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Re: Steiner Swiss Press Office, 1916

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  • ted.wrinch
    Thanks Frank. Seems my Interpretation is reasonable. T. Ted Wrinch
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 2, 2012
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      Thanks Frank.

      Seems my Interpretation is reasonable.

      T.

      Ted Wrinch

      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Thomas Smith" <fts.trasla@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Ted,
      > Whether the idea of a German press office in Zurich was Steiner's idea or the German government's is not clear to me. In any case, Steiner applied for the job. He was rejected because he held Austrian citizenship instead of German. In GA 338 Steiner himself describes this. Really a strange biographical item, and I don't think you'll find much more about it in any language. He also says there, however, that his intention was to spread the Threefold Society idea "in a general way". And he uses the example of the press office to illustrate this. Therefore, he means, the Upper Selicia situation is a concrete example where it could be put into practice.
      > Frank
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      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ted.wrinch" <ted.wrinch@> wrote:
      > >
      > > This is from the current exchange on Der Staudi's 3-folding article and is quite a fun example of his dishonesty in action, and being somewhat caught out.
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      > > PS: " In 1916 Steiner sought to establish a press office in Switzerland to promote the German and Austrian cause, but was turned down by the German high command. (Steiner, Wie wirkt man für den Impuls der Dreigliederung des sozialen Organismus, 232-33) But the war did not conclude with the German victory Steiner and his followers expected."
      > >
      > > TW: "The press office he was trying to establish appears to be to promote 3-folding, a solution to the bloodshed and violence, not a promotion of it."
      > >
      > > PS: "The press office was quite explicitly to promote the German and Austrian cause in the war. It did have a connection with `threefolding' as well, which in Steiner's eyes was an expression of the German and Austrian cause; Steiner said that threefolding was "in the background" of his negotiations over establishing the press office in June 1916, though his threefolding principles as such weren't articulated until 1917."
      > >
      > > TW: "As we've established, not least from the quote above, Steiner was opposing nationalism with 3-folding. If 3-folding was `in the background' of his negotiations that would suggest that he was still working out details when he set up the press office. `promot[ing] the cause of the Central Powers' seems to suggest promoting 3-folding, which could have led to an early peace."
      > >
      > > I've been guessing my way through this as I haven't read any of the - presumably German only documentation - but I seem to be wrong footing him pretty well. It will be interesting to see what his next feint will be. Frank - do you know anything about it?
      > >
      > > I love his "the war did not conclude with the German victory Steiner and his followers expected". I've read nearly 1 and a half volumes of the Karma of Untruthfulness, which AFAIK is the place in Steiner's work where he goes into this topic in the most detail, and I've seen no reference to this anywhere.
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      > > T.
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      > > Ted Wrinch
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