Re: Earth as Sun 2
- Dear Dottie,
I used the standard definitions of the Heavenly and Earthly triangles.
Lucifer and Ahriman was inserted following Steiners description of the
scene at Golgotha with Christ between Ahriman (blue) to the left and
Lucifer (red) to the right, also in correspondence with the Kabbalah. If
there are something we don't understand, it should be possible to ask.
The triangle with Adam Kadmon as the Androgyne splitting in Eve and
Adam, representing the Androgyne Son, and the Father, and Mother
principle on Earth, I thought was a nice illustration.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, dottie zold
>We can have studies and understandings but they have to relate to
> Dear Kim, before we go any further lets talk about responsibilities.
responsibilities as far as I can see it. So no matter what diagram or
schematic we come with, if we don't understand or speak on the reason
why then really we will just be playing catch up. This is what comes to
me in the last few days. We have a great responsibility and this is why
all streams now meet in Anthroposophy: they can not do it alone.
>human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
> All good things,
> "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
>the thought. I had/have a discussion in a Rosicrucian group around
> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Kim kimgm@... wrote:
> From: Kim kimgm@...
> Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Earth as Sun 2
> To: email@example.com
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 6:32 AM
> Dear Dottie,
> I had a little problem with this one, I had no idea of how to continue
Trinity versus Duality, where the Duality is the manifestation of the
One in his Creation, Adam Kadmon in Adam & Eva. And, of cause, the usual
thought about why Steiner didn't tell much about Eva.
>the extreme feminine and extreme masculine, with nothing in common. The
> We are in the start of the development of Man, Eva and Adam represents
development on Earth is to find the equilibrium, Love, to unify the
extremes. This equilibrium is represented through Adam 2, Christ Jesus.
>but on Earth are kind of evil, if they are not in equilibrium. The Son
> If we see this as the Earthly triangle we have:
> Lucifer and Ahriman are the goodly powers which in heaven are good,
of Man is our development, and if the ones like Lazarus/John and
Magdalene hadn't been, Christ could not have incarnated.
>problems on Earth? What did Michael throw down to Earth? If we
> We have the Heavenly triangle:
> And together we get:
> Why are they evil on Earth and not in Heaven? What is giving us
concentrate on Sophia, which are the positive female aspect in heaven,
the Mother, she is bound by the Ahrimanian spirits, as she had them with
her from the Old Moon and they were part of her. They are also part of
us and when we succeeds in our fight against Ahriman, that is developing
our Consciousness soul, the Ahrimanian spirits, she is freed. This is
the fight against Dualism for Love.
>lowest form is binding the physical molecules together, they are the
> Sophia is bound in our Earth, as the Ahrimanian spirits in their
atomic forces giving form to the universe, and the biggest concentration
here are in the center.
> --- In anthroposophy_ tomorrow@ yahoogroups. com, dottie zold
> >freeing Sophia by Rembrandt.
> > Dear Kim, we shall begin anew if we shall.
> > Here is a wonderful image of the Christ at the center of the Earth
> >why we look for Sophia, it seems to me that we must up the ante. So for
> > If we are going to look for Sophia and we are going to understand
starters I offer this picture towards the goal of understand what sits
at the center of the Earth that must reunite with the Sun.
> >hold this understanding that the Earth is transforming into a Star. What
> > In all of this work we must include, or so it seems to me, we must
seems to happen though is that this gets lost in translation as an
actual activity and what we human beings, and our karma, have to do with
the element which lies within our own bodies: our human heart that is
moving upward to create the etheric heart, wherein we meet this Christ
and wherein we too, as the earth, as beings of the Earth period, will
transform this heart into an actual sun. In order to do so it seems we
must along this way develop the capacity to ray out Light. And herein
lies the imaginative Word. Shall you join me?
> >human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
> > Love, Dottie
> > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, dottie zold wrote:
> Ottmar, we had the good fortune to have Ehrenfried'sDottie, is this the same photo you posted here recently,
> original painting of the heart that is mentioned in the
> lecture: he stated that if one did not understand anything
> he said if they would but just ponder the painting they
> would understand. I walked up to the painting and just
> began sobbing for some strange reason. I have a photo
> of the painting and will put it in my photo part on AT.
> I want to have it professionaly photographed and put to
> the proper size for all future conferences as it is quite incredible.
> All good things,
in one of your messages? I couldn't find it in the photo
section. Please let us know where we can find it!
> "If there is something more powerful than destiny,
> this must be the human being who bears destiny unshaken."
> Rudolf Steiner