stated to be a Christian then there would be no real issue
here. Imagine how much more we would all be lifting up Christ's name
in our work and personal lives if we all desired more than we do, to
encourage and exhort each other to an ever increasing submission to
Christ's own plans for us. Everything we do and say is to be for His
benefit and for His ongoing Plan of Salvation in the world. We have
Eternal Life and all the benefits of His Love and Grace but the lost
do not. There is very little time and even our time belongs to Him
for His purposes. Paul stated that "I am not ashamed of the
gospel..." I fear that many of us do not see the significance of Ms.
Rowling's statement since many of us, who have even been bought by
Christ's own suffering, find it hard to recognize this very attitude
within ourselves and I include myself. It seems that many of us have
lost that understanding of just how immense and unfathomable our work
for Christ is.
William Barclay wrote, "It is told of J.P. Mahaffy, the famous
scholar and man of the world from Trinity College, Dublin, that when
he was asked if he was a Christian, his answer was: 'Yes, but not
offensively so.' He meant that he did not allow his Christianity to
interfere with the society he kept and the pleasure he loved" (The
Gospel of Matthew, vol. 1, rev. ed. [Philadelphia: Westminster,
1975], p. 391). But that's not what Christianity is. Those who follow
Jesus Christ become more and more like Him.
Paul stated in 2 Cor. 5:14 "For Christ's love compels us, because we
are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. 15 And
he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for
themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again."
--Should we not also be compelled to joyfully bear His beautiful
Name? If we publicly claim to love Christ then the world will attach
Christ's name to us in some way and if we really are Saved then His
name is written all over us. We then have the immeasurable privilege
and also the command to boldly and fearlessly show Christ's life
within us to the world regardless of the cost. I am saddened to see
many like Ms. Rowling have a fire and passion to lead others to a few
moments of some sort of escape from this crazy world with their
talents and resources yet seem afraid to just as passionately write
or talk about their Saviour; the One they owe everything to. Would
glorifying Christ in her work or public statements in some obvious
way have ruined her book sales and her incredible success? Probably;
but isn't what He has done for us worth it? I myself would probably
be less successful in the world and poorer if I proclaimed Christ's
love more joyfully and boldly than I do with the people in my life.
Don't be successful, be SIGNIFICANT for Christ.
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Tanggal Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:09:31 -0000 Penulis "Matt B."
<mattbeme3@...> menulis email dengan judul Re: [apologetics and
theology] Harry Potter seperti tertera di bawah ini:
>IW said:Unless she is a gibbering idiot or a mental midget I am certain
>"I am saying that if a person makes a claim of faith and denies
>her/his work has satanic connections they should be believed unless
>--are we ourselves always the best judge of what we do or say?
that she has both the mental faculties and intelligence to determine
whether her work, a product of her mind, is satanic or not.
This is not a matter of confused perception like a accident victim
might possess but a factual statement she can make based on what SHE
intended and what she believes. The idea that someone would then turn
around and say, ¨Well, you may not be the best judge of your own
intentions¨ is insulting and patronizing to say the least.
>You implied it.
>"I do not generally call my fellow Xians liars
>--I wasn't calling her a liar.
>"... or how it encourages witchcraft. Ridiculous. There is absolutelyWell your logic is dazzling. This is the logical fallacy known as ¨From
>no basis for this."
>--there seems to be no real, hard, tangible evidence that it does not.
ignorance.¨ Well, there is no evidence X is false so it must be true.
>What!? Ok, so all books have to glorify Christ? So Tolkiens writings,
>"OOC, have you actually read the series?"
>--no, but it does not take long into each story to realize that they
>do not in some way glorify Christ but instead glorify man's (and
>children's) pursuit of power over others and even over overt evil.
Stephen Laweadś writings (Xians all) should be blacklisted? Are we
going back to witchhunts and bookburnings? Are we then not supposed to
read books that do not glorify Christ - IOW, all non-xian fiction is
banned? As for your statement
¨instead glorify man's (and children's) pursuit of power over others
and even over overt evil¨
What utter and total unmitigated balderdash. The main character is
generous, kind, and self-sacrificing. <sarcasm>Wouldn´t want that as a
hero figure would we eh? </sarcasm> There is no ¨pursuit of power¨ as
you might describe - i suggest you read the books.
>Ok - but I am puzzled. If I say, ¨I am a Xian. I am a believer. I
>--Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not attacking the woman. I am
>however exercising the right we all have as her brothers and sisters
>in the Lord to critique another Christian's public declaration of a
>seeming fear or lack of desire to be identified with Christ in their
>work and public life.
attend Church.¨ Well, I have just made a public declaration of my
Faith. That is not exactly hiding it. And while it might be rather
nice/good of her to be even more open about her faith - not everyone in
the public eye has that kind of moxy. I do not condemn her because I do
not know her motivations.
She is a public and
>very influential figureWell, now the series are finished lets see what she says or does next?
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