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Re: Rudolf Steiner and the OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis)

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  • ted.wrinch
    Right on!
    Message 1 of 11 , Apr 30, 2011
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      Right on!

      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, Charlotte Cowell <charlottecowell@...> wrote:
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      > Down with the orcs!!!
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      > Long live the elves :-)
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      > --- On Fri, 29/4/11, ted.wrinch <ted.wrinch@...> wrote:
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      > From: ted.wrinch <ted.wrinch@...>
      > Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Rudolf Steiner and the OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis)
      > To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Friday, 29 April, 2011, 20:20
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      > That was an absolutely classic troll Tarjei. Knocks the stuffing out of Tom's recent effort if I may say so. But I think that one difference is that this one's done with good intent. For Tom, as you say, nothing is sacred and everything is fair game if it gets him a chuckle, which makes the whole thing rather pointless and nasty.
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      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@> wrote:
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      > > Been there, done that. It's the kind of speculations and discussions that takes you straight to the legendary Basement Files:
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      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/26466
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      > > Sharon Lombard (a holegirl a decade ago, think she's written a book or two, check it out) used to be an expert on this sort of thing.
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      > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "bikhe hozho" <hozhonahasglii@> wrote:
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      > > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@> wrote:
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      > > > > Daniel Hindes was active in this forum in 2003 and 2004, when PS and other holefolks were here to push their racism-agenda and related issues. After that, he put up a website called "Defending Steiner."
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      > > > > It's amazing to see certain outlandish myths resurface in the Abyss these days from anthro-wackos and the like -- and one of these myths -- in the negative sense of the word, of course -- is Rudolf Steiner's alleged membership of OTO, a notion that belongs in the same category with his supposed Satanism and sex-magic.
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      > > > > Dainel, whose posts and articles have always been thoroughly researched, factual and thoughtful, put this issue to rest on this page years ago:
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      > > > > http://www.defendingsteiner.com/articles/rs-OTO.php
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      > > > > There is nothing to add. Seeing this brandishing of Bondarev and sensational nonsense about Steiner and OTO floating around -- old baloney that should have been dead and buried long ago -- I'm proposing to close down this sorry excuse for an anthroposophical discussion forum. Of course I can't do that, contrary to popular belief, it depends upon what many other people think. I am only expressing my disgust.
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      > > > This is peculiar. Even in the site you reference, which purports to settle the question in the negative, it quotes Steiner as saying: "...I signed in linking up with the historic Yarker institution...", this being the OTO. How one may interpret this is a good question leading to another discussion, but as for the matter at hand as to whether RS was a member of the OTO, I don't see how this indicates anything other than that he was.
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      > > > Also, nowhere in his quoted statements does he say that he was _not_ a member of the OTO.
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      > > > Just branding discussion of this matter as "sensational nonsense" or an "outlandish myth" does not go very far to clarifying this knotty issue. In fact, the amount of dust kicked up by such reactive denials tends to support the suspicion that there might actually be something to such assertions that he did have more than passing acquaintance with the OTO! If you really do believe that such assertions are nonsense, it would do you well to present your case in less frivolous fashion!
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