Re: 2004 and Religions
- There are a lot of christian leaders who share un-inspired
It is written that to whom much is given, much is required.
If a person truely does not have a conviction that the gospel is
real, it would be unjust for God to condemn them. But they will not
receive everything that a devout servant does. We clearly see that we
lay up treasures in heaven.
Many religious people think that when it says that every man has been
given the measure of faith, they think that means in the whole world.
But it also says not every man has faith.
Faith comes by hearing, so the ones who have been given a measure of
faith are the group of people who have heard.
It says God has mercy on the ignorant. If someone genuinely has not
received a personal revelation of Jesus, God would judge them with
Many people grow up hearing and still have no personal witness within.
Many are driven away from the household of God by strict mean
spirited religious people, some refuse to follow because they do not
understand the free gift, and do not want to walk the tight rope
image the have of salvation.
When the gospel is presented well, it is understood that the one who
begins the work in us, empowers it to continue to the very end; not
Actually, the truth is so easy and simple it is hard to believe, it
takes the presence of the Spirit to make it real.
The word KISS can be used to remind us; Keep It Simple Stupid.
no that is not intended to be dirrected to anyone here, it is a way
we can remind our own self not to depart from the simplicity in
I want to try to move off this topic, as it is not the forum of this
I have a group called Real Christians Real Ufo's at
We should take this conversation of there. Even though I am the
moderator of this group, I realize people didn't join this group to
read religious discussions. As much as I enjoy them, I need to
concider the group members as a whole.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org,
> Very Good points you have made. Yes it does make a person wonderwhat is to
> be expected of people (by God) who have simply not heard the storyof Jesus at
> all, or the Gospel, or even heard of (or seen) the Christian Bible,for that
> matter. Surely they could not be held accountable for notincluding Jesus in
> their prayers. Surely they would be saved, regardless.entire world
> I personally believe that MOST (say 97%) of the people in the
> will, at some point, learn about the Christian Bible and about thestory of
> Jesus, someway, somehow. It is stated in prophecy and also in theBible (from
> what I have understood from various theologians--I'm sure it's inthere, I just
> don't happen to know exactly where!) that BEFORE the really MAJORDESTRUCTIONS
> and KILLINGS in the End-Times comes, the "Gospel" of Jesus willhave been
> preached, finally, to the entire world. This is no doubt possiblebecause of the
> Internet, and it's various language translators, and so on. Itdoes say in
> scripture that there will be "seven-fold" learning in the end-of-days, and that
> there will be elect people to help make sure the message of Jesusis spread
> totally as far as it can possibly go.parts of the
> So, if there is still a small percent of folks on totally remote
> world, I do believe that they will be saved, even if they don'tknow about
> Jesus, and they will be getting all the benefits just like the mostdevout and
> pious Christian that there is!it all
> Maurice; If I'm wrong on this, let us know. But I believe I got
> Hope this helps,
> Rick Crandall
> In a message dated 11/30/03 7:37:28 AM Central Standard Time,
> ek.adams@v... writes:
> > > It looks to me that God will not save anyone that doesn't at
> > INCLUDEindividual? Or
> > > the name of Jesus in their prayers.
> > What about people that don't even know anything about that
> > that simply think he was was just another person like any otheris? And who
> > requires 'saving'?ANY PEOPLE
> > > I DO BELIEVE THAT ONE RELIGION MUST NOT CRITICIZE OR DISLIKE
> > WHONOTICE that
> > > ARE OF ANOTHER RELIGION.
> > What if you are spiritual and not religious in any way?
> > > If you were God, wouldn't you be mad at humans who DID NOT
> > Jesussimply lead
> > > was a Messiah, and he DIED for OUR BENEFIT.
> > Not if you're compassionate and understanding of people that
> > good lives.mean in teh
> > > It may well have actually been
> > > GOD HIMSELF who died for us.
> > That would kind of go against common sense. <g> Well unless you
> > context that every person has a soul and that each soul iscomposed of that
> > source, in which case a Jewish political rebel thousands of yearsago would
> > be as much a part of God as any other woudl be.well by God,
> > > Any people who didn't seem to notice the
> > > importance of what Jesus did would probably not be liked too
> > don't youhave
> > > think?
> > Or perhaps all that matters is that you treat others as you would
> > yourself treated in that situation.
> > www.survivalafterdeath.org
> > www.cfpf.org.uk
> > - Eric
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- very good, we could even copy and paste this over there to continue it, I am probably about done anyway though, since I have my hands full with posting on my other sites. I do not mind answering private e-mails on the subject of faith, providing they are short messages and not mean spirited. I mention they should be short, as I have an attention problem, and only read short bits at a time.
I will do my best to answer any questions, or find someone wh knows the answers I may lack.