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  • Shaun Johnson
    Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I m the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 2, 2011
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      Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I'm the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African Butterfly fish) when the owner and I started talking about plants. Well, he was so impressed at the pictures of my aquarium that he offered me more plants. Now since they were free, how could I turn them down. BUT I got them, got home... then realized I have NO IDEA what kind of plants these are. LOL.  He gave me 5 of the green ones and 3 of the purple/green ones....

      Does anyone have any idea or know what they (attached pics) are? (The green one looks like it's related to a bacopa but I'm about 85% sure it's not one). Also, I wanted to know if they were truly aquatic or not. 

      -Shaun




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    • Larry Vires
      I think you re correct about the first being bacopa, but I m not an expert.  The second plant is what is commonly sold as red crinkle on wholesale lists. 
      Message 2 of 6 , Apr 2, 2011
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        I think you're correct about the first being bacopa, but I'm not an expert.  The second plant is what is commonly sold as "red crinkle" on wholesale lists.  I tried it a couple times about 15 years ago and never could keep it alive in a tank.  I'm fairly positive it is not a true aquatic as it always just turned to mush after a couple weeks and only ever kept one alive by planting it in a pot on the window sill.

        Lary

        --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...> wrote:

        From: Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...>
        Subject: [anubiasdesign] NTP (Name these plants): What kind of plants ARE these??
        To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 7:19 AM

        Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I'm the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African Butterfly fish) when the owner and I started talking about plants. Well, he was so impressed at the pictures of my aquarium that he offered me more plants. Now since they were free, how could I turn them down. BUT I got them, got home... then realized I have NO IDEA what kind of plants these are. LOL.  He gave me 5 of the green ones and 3 of the purple/green ones....

        Does anyone have any idea or know what they (attached pics) are? (The green one looks like it's related to a bacopa but I'm about 85% sure it's not one). Also, I wanted to know if they were truly aquatic or not. 

        -Shaun




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      • Bailin Shaw
        First plant is Bacopa monnieri, which is a true aquatic. The second is what is commonly sold as purple waffle and is a Bog plant. It does well around ponds.
        Message 3 of 6 , Apr 2, 2011
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          First plant is Bacopa monnieri, which is a true aquatic.  The second is what is commonly sold as purple waffle and is a Bog plant.  It does well around ponds.


          To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
          From: pleco_breeder@...
          Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 04:52:17 -0700
          Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] NTP (Name these plants): What kind of plants ARE these??

          I think you're correct about the first being bacopa, but I'm not an expert.  The second plant is what is commonly sold as "red crinkle" on wholesale lists.  I tried it a couple times about 15 years ago and never could keep it alive in a tank.  I'm fairly positive it is not a true aquatic as it always just turned to mush after a couple weeks and only ever kept one alive by planting it in a pot on the window sill.

          Lary

          --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...> wrote:

          From: Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...>
          Subject: [anubiasdesign] NTP (Name these plants): What kind of plants ARE these??
          To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 7:19 AM

          Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I'm the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African Butterfly fish) when the owner and I started talking about plants. Well, he was so impressed at the pictures of my aquarium that he offered me more plants. Now since they were free, how could I turn them down. BUT I got them, got home... then realized I have NO IDEA what kind of plants these are. LOL.  He gave me 5 of the green ones and 3 of the purple/green ones....

          Does anyone have any idea or know what they (attached pics) are? (The green one looks like it's related to a bacopa but I'm about 85% sure it's not one). Also, I wanted to know if they were truly aquatic or not. 

          -Shaun




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        • Shaun Johnson
          Looking at the google images, Bailin is right on the money (thanks). On a side note, I m kinda proud of myself by noticing the bacopa. :) The purple waffle
          Message 4 of 6 , Apr 2, 2011
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            Looking at the google images, Bailin is right on the money (thanks). On a side note, I'm kinda proud of myself by noticing the bacopa. :) 
            The purple waffle looks BEAUTIFUL inside my tank BUT I'll probably pull it out soon. Looks like a good aquatic substitute for it would be Alternanthera reineckii v. “Rosaefolia”, or Alternanthera reineckii v. “Lilacina” 

            MARK: Getting any of these in anytime in the near future??  :)



            On Apr 2, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Bailin Shaw wrote:

             

            First plant is Bacopa monnieri, which is a true aquatic.  The second is what is commonly sold as purple waffle and is a Bog plant.  It does well around ponds.


            To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
            From: pleco_breeder@...
            Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 04:52:17 -0700
            Subject: Re: [anubiasdesign] NTP (Name these plants): What kind of plants ARE these??

            I think you're correct about the first being bacopa, but I'm not an expert.  The second plant is what is commonly sold as "red crinkle" on wholesale lists.  I tried it a couple times about 15 years ago and never could keep it alive in a tank.  I'm fairly positive it is not a true aquatic as it always just turned to mush after a couple weeks and only ever kept one alive by planting it in a pot on the window sill.

            Lary

            --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...> wrote:

            From: Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...>
            Subject: [anubiasdesign] NTP (Name these plants): What kind of plants ARE these??
            To: anubiasdesign@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 7:19 AM

            Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I'm the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African Butterfly fish) when the owner and I started talking about plants. Well, he was so impressed at the pictures of my aquarium that he offered me more plants. Now since they were free, how could I turn them down. BUT I got them, got home... then realized I have NO IDEA what kind of plants these are. LOL.  He gave me 5 of the green ones and 3 of the purple/green ones....

            Does anyone have any idea or know what they (attached pics) are? (The green one looks like it's related to a bacopa but I'm about 85% sure it's not one). Also, I wanted to know if they were truly aquatic or not. 

            -Shaun



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          • Gary Youhas
            Colorful. Weeds? lol Your supplier should know or their supplier. Don t buy plants from Pet Smart. At least the one here sells plants that don t grow or
            Message 5 of 6 , Apr 2, 2011
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              Colorful. Weeds? lol Your supplier should know or their supplier. Don't buy plants from Pet Smart. At least the one here sells plants that don't grow or survive.

              On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Shaun Johnson <shaun.johnson2007@...> wrote:
              Happy POST April fools day: Ok, so maybe I'm the april fool but I was at my LFS stocking up on crickets and guppies (for my purple spotted gudgeon and African Butterfly fish) when the owner and I started talking about plants. Well, he was so impressed at the pictures of my aquarium that he offered me more plants. Now since they were free, how could I turn them down. BUT I got them, got home... then realized I have NO IDEA what kind of plants these are. LOL.  He gave me 5 of the green ones and 3 of the purple/green ones....

              Does anyone have any idea or know what they (attached pics) are? (The green one looks like it's related to a bacopa but I'm about 85% sure it's not one). Also, I wanted to know if they were truly aquatic or not. 

              -Shaun




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              Shaun, I for some reason can t see any photos but based on what others have replied with here is some information. Re the bog plants - (here at
              Message 6 of 6 , Apr 3, 2011
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                Shaun,

                I for some reason can't see any photos but based on what others have replied with here is some information. Re the bog plants - (here at petsmart/petland they sell them to customers who do not know what they are).... they die slowly, and pollute the water while doing so.

                A typical story, lol (here in NYC at petland petsmart they often sell more of these marsh/bog plants then true aquatics to the unsuspecting). (and worse - true land plants)


                http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide.php

                http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide_viewer.php?id=167


                Purple waffle
                Hemigraphis exotica

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                Family: Acanthaceae
                Region: Unknown

                Care
                Not a true aquarium plant. It will rot, die and pollute your tank.

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                On a recent trip to a local aquarium shop, the owner sold me a purple waffle. I got it home, checked it out on Plantgeek.com and found that it was not a true aquatic plant and that it will eventually rot, die and pollute my tank. Needless to say, I took it back and explained what I read. He disagreed with me and said they were fine in aquariums but I objected as I read they were bog plants and he accepted the return.

                Has anyone ever had any luck with purple waffles or was I right in insisting on a return. He claims he has been selling them for years and that I shouldn't trust what I read on the internet (I was laughing on the inside when he said that!)


                Re: Purple Waffle
                Fri, March 16, 2007 - 9:35 PM
                Waffle plants as you read, are not aquatic plants, they are bog plants, the roots are basically aquatic but the leaves are not, like any bog plant they will survive for a period of time submersed, but they will not grow, eventually they will disentigrate and you'll have dead leaves flowing around in your tank or it will just turn to mush which is what usually happens.

                The guy at the LFS was dead wrong, Sheesh were do they hire these guys from? Are there no good fish heads left in aquariums shops anymore? I was in a pet shop today and overheard the worst advice I have heard in a long time coming from one of the "aquatic specialist", so its not just you area , its here too.


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                http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/intro_aquarium_plants.php

                There are a wide variety of plants for sale in aquarium stores and it is important to learn a little bit about the different types available. Occasionally non-aquatic plants are sold for aquarium use and these species should be avoided.

                Also to be avoided are any red or purple colored plants These species require very bright light and will often die or revert to green coloration inside the average aquarium. It is also important to realize that many aquarium plants (bog plants) only spend part of their life underwater. They will try to grow above the water (emersed growth) and can get quite big outside the tank. Fortunately, many of these plants only require occasional trimming to keep them under water.


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                So one has to (if you want to keep them alive) treat them as they live in nature - part submersed (rainy season) and part emersed) or allow them to grow up and out of the water line as in the river tanks - where these plants are potted near the water line and allowed to grow out). (not worth the trouble in my humble opinion) (I used to have terrariums with part water part land so on - the purple waffle is great for those).


                (Old Link but Karen Randall on this old thread)

                http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Plants/bog-plants.html


                Sometimes when you buy plants, they grow very well for several weeks/months and then they die for no reason. One of the causes of this is that these plants could be marsh plants. These plants would only grow under water for a period of time.

                What if you really want these plants ? According to Dennerle's System for a problem-free aquarium, you can grow them under water for a period of time. After that, they have to be removed and grown emersed (part of the plants are outside of the water) before being put back under the water.

                The book lists the time period that you can grow them under
                the water but it does not mentioned how long they should be grown emersed before putting them back under the water (Has anybody had any experiences doing this ?)
















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