Oh brother! Here we go again! By innocent I simply mean this......

There are people who do not like her, right? True, some do not
because she is/was with Leonardo. Frankly, while I think he is a good
actor I could not care less who he dates. There are also people who
have other reasons not to like her. The whole point of this
club/group is just for people who do not like her to have a place to
rant, so to speak. Just to get it off their chests and talk about it
with people who share the same sentiments. But it is not a place for
people to post, whether as a "joke" or not, anything related to how
to murder this woman!(Though nothing is funny about murder!) Having a
reason for disliking her and posting messages discussing ways to kill
her are really quite opposite things, one is allowed the other is a
bit too extreme. To be sure, dislike and hate are not entirely the
same, either. And while this group is for people who dislike her, I
will not tolerate posts that allude to outright hate, be it as a so-
called joke or not. There are some sick people out there who would
seriously consider the type of thing mentioned in that post, and I do
not want that element in this group. So, hey, I may not like her, for
reasons that are my own, but never would I ever even think to make
such harsh remarks about her or anyone else! So while innocence is an
illusion, hate is wrong flat out and hate will not be tolerated in
this group. In the past, as often as time has permitted, I and other
moderators have even deleted any posts that use excessive language
when referring to her. We try to keep this group from going that far.
If my letting people know that such extremes will not be allowed is
bothering you, I am sorry. But whether we choose to like her or not,
she is a human being like the rest of us, with good aspects as well
as faults, and I will not allow anyone to come in here and post
anything about murdering her! I do not see that as anything to get
angry over. ::confused:: And, if it is about the fact I am just
trying to prevent any big arguments in this club you are upset over,
I apologize, yet stand by it. I am not angry at anyone for their
opinions about Gisele, or this group for that matter. So none of this
is personal. I have just seen too many clubs get so crammed with
posts agruing over things that I just decided not to let that happen
here. If people getting together to discuss why they dislike her
bothers you, I am sorry. But people have different opinions, and that
is just the opinion of those who join this group. Simple as that. In
fact, you tell me if you EVER see anyone from this group going into a
pro-Gisele club only to point out her faults, and I will go apologize
for that and ask them to leave this group, as I do not approve of
that type of activity.

As a side note - I have talked this over with the moderators, and we
have decided for the time being, only a trial period mind you, that
we will have to approve every message sent through this group. This
is not to prevent fans of hers from joining or posting, this is ALL
about the first issue mentioned above.


P.S. I believe you said in a trial the judge is guilty? A judge is
NOT always guilty of the crime being tried. There CAN be a trial, say
for murder, in which the judge has never killed anyone. Why is this
so hard for people to understand? lol Anyway, found this, thought you
might enjoy......


in·no·cence Pronunciation Key (n-sns)

Freedom from harmfulness; inoffensiveness.

Discussing reasons we do not like her = harmless.
Posting messages about killing her = harmful and offensive!

But thank you for taking the time to give us your well thought out
opinions. (NOT meant in a sarcastic way!) Most people would just
say "oh bite me!" at least yours was more intelligent and thought
out. :)