Re: Moltke "initiated" WWI ?
- holderlin wrote:
One could easily draw a tight bulls-eye on Bush's Premptive strke
> Imperialistic War Mongering and the Strike first Moltke paradigmyou
> have presented and really get down to some interesting historicalThe Wolfowitz Doctrine
> comparisons. It took a number of idiots to start WWI and it took a
> few Neocon Idiots to start this new 21st century hyped detour, War
> on Iraq and Preemptive permission for a Project for a New American
> Century is like a legalized Moltke.
"In 1992, a startling document was leaked from the office of Paul
Wolfowitz at the Pentagon. Barton Gellman of the Washington Post
called it a "classified blueprint intended to help `set the nation's
direction for the next century.'" The Wolfowitz Memo called for a
permanent U.S. military presence on six continents to deter
all "potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional
or global role." Containment, the victorious strategy of the Cold
War, was to give way to an ambitious new strategy designed
to "establish and protect a new order."
Though the Wolfowitz Memo was denounced and dismissed in 1992, it
became American policy in the 33-page National Security Strategy
(NSS) issued by President Bush on Sept. 21, 2002. Washington Post
reporter Tim Reich describes it as a "watershed in U.S. foreign
policy" that "reverses the fundamental principles that have guided
successive Presidents for more than 50 years: containment and
Andrew Bacevich, a professor at Boston University, writes of the NSS
that he marvels at "its fusion of breathtaking utopianism with
barely disguised machtpolitik. It reads as if it were the product
not of sober, ostensibly conservative Republicans but of an unlikely
collaboration between Woodrow Wilson and the elder Field Marshal von
In confronting America's adversaries, the paper declares, "We will
not hesitate to act alone, if necessary, to exercise our right of
self-defense by acting preemptively." It warns any nation that seeks
to acquire power to rival the United States that it will be courting
war with the United States:
[T]he president has no intention of allowing any nation to catch up
with the huge lead the United States has opened since the fall of
the Soviet Union more than a decade ago. Our forces will be strong
enough to dissuade potential adversaries from pursuing a military
buildup in hopes of surpassing or equaling the power of the United
America must reconcile herself to an era of "nation-building on a
grand scale, and with no exit strategy," Robert Kagan instructs. But
this Pax Americana the neocons envision bids fair to usher us into a
time of what Harry Elmer Barnes called "permanent war for permanent
While I am impressed with the wonderful data that comes gushing out
of your thinking Eric.. It seems to be one aspect of something that
has grabbed your full attention, just one, one-sided aspect of a
whole picture. However the Present and the Past are tied by rhythmic
spiritual lines of history. History has rhythmic patterns in it and
I'm sure that has not escaped your educational supervision. The
above observation that I made between Moltke and Bush is a very
concrete pattern that is emerging once more in historical
Now it is one thing to try to open the clam shell of history with
your fingers and say, Donald Rumsfeld or Moltke or for that matter
the secret background workings of Dick Cheney opened the gates for
preemptive war under the PNAC and another to be blind to what you
are seeing and reading. Moltke becomes an example not only to me,
but to anyone who is following the fountain of history you are
tapping. But here again, I hope that you are aware that while the
Living, here on Earth, with a pulse, are determining the direction
of earthly events, still the Dead Play their part in how we
misunderstand the future. For it is our failure to see deeper
reality that haunts humanity.
Currently, since the hundreds of thousands of deaths since WWI the
dead have marched over the threshold and have had a rude awakening
when it came to Nationalism and being over awed, as you are, about
little fragments of historical insight and chunks of failed
education and massive doses of hypocrisy. Indeed the fragments you
present and the interest you have in the subject, tell us a lot
about your own affinity to proving rather than understanding
history. What are you trying to prove? Your affinity isn't bad
affinity it reveals an unconscious passionate focus for you really
don't know why of all the interesting things in the world this is
the subject you want to shower on us here with the Michael School.
It reveals hot issues that hold your interest but what is your real
interest? But you fail to understand how the Present and Past are
struggling with learning issues of the soul and spirit.
The dead bring with them into incarnation, a spiritual common sense
that is slowly reversing the horrific tendency of blindness that led
us into those conflicts you are so fascinated by. Blindness and
passionate interest in biographical distortions, detours and
unessential trivia, that grips you, still does not allow you, Eric
to be Startled by facts. Facts such as Memorial Day for America is
really about what the Dead of the past would want the Present and
the future to prepare for. In other words the future will bring each
and every one of these souls into human form, destiny and
incarnation, with all that the errors of the past and fatal global
conflicts of the past have revealed to the Spirits and Souls of the
unborn. We cannot escape the burden of the unborn and the knowledge
of the Dead.
Now Eric, if you don't take the hidden history seriously, the Dead,
you can't really take the Past garbage pickings of history
seriously, for it is only serious as it applies to how we view
current events and if humanity is able to see patterns. You
apparently cannot. You have not brought interest to the idea that
our current reality is repeating a Moltke, Secretary of Defense,
Supreme Commander humanitarian error in thinking pattern. It repeats
a pattern under the surface of Wilsonianism and Bushism. This
naturally includes insights won when Steiner built the 1st
Goetheanum during, horrific times.
Now Steiner was certainly there when Moltke was on the hot seat.
Today the Michael School is here to see that the lesson that Moltke
took with him over the threshold of death, become current lessons
for own human decisions as we face our future. Seeing the patterns
that should be seen is part of the Michael School. The Dead as well
as the Free intuition of the Living, are part of the Michael School.
The Reality of a concrete Spiritual World is part of the Michael
School. An education with Art and depth connects the stream of
incarnations of the past with the living education of the spirit
entering our present. This is also part of the Michael School. Many
children seek parents who will lead them to Waldorf Education.
If, Eric, you have trouble understanding how concrete the patterns
of history are and what they are and how to find them or how
Spiritual Reality exists as fact, please ask. Because you have a
real problem with digesting startling facts. These facts are not
blind spots to us, that are unconsidered, unreal to you and that
makes you blinder than a donkey's butt. Get a clue or at least give
us something you hold dear as a ransom for your failed Intellectual
Tarjei Straume wrote:
Another clown is back with his one-track-mind about RS being ignorant about
who was responsible for the outbreak of WW I and about Andrea and myself
lying about his own posts.
I an AT message dated Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004, Eric told the following story
about the Goethanum and Anthroposophy Tomorrow:
"No wonder when I called the Goetheanum office ten minutes ago and after
being handed around twice, someone told me this list is considered by
Anthroposophists to be one for "crackpots" ! "
Thank you for letting us know what attracts you to this group. It takes one
to know one, obviously. But are you sure they didn't call *you* a crackpot
after handing you around twice as you say, and that you imagined they were
talking about someone else?
Gisele, didn't you visit the Goethanum right after that post was made and
expose the ramblings of this space cadet?
~~~~Yeah, I felt almost embarrassed by the looks they gave me like:"What is she on about?" - they had no idea of what Eric was talking about, never heard of this list either...
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