- Hi Dottie There were only two who reached the I AM state and that was Lazarus and Magdalene, none other than them (well i am not absolutely shure here, becauseMessage 1 of 65 , Dec 1, 2003View Source
MessageHi DottieThere were only two who reached the I AM state and that was Lazarus and Magdalene, none other than them (well i am not absolutely shure here, because John the Baptist as Elias overcame the deadth, but he has another role to play in the story).Last in the book of John, Peter is given the job to be teacher of man (it could be Steiner) and John is given the job to lead the spiritual evolution of man. The only person(s) who were capable of that is Lazarus/Magdalene.John is the evangelist! as it is stated last in Jonhs evangelium, and I think that John is the combination of Lazarus and Magdalene. With your own preferences you can only see the the feminine aspect of them. I also have the 'intuition' that the mysteri has to do with the Holy Spirit, which is the feminine part of the trinity.Something more to consider, they have finished their development on this earth, that is, their constitution is not comparable to normal man.
In NT, especially John's, it's difficult to know where it's physical or spiritual, or both.The Rosy Cross is in family with the Yin/Yang symbol, the symbol containing both Chaos and Order (not God and Bad) where the line between Yin and Yang is the road of dharme. In Steiner terminology the roses symbolizes Lucifer (chaos) and Ahriman (extreme order) and Christ/good/Love/Life as the road in between, in equilibrium.May the Roses Flower on Your CrossKimNB! I down't know if it should be Blossom or Flower (It's translated from danish).
And it is, with Magdalene and Lazarus. These were the two
Christ loved, and that means that they both were aware of him, had
> the I AM. That is the prerequisite for the union of the twin souls.
> Lazarus was awakened, she was with him, after it, they are handled
Okay I can see where you are coming from within this stream to a
certain extent. However, I am not clear about this Lazarus other than
his name being in there. I do not sense any single relationship from
the Christ to a seperate man other than Magdalene. I am looking
forward to meditating on this and asking the questions. Previously
when I asked/looked for Lazarus I could not find him anywhere. And
your understanding can make perfect sense yet another piece of the
puzzle remains to be seen. It seems to me I can trace this 'one whom
God helped' back to Miriam, Moses sister as well as the one with whom
> She was by Christ at the Cross, but Christ speaks to John, they
> both, as one and as two.
How do you mean? You are referring to John as Lazarus/John right? Not
John the disciple right?
It's interesting you bring this up, well it all just really feels
right on time, because this morning I awoke with the thought of this
Golgotha scene in my mind. And I wrote it down to be able to express
it, which I never do except on rare occasions, but of course it was a
jumble when I looked at it this morning. However I would like to
share that we must remember that the other Mary came down at this
point, from the spiritual worlds, to the sacrifce/ressurection. And
the implications of this are the mother coming for her son as well as
being reunited with I now within the physical Mary due to the Baptism
in Jordan. (Fifth Gospel speaks to the fact that the I of Jesus was
released in a sense towards this physical Mary in order that Jesus
would be able to be free for the Christ. Now, this I do not know to
be true from my own mind but in following the Magdalene mystery it
seems to make absolutely perfect sense to me. So, in essence the
spiritual mother was reunited with the I within Mary (supposedly
returning her viriginity?) which also lends to Mother behold your son
and son behold your mother. It does not neccessarily mean that Jesus
was calling down to a physical Lazarus/John in my thoughts.
I do not at this point see a Lazarus/John physical being of male
gender at the foot of the cross which would be neccessary for me to
follow this soul duality you have shared. Yet this could very well
be, I guess our inner work will light the way:)
> May the Roses Flower on Your Cross (of Rosicrusian origin)
Well that is real beautiful. Can you divine to this part of the roses
on Your Cross flowering?:) This morning I walked out my door and
noticed the Rose had finally opened. (I forgot to look one day and
boom there she was)And I noticed that she is real tight and not askew
like my normal soul rose looks like. Which led me to thinking on how
in our childhood we come real tight and unfold at just the right
moment to only become bewildered, flustered and beautifully that
which we were meant to be. And then we die to born another seed.
Anyway that's my rose thought this morning.
Thanks Kim, I can't wait to see what arises from this wthin me and
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- Tarjei ... Apocalypse. ... written ... Lazarus. Dear Tarjei, I am inspired to write a scholarly :) piece on this today. In this I would like to say MagdaleneMessage 65 of 65 , Dec 15, 2003View SourceTarjei
> Lazarus-John didn't only write the Fourth Gospel, but also theApocalypse.
> These most profound and sublime documents of all time could only bewritten
> by someone who had been personally initiated by Christ Himself:Lazarus.
I am inspired to write a 'scholarly' :) piece on this today. In this
I would like to say Magdalene was also initiated by Christ. There is
absolutely no way around it. I am not sure if your comment means that
only Lazarus was initiated by Christ, does it?
Not only this but this week the headline for the Christmas Time
Magazine was Magdalene. Kind of interesting beings it usually is the
Mother Mary and the Babe. My friend saw the cover on my desk and
mentioned 'boy that looks like Mona Lisa'. And you know what, he is
right. So, got to thinking which led me to Da Vincis Mona Lisa. Now
reading the novel, The Da Vinci Codes something interesting it
brought out by known art scholars and that is that the picture is
actually considered a male/female painting. Magdalene: male/female.
Now, obviously this does not mean that I am right regarding Magdalene
however these little points will keep coming up till we get it about
this Feminine Mystery that was hidden by the Church. Peter was the
outer church and Magdalene represents the inner church.
I am going to pull this together in a little paper. I do not believe
it goes against anything Dr. STeiner said. I do believe that as
students we are not to stop at his death with the things he shared
with us. We are to go further or we are stuck in the mud. He hinted
that the Feminine Mysteries are going to be unveiled and they are. He
did not say who represented them although he did hint at it. If we
read his works between the lines, like we do the Bible, we will come
to this truth.
Its funny because a thought just came to me about John/Lazarus
writing the Fourth Gospel. Usually Mother Mary is not considered an
ispirant yet she is considered to have lived with this John. Now
suddenly people are starting to say John was inspired by living with
the Holy Mother intimating that it is a book by both in a sense.
People are starting to feel this Magdalene/Daughter intuitive energy
because they are acknowledging her in a sense. It is so readily
available to one who seeks.