839Re: [Antonin Artaud] Re: "What is an Artaudian"?
- Aug 6, 2007Sorry for my English, "I use the international language, Wrong-English".
Be careful about Deleuxe-Guattari versus Artaud, may be that Body without Organs (BWO) of Deleuze-Guattari has nothing to have with Artaud! These authors studied Artaud likes a schizophrenic, but Artaud don't have had this enthomological label by his "mad"cine-men! Deleuze-Guattari have studied BWO from psychanalysis and marxism points of view, but Artaud said "NO!" to both. Also be careful about psychiatric or lacanian lecture of Artaud: Artaud is to be read as a human being, only, and not as a madman... "Being an Artaudian is perhaps being simply human". For me, with BWO Artaud said only that, to understand Humanity, it is necessary to abandon the biological analogy of sex/Freud and hungry/Marx. Hungry is metaphor of "all organs" and includes sex. To understand BWO it is a long way, but a key is the love's history of Peter Abelard-emasculated and Heloise, played by Artaud in "Le Sexe en Verre ou La Vitre d'Amour", of 1925.
The death pulsion is not "in" man, it is out; the man is only Eros, poieseis, criativity in a dynamic culture or a amorphous matter portion in a cristalized one.
michael david <smout_uk@...> escreveu:
Your last statement is exactly
right......'the intensity of merely walking across a
room.' That's IT, the Artaudian experience: being
mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually
alert to the intense, fleeting meaning of each and
every moment you INHABIT.
--- Ruana <x_tra2007@...> wrote:
> I feel that the Artaudian is the revealer of his ownDeleuzian-becoming-you-becoming-me-us-becoming-other-becoming-them.
> Utopia at every moment of the pains that being alive
> imply. Being an Artaudian is perhaps being simply
> harshunclear@... wrote:
> The Deleuzo-Guattarian reading of Artaud is great,
> yes, but I feel that this focus on the body and the
> cruelty of organs ("what organ more cruel than the
> heart, etc")Â can only be comprehended in a truly
> schizophrenic experience.Â The idea that through
> cosmic cruelty one will reveal some hidden reality
> is too surrealist, I think-- It might be too naive.
> To learn to see gesticulations as hieroglyphs, to
> feel the condition of the body in the way Artaud
> speaks, the lengths he goes to stress these, his
> schizophrenic mythologies and his poetics-- These
> can most likely only be understood through
> "I would like to write a book that would drive men
> mad"--Â How, then, to actually put this theater,
> with its language of cruelty, of gestures, where
> speech takes on the speech of dreams-- How can
> anyone really pull this off?
> Perhaps to be Artaudian is to realize that the
> Theatre of Cruelty is something that always
> surpasses our attempts at realizing it...
> What I say:Â You cannot expect anyone to apply
> Artaudian ideas in theater that HAS NOT smelled
> burnt bomb, seen cruelty and felt body nausea: You
> have to see noses and limbs floating in space, see
> human beings in their daily movements as
> hieroglyphic imprints of a global nausea.Â
> The precise language of gestures and movements--
> This can only be truly realized through Artaudian
> principles by those who can comprehend the intensity
> of merely walking across a room.
> - SP Conrad -
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c_peade <skullmac@...>
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 6:30 am
> Subject: [Antonin Artaud] Re: "What is an
> To be or not to be Artaudian is the question. A
> question not of intrigue but naÃ¯vetÃ©.
> The link between Artaud and Lacan -(-whom Artaud
> described as filthy and vile amongst
> other things-)-, that is to say, the relation
> connecting them and THE REALity of THIS
> WORLD and THE WORD IMPRISONED BY PAST-S.
> An Artaudian is an idealist whose existence is a
> fusion of all sensibilities and refinements
> beyond what we think we know; like the
> (im)possibility of quantum physics embodied in
> Is it possible that in order to be Artaudian one
> loves life more than life itself. That is not to
> say to be Artaudian is to simply die or seek it in
> death. To be Artaudian is to love life
> BEYOND ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ELSE INCLUDING LIFE
> AND DEATH ITSELF. What IT IS
> TO BE Artaudian IS to love BEYOND even LOVE or at
> least mere language.
> TO BE Artaudian IS BEING BECOMING.
> TO BE Artaudian IS TO BE Lacanian or Deleuzian or
>=== message truncated ===
> Today the contemporary "we" deal with our means to
> liberation from the illusions of
> freedom by this very medium â cyberspace; a
> virtual reality Artaud,-(- I trust and hope-)-,
> would have thought was for THE LIVING DEAD â US,
> on the internet "surfing" a
> misinformation highway of white noise and bored
> consciousness borne from the fruits of
> capitalisms curiousness. A curiousity of appalling
> grammar and spelling due to the
> modified velocity of communication.
> This solecism is so far removed from THE TRUE SPACE
> for THE SOUL to FIND JOY and SELF-
> REALization. It couldn't be further. It could
> The pleasure and "illness" of the flesh is
> exacerbated on account of its subsequent
> ALIENation inscribed in a body screwed down and
> shackled by OURSELVES to objects with
> our fingers' repetition typing and CONJURING THIS
> LANGUAGE of THESE WORDS. From this,
> a consciousness imprisoned in a virtual reality, a
> cyberspace with misinformation highways
> to "surf" white noise, bored and borne from the
> fruits of capitalisms curiousness. A
> solecistic curiosity conceived from the modified
> velocity of communication. Dig?
> Parlez-vous code-fuckerâ¦
> ESCAPE INDEED ESCAPE like the first line of the
> Taodejing for A MASS of BEINGS who are
> representatives of a bourgeois CULTure â a
> dubious circle of Initiates whose elitist, hollow,
> false beliefs and sordid influence might well FIND
> Artaud RETCHING at its WRETCHEDNESS.
> A TRUE MEANING of FREEdom as Artaud advocated is in
> a PURE THEATRE or
> PERFORMANCE. This is what I think, feel and
> Theatre or performance like the knights that claim
> drugs, under necessary conditions of
> caution and EXPERIMENTation are inseparable from
> the deployment of planes where
> BECOMINGS of the impossible BECOME POSSIBLE.
> The imperceptible itself becomes NECESSARILY
> perceived as MOLECULAR perception,
> arriving at holes - (including wormholes) in the
> fabric of the social dimensions, micro-
> intetrvals between matters, colours and sounds
> engulfing lines of flight, transparency and
> The invisible becoming visible and the visible
> vanishing to invisibility and objects
> disappear and others appear like magic and alchemy
> in a PLAY between absence present
> and absent presence with performer-becoming-shaman.
> Such alchemical magic IS
> DESIREd in the Holy Theatre of English director
> Peter Brook, Lin Hixson in the United States
> with Goat Island or Romeo Castelluci in Italy with
> Societas Rafaello Sanzio.
> THE BODY through its ENERGY of sheer PERFORMANCE
> PRESENCE TRANSFORMS
> MOLECULARLY WITH THE AUDIENCE from one body to
> an-other's into a HEIGHTENED
> STATE , IMPELLING US to SEE OURSELVES AS WE REALLY
> ARE, BEYOND THIS, THE SOCIAL
> FUGUE. In an ECSTATIC TRANCE, US, TOGETHER BEGIN
> MAKING THE MASKS FALL, in order
> to REVEAL OUR COLLECTIVE unconscious â a HIDDEN
> PSYCHE divulging OUR WORLD's LIES,
> THE REALity of THIS WORLD and its aimlessness,
> meanness and even two-facedness WE
> shake off THE STIFLING, MATERIAL DULLness
> overcoming THE SENSES clearest testimony
> and EXPOSE THE DARK POWERS AND EVIL, CRUELTY of OUR
> NATURE in order to BE BEYOND
> THIS MARASMUS like OUR THEATRES OF WARS such as the
> CIRCUS MAXIMUS of IRAQ WE
> HAVE CREATED or REAL TRUE To LIFE Hollywood
> blockbusters like (9)11th September
> Without THIS BEING,-BECOMING-, a TOTAL
> PHYSIOLOGICAL REVOLuTion then NOTHING
> CAN BE CHANGED. And it is through the PURIFYING
> PLAGUE of a THEATRE PERFORMANCE's
> CATHARTIC TRANSFORMATION; THIS, ITS sheer PRESENCE
> of MOLECUAR ENERGY within
> SPACEs that THIS WILL take PLACE.
> Our addictions, whether to drugs, materialism or
> pleasure seeking activities such as the
> excesses of capitalism's needless consumerism and
> its wide screen plasma television
> screen sets, internet "surfing" "entertainment",
> Hollywood blockbusters, window
> shopping-retail therapy or extreme sports are but a
> veil to THE VOID within and this even
> includes romantic LOVE. That is not to say I am not
> FREE of BEING guilty by indulging in
> such THINGS.
> Happiness is merely the avoidance of TRUTH and the
> deferral of THE KNOWLEDGE a gaping
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