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  • dottie zold
    Hey Friends,   I ve been thinking about a few things having to do with Revelations 13 because E brought it to my attention. And the disagreement was over a
    Message 1 of 90 , Sep 5, 2009
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      Hey Friends,
       
      I've been thinking about a few things having to do with Revelations 13 because E brought it to my attention. And the disagreement was over 'a' man or 'man'....I think he's right and I'm not although I haven't agreed yet:)
       
      In any case I was thinking about this 666 and today on my walk I came to the thought of the Betrayal by Judas and also by Peter. (Mr. Hale I am sure I am going to hear from you on this but bear me out.) If we look at what ChristJesus says before the cock crows thrice' we realize its in three twenty four hour periods....that is 3x6 = 666 (2+4 = 6) x 3.
       
      So I've been looking at the idea of betrayal by us or to others, knowingly or unknowingly, and realized that possibly Peter's experience speaks of the healing process in each of our own spirit bodies. If we just look at our own selves, without looking at any betrayal against us, our own betrayals to others, could be in the word or in deed, or in thoughts etc., we can begin to see that what plays out afterwards, and I think this has to be true for those on the initiatic path and recognize it, you will have to do this thing that the calling of Peter by Jesus at the end of John, did: recapitualation of the deed and the forgiveness, or maybe the righting of  the betrayal is a better way of saying it.
       
      Those who recognize they are on the initiatic path or think that they are trying to be true to what we understand as a path towards our conscious development, we can be conscious of these moments such as occurred to Peter. Peter answered in the affirmative that he would do what was called for him to do to heal the betrayal by his own soul. And this was to Christ....well thats an interesting question: At the end of John when Jesus appears in the Phantom body...I will say Jesus, to the apostles, Magdalene and the women, is this Jesus or Christ? Or are they united as in ChristJesus? I am not sure anyone has spoken on this or if anyone can point to where Rudolf Steiner speaks of this.....
       
      Hmmm.....
       
      Okay, the other thing I was looking at is something I just read in a reference portion of Habakkuk:
       
      "(fig tree ...vines...olive. See note on Judg. 9 - 8-12. 
      blossom.  The edible fig, which is the blossom: ie. the receptacle containing a large number of minute unisexual flowers growing to a succulent.)"
       
      Dottie: So, I go and check on this unisexual flower and I am taking into consideration this picture here:
       
      File:Masaccio-TheExpulsionOfAdamAndEveFromEden-Restoration.jpg
       
       
      and noticing his genitals and then thinking what we have is man turned inside out! The woman is within originally and then the man is turned inside out and thus we have the fig tree....
       
          
       
       
      7. Syconium: Inflorescence Of The Figs (Ficus)
      In a strict botanical sense fig "fruits" are actually inside-out flower clusters (inflorescences) called syconia. They are hollow, fleshy structures composed of modified stem (peduncular) tissue, lined on the inside with hundreds of minute flowers. At one end is a small opening (ostiole) lined with dense, overlapping scales. Calimyrna syconia contain only female flowers and must be pollinated in order to ripen. Each tiny flower consists of a five-parted calyx and an ovary with a long style. Following pollination and fertilization the ovaries develop into minute one-seeded drupelets with a hard inner layer (endocarp) surrounding the seed. The seed-bearing drupelets produce the superior nutty flavor and crunch. Without pollination Calimyrna syconia fail to ripen and drop from the branches.
      Left: A view inside the syconium of a rustyleaf fig (Ficus rubiginosa). The syconium is lined with numerous apetalous, unisexual flowers. Right: The unisexual flowers of Ficus palmeri. The male flower consists of a stamen subtended by sepals. Female flowers consist of a pistil (gynoecium) subtended by sepals. Using its threadlike ovipositor, the female fig wasp can oviposit through the short style but not the long style. Therefore, the ovaries of short-style flowers contain a wasp larvae, while the ovaries of long-style flowers contain a seed.
      Syconia Of Common Edible Fig (Ficus carica):
      1. The syconium is a complex inflorescence (flower cluster) consisting of a hollow, fleshy structure (peduncular tissue) lined on the inside with numerous tiny unisexual flowers. The ripe syconium is not a true fruit in the strict botanical sense. It is actually a fleshy, flask-shaped, modified stem lined on the inside with many tiny one-seeded fruits. The mature fig syconium is also called a multiple fruit because it is composed of numerous ripened, seed-bearing ovaries derived from numerous female (pistillate) flowers.
      Stamen-Bearing Syconium Of The Male Caprifig
      Female Syconium Packed With Long-Style Flowers
      2. Ficus carica has 2 sexual forms, the "male" caprifig and the female tree (edible fig). Caprifig trees are monoecious with separate male (staminate) flowers and short-style female (pistillate) flowers within the syconia. It is functionally male because it produces pollen. The caprifig syconia also contain wasp larvae inside the ovaries of female flowers because the egg-laying wasp is able to oviposit through the short styles into the ovaries of these flowers. Since a hungry wasp larva occupies each ovary, fig seeds generally do not develop.
      3. Edible fig syconia contain only long-style female flowers. Seeds develop within the ovaries of these flowers since the styles are too long for the female wasp to oviposit through. Her ovipositor is not long enough to penetrate the ovaries of these flowers so she does not deposit an egg. Fig seeds develop inside the ovaries of long-style flowers since there is no larva to eat them. Since functional male trees are bisexual (hermaphroditic), Ficus carica is considered gynodioecious rather than dioecious.
       
      And then interestingly enough, we can also look at the flower used mostly around Christmas time: the Poinsettia....now I never wondered why the poinsettia but it has a very similar manner as the fig, male and female.....
       
      6. Cyathium: Inflorescence Of The Euphorbia Family
      One of the largest genera of flowering plants is Euphorbia with approximately 2,000 species. This enormous genus belongs to the very diverse euphorbia family (Euphorbiaceae) with at least 7,500 species. The variation within this genus is astonishing, from low-growing garden weeds called spurges to giant, cactus-like succulents that rival in size our North American sahuaro and organ-pipe cacti. South African euphorbias have evolved succulent, spine-covered stems that greatly resemble North American cacti, a biological phenomenon known as convergent evolution. It is difficult to believe that all these diverse forms belong to the same genus as the showy garden euphorbia called poinsettia (E. pulcherrima) until you carefully examine the blossom. The showy, red, modified leaves of poincettia are not petals. In fact, they are not even part of the true flowers. They surround clusters of small, greenish, cup-shaped structures called cyathia. Each cyathium is actually a flower cluster or inflorescence containing unisexual, apetalous male and female flowers. The inconspicuous male flowers occur in clusters and are reduced to a single red stamen, while the female flower consists of a single ovary (pistil) on a stalk (pedicel). In poinsettia the ovary is hidden within the cyathium, but in other species the ovary protrudes out of the cyathium at maturity. The rim of the cyathium also bears one-several, greenish nectar glands that are attractive to insect pollinators. In some species the glands are subtended by petal-like bracts (petaloid appendages). Poinsettias typically have only one greenish gland per cyathium and no petaloid appendages. This flower plan is quite different from the typical floral plan, but it is the basic theme in virtually all members of the amazing genus Euphorbia. It should be noted here that some authorities place the prostrate, herbaceous euphorbias (called spurges) with C-4 photosynthesis in the genus Chamaesyce.
      Poinsettia (Euphorbia pulcherrima) in full bloom at Christmas time in southern California. Left: Bright red modified leaves (A) surround a central cluster of greenish-yellow flower clusters called cyathia. Right: Each cup-shaped cyathium (B) contains a cluster of red stamens (D) which are the male flowers. Inside each cyathium is a hidden female flower (not shown) consisting of a single, minute ovary. The rim of the cyathium bears a greenish-yellow nectar gland (C).

      Chamaesyce albomarginata, a prostrate, native euphorbia (spurge) that grows throughout dry chaparral hillsides and inland valleys in southern California. A: Cup-shaped cyathium (involucre) containing several minute stamens (male flowers) and a pistil or gynoecium (female flower) with a large ovary on a long stalk. B: Petaloid appendage extending from the rim of cyathium. C. Oval gland at the base of a petaloid appendage. D. Ovary of a female flower on a stalk that extends out of the cyathium. The ovary is glabrous (without pubescence) and develops into a multiseeded dry fruit or capsule. E. White membranous scale composed of united stipules at the base of the leaves.

      "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner

    • Kim
      The second Deed of Christ were in the start of Atlantis, connected with Enoch/Michael and the Luciferic spirits cast down on Earth, and the third deed at the
      Message 90 of 90 , Sep 16, 2009
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        The second Deed of Christ were in the start of Atlantis, connected with
        Enoch/Michael and the Luciferic spirits cast down on Earth, and the
        third deed at the end of Atlantis, with Abraham/Shekinah where
        Ahrimanian spirits were let loose. In 1879 there was another 'up-cast'
        of Ahrimanian spirits when the New Michael became Archangel.
        Kim

        --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, dottie zold
        <dottie_z@...> wrote:
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        > Oh is that what you mean when you say 'the deeds of Christ' I wasn't
        sure what you were referring to and I kept not asking...as I thought it
        had something to do with the forty days in the desert and his rebuking
        of Lucifer and Ahriman...d
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        > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
        human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
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        > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Kim kimgm@... wrote:
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        > From: Kim kimgm@...
        > Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Melchizedek and Michael and the
        Sister Soul
        > To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:52 PM
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        > The Deeds of Christ?
        > Kim
        >
        > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, dottie zold dottie_z@
        wrote:
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        > > Right but Christ works through Sophia each time he encountered the
        world I think Rudolf Steiner shares....and I think he mentions 3 such
        occurrances.....I am not thinking this is one of them but I do not know
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        > > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
        human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
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        > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Kim Graae Munch kimgm@ wrote:
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        > > From: Kim Graae Munch kimgm@
        > > Subject: RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Melchizedek and Michael
        and the Sister Soul
        > > To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
        > > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:18 AM
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        > > I think he was Christ, but I don't think he was incarnated.
        > > These old stories don't need to be physical, they can as well be
        esoteric..
        > > Kim
        > >
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
        [mailto:anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dottie zold
        > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:38 PM
        > > To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Melchizedek and Michael
        and the Sister Soul
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        > > You know, looking at this Melchizedek thing I keep coming to the
        Sophia working with/through the sister soul of Adam...that' s what I
        keep coming to.....And the voice of this is understood as the Bat
        Kol...and the Shekinah as the representative. ...kind of like a burning
        bush time and I think I said that before but when we look at
        'representative of El Eyon, God Most High' we are not talking Jehovah
        that I understand we are talking Elohim....it seems almost Holy
        Spirit....and something about the wording of the earthly King who greets
        Abraham and then the Melchizedek. ..and the earthly king who greets
        Abraham can tithe physical things, but what is tithed with Abraham are
        soul things of the future, bread and wine connected to the
        transubstiation. ...is that the world...anyhow, there is something about
        the 1/10....what does 1/10 mean...if we use qtips:) we have the circle
        right....and the circle also counts as 1....also Sun...
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        > > Jesus as Priest of the Most High, of the house of Melchizedek. ...of
        the Sun..... Most High.....ChristMich aelSophia and inherent
        Lucifer....Elohim. ..Sister Soul, Bat Kol.....not being able to be heard
        anymore....sister soul not being able to be heard anymore....Bat
        Kol.....yeah, and then this BatKol is transformed. ...I wonder if when
        Christ enters into Jesus we have the Sister Soul, if this sister soul
        can be noted as the BatKol, transformed due to the Christ now living
        within...I wonder if that could be....well that would be amazing to me,
        that would fit with the whole of my work over the last thirteen years or
        so..wow
        > > d
        > >
        > > http://northernway. org/school/ aom.html
        > > "Edgar Cayce believed and taught that Melchizedek was one of the
        Lives of the Master and explains his theory in a book of that title.
        Cayce believed Melchizedek was an earlier incarnation of Jesus who came
        to introduce the Eucharist of bread and wine."
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        > > "This "King Melchizedek of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met
        > > Abraham as he was returning from defeating the kings and blessed
        him"; and
        > > to him Abraham apportioned "one-tenth of everything." His name, in
        the first
        > > place, means "king of righteousness" ; next he is also king of
        Salem, that is,
        > > "king of peace." Without father, without mother, without genealogy,
        having
        > > neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of
        God, he
        > > remains a priest forever. (7:1-3)"
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        > > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
        human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
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