RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Southern Cross Review Nr. 70
MessageThere are lots of original pagan traditions, I talk about artificial, and mentions at least two, Nordic gods and Celtic lore, none of the followers you find in the public media have any relation to a living tradition.I have written Chakana – The Incan Cross where there still are some living traditions.Kim-----Original Message-----
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Right. New or old. Who says that 'old' paganism is ever 'gone.' In Italy paganism has survived the passage of time and even inside anthroposophy there are pagans who practice the exercises and the path given by Steiner and study the texts. Yet, there are many currents of paganism and they may differ a lot one from another. Italy, for example is tied to the roman pagan tradition, for the most. See for example the work of Evola. To call it artificial or a revived tradition does not seem always correct, maybe in the situation described by Kim, because the pagan tradition has been alive through all these centuries.
--- In anthroposophy_ tomorrow@ yahoogroups. com, "JoAnnS" <sr_joanna@. ..> wrote:
> --- Kim Graae Munch wrote:
> > Various groups, as atheist, satanist, and new artificial western pagan religions, together with extreme Islamic groups, attacks especially Christian churches and Christian thought all over the Earth, as also Steiner have described in connection with the Ahrimanic deception. If you can undermine Christian belief then people, who have not yet reached knowledge, which are the great majority, would have no defense against materialism.
> Hi Kim,
> I'd just like to note, as a Neo-Pagan (and thus as a member of a "new artificial western pagan religion"), I have no quarrel with Christians. Nor do I have any need or desire to "attack" them or convert them to my religious beliefs. Can you say the same about the Christians' reaction to Pagans -- new or old? Heck, just in your statement above -- which refers to my religion as "artificial" -- you are being disrespectful of my experiences and beliefs as well as of my Godesses and Gods. Then again, since you lump us together with "atheist, satanist and ... extreme Islamic groups," I suspect you don't actually know much about Neo-Paganism except that, you know, it isn't Christian.
> If you did know more about Paganism, you would know that most Pagans hold that God/dess is immanent -- that every one, every thing, is sacred. Nature and the material world *are* the manifestations of the Gods. Thus, materialism is rejected as a matter of thealogy.
> Just my 2 cents Canadian and as always, Your Maya May Vary....