Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: occult lodges and islam
- Hi Uncle Taz,
I've got the lecture - will type the passage for you in a couple of minutes.
Here are more good links - and don't forget David Icke!
A list of several books and magazine articles, and some links pertaining to
Text copyright © 2002 Kerry Richardson
The Bohemian Grove and Other Retreats by G. William Domhoff, Harper & Row,
New York, 1974. Subtitled "A Study in Ruling-Class Cohesiveness," the 1974
hardbound edition of this book has a 59 page overview of the Bohemian Grove that is
only slightly dated and includes a 130 page "Appendix of Heavies," a table
analyzing the overlapping social club and policy-planning group memberships of
hundreds of prominent men in the fields of business, academia, and the media.
Domhoff, a professor of sociology and psychology, also presents the hypothesis
that there is an upper social class in the United States made up of owners and
managers of large corporations, and that this group's interests often
conflict with those of working people. Domhoff argues that this upper social class -
comprising one percent of the total population at most and controlling the
majority of the nation's privately held corporate wealth - directs the large
corporations and foundations, and dominates the federal government. Domhoff views
the Bohemian Club and its retreat at the Bohemian Grove as evidence that
supports his hypothesis, and he thinks such gatherings facilitate group
cohesiveness among the upper social class.
The Greatest Men's Party on Earth by John van der Zee, Harcourt Brace
Jovanovich, Inc., New York, 1974. Writer John van der Zee waited tables at the Grove
during the summer of 1972, the Bohemian Club's 100th year of existence. In his
1974 book subtitled "Inside the Bohemian Grove," he combines his first-hand
observations of camp life with extensive historical research and information
gathered from interviews of club members to present an overview of the club and
its encampment. Chapters include a discussion of the founding of the club by
newsmen and artistic types and the subsequent evolution of the group to a more
socially and politically prominent organization financed by those of greater
wealth, with visual and performing artists and musicians accepted as associate
members. Van der Zee writes about Herbert Hoover's role as an honored
participant in the annual encampments and describes and interprets a lakeside talk, a
variety show with famous performers, and the Grove's annual play that is
staged with considerable effort and expense at a large outdoor theater within the
Grove. Chapter nine, titled "The Bomb" recounts networking activities by Ernest
Lawrence at the Grove that resulted in financial support for his nuclear
physics research, and it tells of a secret meeting at the Grove during the second
world war where scientists made key decisions about how to develop the atomic
bomb. The Grove's summer encampments are still much as van der Zee describes,
although there are now some African-American members, and, as a result of
court decisions, there are now female workers.
Sex Work: Writings by Women in the Sex Industry edited by Frédérique
Delacoste and Priscilla Alexander, Cleis Press, San Francisco, 1987. This book is
still in print in its second edition. Among its contents are two first person
accounts of prostitution related to the Bohemian Grove gatherings. Although not an
official club activity, some of the rowdier campers have been known to "jump
the river." In Sonoma County where the Grove is located, it is common
knowledge that this type of activity occurs during the Grove encampments. In the early
1970's and the early 1980's there were two criminal actions directed against
operators of a bar and a motel in the summer resort community of Guerneville
upstream and across the river from the Grove. Both prosecutions foundered.
Quoted in the West Sonoma County Paper in 1983, Margo St. James noted that the top
level guys don't go to the local tavern, "They work through madams from the
City." The "low jinks" theatrical production at the 1991 encampment titled "The
Fun House" made fun of the topic, the plot being that two not-too-bright
takeover artists discover their first corporate raid brings them a brothel.
"Inside Bohemian Grove" by Philip Weiss, Spy magazine, November 1989. A
fifteen page article mentioning some sixty Bohemian clubbers by name, the author
prior to infiltrating the 1989 Bohemian Grove encampment anticipated writing a
satirical piece but found that truth was more pertinent than fiction. The
article features a map of the Grove and numerous small photos made inside the
encampment. 1989 was the year Ronald Reagan returned to the Grove encampment after
his two terms as U.S. president. Weiss was the first to report the presence at
the Grove of France's then Prime Minister Michel Rocard and includes a
summary with quotes from Rocard's lakeside talk. The article contains many
first-hand observations of life at the Grove and includes a sidebar compendium of jokes
told by Grove campers.
"Power Playground" by John van der Zee, Business Month magazine, July/August
1988. Van der Zee, author of The Greatest Men's Party on Earth, touches on the
business ambiance at the Grove. While the overt conducting of business is
discouraged at the Grove - "weaving spiders come not here" is a club motto -
introductions and contacts are made, issues can be discussed in privacy at the
camps, and the lakeside talks can be one of the country's most influential
forums. While there are categories of associate membership for artists and
performers, van der Zee notes that dues for regular members in 1988 could be as high as
$110 a month with an initiation fee of over $8,000, and a prospective member
could be on a waiting list for eighteen years. Van der Zee considers the Cave
Man camp, formerly the Bohemian Grove dwelling of Herbert Hoover and Richard
Nixon, to have the most honored status among the Grove's residence groupings.
"Mondo loro" by Pino Buongiorno, Panorama magazine, 12 Agosto, 1990 (August
12, 1990). The Italian newsmagazine's four page illustrated article about
Bohemian Grove (written in Italian) contains phrases such as "Superclub, che mania"
(Superclub, what a craze) and "comandante dello Strategic air command"
(commander of the Strategic Air Command), and "una delle maggiori fabbriche di armi
del mondo" (one of the biggest arms manufacturers in the world). The article
title may mean "their world." The article includes some of the photos that are
on this website.
"Pouvoir: le club le plus fermé du monde" by Jean Sébastien Stehli, Le Point
magazine, 27 Août, 1994 (August 27, 1994). Written in French. (Power: the
world's most exclusive club.) Le Point is a major French newsmagazine.
"Power at Play: The Boho Boys Club" by W. Hampton Sides, Regardie's magazine,
January 1991. Sides penetrated the Bohemian Grove in the course of
researching a book about American subcultures. (His book Stomping Grounds, in addition
to a chapter about Bohemian Grove, includes an account of a Rainbow gathering.)
The long article in the Washington D.C. based Regardie's magazine includes a
sidebar identifying nineteen Bohemian clubbers connected to the national
"The Male Manager's Last Refuge" by Walter McQuade, Fortune magazine, August
5, 1985. The Bohemian Grove is featured most prominently in this article about
all-male country retreats. McQuade also mentions the horse-oriented Rancheros
Visitadores in California and the Colorado based Roundup Riders of the
Rockies, as well as the aerospace industry linked Conquistadores del Cielo which
meets in Wyoming, and the Moles, a group of executives who build tunnels and
other heavy construction projects who have a summer place near New York City. The
Fortune article has two large photos supplied by the Bohemian Club, one
showing a "low-jinks" theatrical production and the other showing pyrotechnics at
the Grove's "Cremation of Care" opening pageant.
"Inside Bohemian Grove: The Story People Magazine Won't Let You Read," Extra!
magazine November/December 1991. Another reporter infiltrates the Grove, but
this time he is spotted by one of his bosses, a Time Warner executive who was
attending the encampment. The story planned for People magazine was killed.
Extra! is published by FAIR, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a New York
based media watch group. This article has sidebars critical of Time Warner, one
quoting an unnamed former Time magazine reporter saying his 1987 report about
cocaine trafficking in Oliver North's contra supply network was killed by Time.
Another story killing is mentioned: a Time reporter was undercover in the
Bohemian Grove in 1982, but that report also didn't see print.
The Santa Rosa Press Democrat - The Press Democrat is the daily paper closest
geographically to the Bohemian Grove and it has a website. Recent articles
can be called up with a search function.
The Sonoma County Free Press - The Free Press is an online activist "zine"
that contains commentary and reporting by Mary Moore in the Bohemian Grove
Action Network section. Moore has organized protest demonstrations at the entrance
to the Grove. (Speaking in Sebastopol a few years ago, Michael Parenti
acknowledged Moore as having led the exposure of the Bohemian Grove.)
A Relative Advantage: Sociology of the San Francisco Bohemian Club - A
Doctoral Dissertation by Peter M. Phillips, Ph.D., Director of Project Censored and
Associate Professor, Department of Sociology, School of Social Sciences at
California's Sonoma State University.
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- Hi Tarjei,
In reading this book by Karen Armstrong I am getting a
better 'feel' for Muhammed and what he endeavored to
bring to his people.
One of the things that strikes me is that its path was
similar to that of Judiasm: in order to get to one God
they had to take down the 'daughters of God'. That was
the missing piece for Muhammed on the way to
monotheism as it was for the Jews.
Interestingly as well is that what he was working on
was a change of consciousness from family blood ties
to spirit ties that outgrow the familial bounds
similar to Jesus' concepts in a way.
I find that Muhammed was very much inspired by the
story of Mary and Jesus. There is a reference to them
early on that actually insinuates to the exoteric way
of reading her being a virgin. However when reading it
from an esoteric level the 'veil' being lifted is
Well, what I am coming to is that Muhammed seems to
have brought a religion that centered on surrendering
(islam) ones total self to God. And the way to show
that was through letting go of worldly goods and
giving to the poor and taking care of them. But what
strikes me is this absolute 'feel' I have about the
self (nafas) getting its house in order. So, in a way
although it is one religion it seems to be made up of
singular people on a quest for God. Although they call
themselves Muslims as one their quest is really each
one by themselves. It kind of reminds me a wee bit of
Self Realization Fellowship by Paramahansa Yogananda.
It has that sense of righting oneself before God.
Almost like he took the Christ revelation and and then
became one of the men that achieved a self
revelation. Almost reminds me of the snake.
At one point the book speaks of 'exciting' the hatred
of the Jews. It is pretty apparant that they were
considered 'trash' among the peoples in that region.
And it seems they truly never recovered even unto this
day their own sense of worth. Almost as if they are
always in the place of having to defend their honor.
And not really only their own but that of their
Prophet as well. They know he is not what the Western
world says and they are always fighting some uphill
battle in their minds.
One last thing before I go. I find it extremely
interesting that the Satanic Versus as related by
Rushdie actually speak to two lines where Muhammed
gave credence to the 'daughters of God'. He then tried
to and actually did take the versus back and claimed
that they were slaves just as the everyday people
were, and that one could not look to them for guidance
Well, maybe this is the last piece before I go:) They
have the most remarkable references to Satan that I
have ever seen. To them their was no original sin.
Muhammed believed that this was all a part of Gods
plan. That in the end Satan will be the last to be
saved but he will be. Also he states that it is Satan
who loved God the most. I think of Lucifer here.
Anyway, the more I read of this Muhammed the more I
come to understand how he was able to achieve what he
did in such a short time. He truly had his face on God
and inspired others to do the same.
Tarjei you wrote:
> This point of yours was actually corroborated byTarjei
> Rudolf Steiner when he
> said that Arabic materialism was blunted by the
> emergence of Islam. So RS
> implies that this religion was a progressive force
> when it was introduced
> in the 7th century. Apparently, the destructive
> forces inherent in
> "Arabism" and connected with 666, Sorath and so on,
> has hijacked this
> religious stream because it has outlived its alotted
> era long ago.
> Specific manifestations of egoism. When a young manDottie
> kills men, women, and
> children at random by blowing himself to pieces with
> them in the firm
> belief that he will be rewarded with 70 virgins in
> Paradise for such a
> deed, we're not only talking about merciless egoism,
> but a specific variety
> of it, probably exclusively found among Muslims.
Yeah, this thing with the virgins bothers me a bit. I
think it is ridiculing them and this is not what
Muhammed had in mind physically. When I sink into the
Koran I will see what that means. In the mean time I
am going to speak to my friend about this.
I am not so sure it is found exclusively among Muslims
but I do not know how to make the argument. What comes
to mind are the 'fundies' of the world. We have people
here in the states killing doctors who perform
abortions in recent years. And I believe it will only
get worse as the right gets more power in regards to
other segments of society as well. We are about to
face the 'gay rights to marriage issue' and this is a
powder keg waiting to go. And they believe they are
doing what God would want them to do. Its pretty
And I wonder what is the difference regarding the ego
of having 70 virgins versus doing an evil thing for
p.s. I know I am not the best one to converse on this
subject however I would like to say it has inspired me
to become more knowledgable regarding a group of
people who are going to light the world on fire.
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