- Over in sugarland Der Staudi has - finally! - been rebuked by moderator Dugan for 'addressing his argument to his fellow subscriber' rather than the topics under discussion. So all that happens next is Der Staudi goes back into insults by stealth mode and addresses Dennis in the guise of 'esotericists' and 'anthroposophists' (the genetic fallacy). Dugan doesn't seem to appreciate that by lumping a list member into a group like 'esotericists' and then persistently attacking and degrading the group Der Staudi is doing the same to Dennis. What a farce and it's been going on for nearly a decade now...