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Helmut Zander - The Biography [13]

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  • jmn36210
    Chapter 12 - Subchapter -- Productive Conflict: Krishnamurti The next cycle of lectures, which he began on May 22nd, the day after Besant s departure, was
    Message 1 of 2 , Jan 22, 2012
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      Chapter 12 - Subchapter --> Productive Conflict: Krishnamurti


      The next cycle of lectures, which he began on May 22nd, the day after
      Besant's departure, was called "The Theosophy of the Rosicrucian".
      Nothing much new
      [wenig Neues] in terms of content, only towards the
      end did Steiner briefly talk about the Rosicrucians; in 1907,
      Steiner's "Rosicrucian theosophy" remained a catchtheorie
      [eine
      Theorieh├╝lse].

      The historical research on Rosicrucians, only became an academical
      sphere at the end of the 20th century. And so Steiner could allow
      himself to deem the founder, Christian Rosenkreuz, as a historical
      person
      ; he even disclosed the year of his raising to the rank of
      Knight of the Golden Stone within the Rosicrucian Brotherhood -
      1459 - and firmly believed that Rosicrucianism had its roots in
      the mysteries of antiquity that lived on until the present time.
      But at any rate, he could have known by immersing himself
      in
      scientific literature
      :
      Christian Rosenkreuz was a fictional character,
      invented by a circle of reform-orientated Protestants close to the
      Lutheran pastor Valentin Andreae.



      The advanced historian scholar gives a clue:

      But Steiner safeguarded himself from far too inquisitive questions
      of historical science. Supposedly, "The secrets of the Rosicrucians
      were only passed down by oral tradition". That worked as a fortification

      [wie ein Festungswerk] against outer and, of course, intra-theosophical
      contentions.



      Dr Peter Staudenmaier [WC - Message #22210]:

      "Zander's work is the gold standard for scholarly research
      on the history of anthroposophy. That's why it irritates so
      many anthroposophists.
      <snip>
      In his publications, in his teaching, and in his public
      appearances, Zander is an unusually thoughtful and respectful
      analyst of anthroposophy, offering extremely detailed and
      refreshingly sober historical assessments of the breadth
      of Steiner's work (...)"



      Jean-Marc

    • ted.wrinch
      Similar to the non-discusion currently going on at WC. T. Ted Wrinch
      Message 2 of 2 , Jan 22, 2012
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        Similar to the non-discusion currently going on at WC.

        T.

        Ted Wrinch


        --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "jmn36210" <jmn36210@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Chapter 12 - Subchapter --> Productive Conflict: Krishnamurti
        >
        >
        > The next cycle of lectures, which he began on May 22nd, the day after
        > Besant's departure, was called "The Theosophy of the Rosicrucian".
        > Nothing much new [wenig Neues] in terms of content, only towards the
        > end did Steiner briefly talk about the Rosicrucians; in 1907,
        > Steiner's "Rosicrucian theosophy" remained a catchtheorie [eine
        > Theorieh├╝lse].
        >
        > The historical research on Rosicrucians, only became an academical
        > sphere at the end of the 20th century. And so Steiner could allow
        > himself to deem the founder, Christian Rosenkreuz, as a historical
        > person; he even disclosed the year of his raising to the rank of
        > Knight of the Golden Stone within the Rosicrucian Brotherhood -
        > 1459 - and firmly believed that Rosicrucianism had its roots in
        > the mysteries of antiquity that lived on until the present time.
        > But at any rate, he could have known by immersing himself in
        > scientific literature: Christian Rosenkreuz was a fictional character,
        > invented by a circle of reform-orientated Protestants close to the
        > Lutheran pastor Valentin Andreae.
        >
        >
        > The advanced historian scholar gives a clue:
        >
        > But Steiner safeguarded himself from far too inquisitive questions
        > of historical science. Supposedly, "The secrets of the Rosicrucians
        > were only passed down by oral tradition". That worked as a fortification
        > [wie ein Festungswerk] against outer and, of course, intra-theosophical
        > contentions.
        >
        >
        > Dr Peter Staudenmaier [WC - Message #22210]:
        >
        > "Zander's work is the gold standard for scholarly research
        > on the history of anthroposophy. That's why it irritates so
        > many anthroposophists.
        > <snip>
        > In his publications, in his teaching, and in his public
        > appearances, Zander is an unusually thoughtful and respectful
        > analyst of anthroposophy, offering extremely detailed and
        > refreshingly sober historical assessments of the breadth
        > of Steiner's work (...)"
        >
        >
        >
        > Jean-Marc
        >
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