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  • ted.wrinch
    I second Frank - thanks Kim! T. Ted Wrinch
    Message 1 of 124 , Nov 11, 2010
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      I second Frank - thanks Kim!

      T.

      Ted Wrinch

      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Kim" <kimgm@...> wrote:
      >
      > Another view Soul of man!
      > You live in the limbs
      > That carry you through the world of space
      > Into the sea of spirit-being:
      > Practice spirit remembrance
      > In the depths of soul,
      > Where in the reigning
      > Cosmic creator-being
      > Your own I
      > In God's I
      > Is begotten;
      > And you will truly live
      > In the cosmic human being.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > [Kaballah - Christian Angelic Hierarchy]
      > <http://kimgraaemunch.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/kaballah-christian-col\
      > or.jpg>
      > For the Father Spirit of the heights reigns
      > Creating being in the cosmic depths:
      > Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones
      > Let resound from the heights
      > What in the depths its echo finds;
      > This speaks:
      > Ex deo nascimur.
      > The elemental spirits
      > In East, West, North, South hear this:
      > May men hear it too. Soul of man!
      > You live in the heart-lung-beat
      > That guides you through the rhythm of times
      > To the sensing of your own soul's being:
      > Practice spirit contemplation
      > In equanimity of soul,
      > Where the surging
      > Cosmic creative deeds
      > Unite
      > Your own I
      > To the cosmic I;
      > And you will truly feel
      > In deeds of the human soul. For the will of Christ reigns in the
      > earthly sphere
      > Granting grace to souls in cosmic rhythms:
      > Kyriotetes, Dynamis, Exusiai
      > Let from the east inflame
      > What through the west takes form;
      > This speaks:
      > In Christo morimur.
      > The elemental spirits
      > In East, West, North, South hear this:
      > May men hear it too. Soul of man!
      > You live in the reposing head
      > Which opens cosmic thoughts
      > from eternal founts to you:
      > Practice spirit-seeing
      > In peace of mind,
      > Where the eternal goals of the gods
      > Confer
      > The cosmic being's light
      > On your own I
      > For its free will;
      > And you will truly think
      > From founts of human spirit. For the cosmic thoughts of spirit,
      > light imploring, reign in cosmic being;
      > Archai, Archangeloi, Angeloi
      > Let from the depths demand
      > What will be heard in the heights;
      > This speaks:
      > Per spiritum sanctum reviviscimus.
      > The elemental spirits
      > In the East, West, North, South hear this:
      > May men hear it too. At the turning point of time
      > The cosmic spirit-light stepped
      > Into earthly evolution;
      > Night darkness
      > Had ended its reign;
      > The bright light of day
      > Streamed into human souls;
      > Light
      > That warms
      > The poor shepherd hearts
      > Light
      > That enlightens
      > The wise kings' heads. Light divine,
      > Sun of Christ,
      > Warm
      > Our hearts,
      > Enlighten
      > our heads,
      >
      > So that good will be
      > What we
      > From our hearts beget,
      > What we
      > Through our heads
      > Will to achieve.
      > Translation: Frank Thomas Smith
      >
      > Kim
      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "radistasi"
      > <rdistasi@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Frank, thank you for your response. This is the first time that I
      > became aware that there was a dash after the 6th line in the last
      > stanza. Maybe I'm simply reaching but at the same time the "dash" seems
      > to allude to the 9fold configuration of the human Being. From what I
      > have read elsewhere the first 3 sets of two stanzas emanate from the
      > spiritual spheres and are directed to the human Being in regard to the
      > Father, Son and Holy Spirit; the 1st, 2nd and 3rd hierarchies; and Will,
      > Feeling and Thinking. While the last two (into three) stanzas then
      > amalgamate with the previous 6 stanzas as a Seventh Level Initiation and
      > would thereby reflect the whole of the 9fold human Being addressing the
      > Christ from out of our own micro-EGO/I AM to the macrocosmic EGO/I AM -
      > the Christ - the Macrocosmic Manu.
      > >
      > > rick distasi
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Thomas Smith"
      > eltrigal78@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi Rick,
      > > > It would be nice to say that I had that new insight, but I must
      > admit that it is simply a matter of choice. Steiner recited the FSM
      > various times during the Christmas Meeting. The printed version (without
      > the Latin) appearing in the Newsletter later shows 8 stanzas. However,
      > after the sixth line of the last stanza there is a dash after the comma
      > - indicating a separation, but not quite a new paragraph, something
      > Steiner used fairly frequently. On the other hand, it could be argued
      > that the FSM is divided into 4 parts: the first 3 begin with "Soul of
      > man" and the 4th with "At the turning point of time". Each of the first
      > 3 parts has 2 stanzas, so the fourth should only have 2 - making a total
      > of 8 stanzas. I just feel that there should be some kind of natural
      > break there after the sixth line. I never though of the 9fold human
      > being though. Maybe it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
      > > > Best,
      > > > Frank
      > > >
      > > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "radistasi"
      > <rdistasi@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > For Frank T. Smith:
      > > > >
      > > > > Frank, lately I have been working with the Foundation Stone
      > Meditation to which one can find several different translations. Today,
      > I discovered yours on the web and worked with your translation. I liked
      > the usage of the Latin in the key phrases such as In Christo morimur and
      > the references to the hierarchies. You also gave a brief historical
      > explanation for such usage which I found helpful.
      > > > >
      > > > > There was another point that I wish to raise which for me is quite
      > intriguing. I couldn't help but notice that the version of the FSM at
      > > > > http://southerncrossreview.org/43/foundation-stone.htm is divided
      > into 9 stanzas instead of the usual 8.
      > > > >
      > > > > Was this done with direct purpose? If so, it is in step with the
      > ninefold spheres of the human Being which I assume was your purpose. If
      > so, I applaud this new insight into the FSM.
      > > > >
      > > > > rick distasi
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
    • ted.wrinch
      I second Frank - thanks Kim! T. Ted Wrinch
      Message 124 of 124 , Nov 11, 2010
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        I second Frank - thanks Kim!

        T.

        Ted Wrinch

        --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Kim" <kimgm@...> wrote:
        >
        > Another view Soul of man!
        > You live in the limbs
        > That carry you through the world of space
        > Into the sea of spirit-being:
        > Practice spirit remembrance
        > In the depths of soul,
        > Where in the reigning
        > Cosmic creator-being
        > Your own I
        > In God's I
        > Is begotten;
        > And you will truly live
        > In the cosmic human being.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > [Kaballah - Christian Angelic Hierarchy]
        > <http://kimgraaemunch.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/kaballah-christian-col\
        > or.jpg>
        > For the Father Spirit of the heights reigns
        > Creating being in the cosmic depths:
        > Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones
        > Let resound from the heights
        > What in the depths its echo finds;
        > This speaks:
        > Ex deo nascimur.
        > The elemental spirits
        > In East, West, North, South hear this:
        > May men hear it too. Soul of man!
        > You live in the heart-lung-beat
        > That guides you through the rhythm of times
        > To the sensing of your own soul's being:
        > Practice spirit contemplation
        > In equanimity of soul,
        > Where the surging
        > Cosmic creative deeds
        > Unite
        > Your own I
        > To the cosmic I;
        > And you will truly feel
        > In deeds of the human soul. For the will of Christ reigns in the
        > earthly sphere
        > Granting grace to souls in cosmic rhythms:
        > Kyriotetes, Dynamis, Exusiai
        > Let from the east inflame
        > What through the west takes form;
        > This speaks:
        > In Christo morimur.
        > The elemental spirits
        > In East, West, North, South hear this:
        > May men hear it too. Soul of man!
        > You live in the reposing head
        > Which opens cosmic thoughts
        > from eternal founts to you:
        > Practice spirit-seeing
        > In peace of mind,
        > Where the eternal goals of the gods
        > Confer
        > The cosmic being's light
        > On your own I
        > For its free will;
        > And you will truly think
        > From founts of human spirit. For the cosmic thoughts of spirit,
        > light imploring, reign in cosmic being;
        > Archai, Archangeloi, Angeloi
        > Let from the depths demand
        > What will be heard in the heights;
        > This speaks:
        > Per spiritum sanctum reviviscimus.
        > The elemental spirits
        > In the East, West, North, South hear this:
        > May men hear it too. At the turning point of time
        > The cosmic spirit-light stepped
        > Into earthly evolution;
        > Night darkness
        > Had ended its reign;
        > The bright light of day
        > Streamed into human souls;
        > Light
        > That warms
        > The poor shepherd hearts
        > Light
        > That enlightens
        > The wise kings' heads. Light divine,
        > Sun of Christ,
        > Warm
        > Our hearts,
        > Enlighten
        > our heads,
        >
        > So that good will be
        > What we
        > From our hearts beget,
        > What we
        > Through our heads
        > Will to achieve.
        > Translation: Frank Thomas Smith
        >
        > Kim
        > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "radistasi"
        > <rdistasi@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Frank, thank you for your response. This is the first time that I
        > became aware that there was a dash after the 6th line in the last
        > stanza. Maybe I'm simply reaching but at the same time the "dash" seems
        > to allude to the 9fold configuration of the human Being. From what I
        > have read elsewhere the first 3 sets of two stanzas emanate from the
        > spiritual spheres and are directed to the human Being in regard to the
        > Father, Son and Holy Spirit; the 1st, 2nd and 3rd hierarchies; and Will,
        > Feeling and Thinking. While the last two (into three) stanzas then
        > amalgamate with the previous 6 stanzas as a Seventh Level Initiation and
        > would thereby reflect the whole of the 9fold human Being addressing the
        > Christ from out of our own micro-EGO/I AM to the macrocosmic EGO/I AM -
        > the Christ - the Macrocosmic Manu.
        > >
        > > rick distasi
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Thomas Smith"
        > eltrigal78@ wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Hi Rick,
        > > > It would be nice to say that I had that new insight, but I must
        > admit that it is simply a matter of choice. Steiner recited the FSM
        > various times during the Christmas Meeting. The printed version (without
        > the Latin) appearing in the Newsletter later shows 8 stanzas. However,
        > after the sixth line of the last stanza there is a dash after the comma
        > - indicating a separation, but not quite a new paragraph, something
        > Steiner used fairly frequently. On the other hand, it could be argued
        > that the FSM is divided into 4 parts: the first 3 begin with "Soul of
        > man" and the 4th with "At the turning point of time". Each of the first
        > 3 parts has 2 stanzas, so the fourth should only have 2 - making a total
        > of 8 stanzas. I just feel that there should be some kind of natural
        > break there after the sixth line. I never though of the 9fold human
        > being though. Maybe it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
        > > > Best,
        > > > Frank
        > > >
        > > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "radistasi"
        > <rdistasi@> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > For Frank T. Smith:
        > > > >
        > > > > Frank, lately I have been working with the Foundation Stone
        > Meditation to which one can find several different translations. Today,
        > I discovered yours on the web and worked with your translation. I liked
        > the usage of the Latin in the key phrases such as In Christo morimur and
        > the references to the hierarchies. You also gave a brief historical
        > explanation for such usage which I found helpful.
        > > > >
        > > > > There was another point that I wish to raise which for me is quite
        > intriguing. I couldn't help but notice that the version of the FSM at
        > > > > http://southerncrossreview.org/43/foundation-stone.htm is divided
        > into 9 stanzas instead of the usual 8.
        > > > >
        > > > > Was this done with direct purpose? If so, it is in step with the
        > ninefold spheres of the human Being which I assume was your purpose. If
        > so, I applaud this new insight into the FSM.
        > > > >
        > > > > rick distasi
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >
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