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Re: Who is Elias Artista?

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  • Kim
    In Denmark and other European countries, Elijah is called Elias. By the way, John is called Johannes. At the time of Gilgamesh there was a sage called Oannes,
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 9 2:11 PM
      In Denmark and other European countries, Elijah is called Elias. By the way, John is called Johannes. At the time of Gilgamesh there was a sage called Oannes, and he should be John the Baptist/Elijah.
      Kim

      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, dottie zold <dottie_z@...> wrote:
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      > The name is a translation of Elias is Elijah/Ilyas or so it has been shown here and other places:
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      > http://www.dar-al-masnavi.org/n.a-II-1618.html
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      > 5(1621) foot: refers to the physical ascension to the Heavens of
      > Prophets such as Enoch [Idrîs], Elijah [Ilyâs], Jesus [`îsà], and
      > Muhammad (according to Muslim belief, during his "Night
      > Journey" and "Ascension"). It also refers to the essential
      > superiority of the saintly human being over the angel, according to
      > Islamic theology and sufi teachings.
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      > 'And the 'artiste' part seems to recall Novalis stream....anyhow it seems Illyas is Elijah.' And Elijah, for the Hebrews, preceeds the Messiah.
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      > All good things,
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      > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
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      > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Kim kimgm@... wrote:
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      > From: Kim kimgm@...
      > Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Who is Elias Artista?
      > To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:24 AM
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      > Hi Val,
      > do you have a hint?
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      > On the other hand it's quite interesting with Jungs's meeting with the two figures Elijah and Salomo, daughter of Herodias, and who gave her mother John the Baptist's head. With time the Elijah figure developed into the guiding spirit Philemon. Symbolically seen, Salome is the Sentient Soul, Elijah the Intellectual Soul, and Philemon the Conscioussness soul, Anima, Lower I and Higher I.
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      > Kim
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      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "val2160" wdenval@ wrote:
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      > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_(Jung)
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      > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Kim" kimgm@ wrote:
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      > > > Over in ANow they mentioned Elias Artista, but not much information
      > > was
      > > > put forward about him. Do any of you know more about him?
      > > >
      > > > Here is an extract from Adept Alchemy
      > > > <http://www.rexresearch.com/adept/aa10eso.htm> :
      > > >
      > > > In Chapter 8 of his treatise De Minerabilis, Paracelsus predicted the
      > > > advent of Elias Artista (Elias the Artist), Master of Alchemy.
      > > Elsewhere
      > > > in the literature of Hermetic science, Elias Artista is referred to as
      > > > "a symbol of the ripeness of the age! He is the great day to come when
      > > > all secrets shall be brought to light, and things now rooting in the
      > > > dark earth shall be brought to light, and things now rooting in the
      > > dark
      > > > earth shall come forth to full growth and flower and bear a treasure,
      > > > which is for the healing of nations... a symbolic representation, the
      > > > collective breath of generous vindications. Spirit of Liberty, of
      > > > science and love which must regenerate the world!"
      > > > Paracelsus, Glauber, Thomas Norton, Alexander Seton and other
      > > > alchemists wrote of Elias as if he were an individual. Paracelsus
      > > wrote:
      > > > "What is small and humble, God has revealed, but the more important is
      > > > still in the dark and shall likely remain so until the arrival of
      > > Elias
      > > > Artista... One shall come after me whose splendor is not yet in this
      > > > life, and who shall reveal much." According to Glauber, "This Elias
      > > > Artista shall restore the true spagyric medicine of the old Egyptian
      > > > Philosophy which was lost over a thousand years. He shall bring it
      > > with
      > > > him and show it to the world."
      > > > In Nineteen eighty-four: science between utopia and dystopi
      > > >
      > > <http://books.google.dk/books?id=EvjRu_fluhgC&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=%22Eli\
      > > \
      > > >
      > > as+Artista%22&source=bl&ots=lZxafBJtqJ&sig=Fmcegq99vCzoI7mnTzi3Zce5DkU&h\
      > > \
      > > >
      > > l=en&ei=t6PLSvfWC43Q-QbYveDjBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=\
      > > \
      > > > onepage&q=%22Elias%20Artista%22&f=false> a By Everett Mendelsohn,
      > > Helga
      > > > Nowotny
      > > >
      > > > contains a chapter with references and speculations.
      > > >
      > > > Kim
      > > >
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