Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] contact with the Divine
- --- Goffredo <goffredo@...> wrote:
> Hi Dottie. I'll try to answer your question on theHi Goffredo, I have not said that the Adversaries are
> powers of the
> Adversaries, who I agree with you,
> are without intelligence. Further, I think that
> intellectual processes
> need a human physical brain to operate.
> The Adversaries often try to use it as parasites.
without intelligence. I guess to continue I would have
to know what you mean by 'intelligence' to begin with.
Do you exclude the intelligence of other beings
because they lack a physical brain?
> Hmmm. Where does this statement that the AdversariesBut where did they go Goffredo? Do you think they can
> have lost all
> contact with the Divine come from? Is this a concept
> you have
> understood by Dr. Steiner?
> No, I believe that the Adversaries lost their
> contact with God
> when they decided to go their own way.
go outside of God? And I am wondering if any of this
contemplating you have done on this subject has a
reference anywhere in the Doctors work?
> still haveThey may or may not want to do this and as I
> the power of choice, they have lost it and can go in
> direction only. They want to establish an
> alternative creation
> for us; in order to do so, they need their followers
> as instruments and intermediaries.
contemplate they are at the will of the Universal laws
and some have gone astray and now lead others as well.
But they, from what I contemplate are still within the
Kingdom of God.
According to your standard it would seem that we as
well, human beings that is, have lost contact with God
through our brain just by the mere fact that we have
supposedly fallen. I would think the same would be for
our Adversaries. Do you include Lucifer in this
equation of having lost contact with the Divine? Or
I think the Doctor speaks on these things as far as
being led yada yada ya, however it if for discerning
minds to think through the various concepts he has
given us and what each of these various concepts serve
at any given point. But to put our Adversaries outside
of what is actuallly serving the star people to find
their 'I's can be misleading in my mind.
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