Hausen article - Ressurection Power review
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>Miller of the News For Members. As I feel this is a gift from Michael,
> Dear Friends, this is the opening article, translated by Douglas
and is how I experience this debate here on line and in the Society, I
wanted to offer this beautifully thoughtful response by Ursula Hausen
of Germany. It is written in 1998.
>SRC: Comments: According to my reading of this article, Hausen
> The Resurrection Power of Anthroposophy
appeals to Steiner's basically monistic philosophy to support her
contention that, since the Christmas Conference and considering
Steiner's statements about it, the Anthroposophical Movement and the
Anthroposophical Society are one and the same, and therefore,if one is
aligned with the Movement, one has no choice but to pledge allegience
to the Society, no matter what its outer condition or fate may seem to be.
Its a well-put together article, and I totally agree with and
support her emphasis on Steiner's monism, but I disagree with her
conclusion. For one, the union of Movement (Michael School) and
Society (human institution) was Rudolf Steiner's _intention_, and it
is in some doubt as to whether it was successfully accomplished - see
Dottie's own quotes from Steiner and Prokofieff on this. Secondly, the
cause for the apparent lack of good fruit from this initiative may
come from the possibility that Steiner's initiative, while courageous
and a testimony to his commitment, was of a last-ditch "It is a good
day to die" variety. In line with this thought is the fact that one of
the main reasons for Steiner's split from the Theosophical Society was
Besant's similar impulse to unite it's esoteric and bureaucratic
functions. This was roundly condemned by Steiner as a violation of
This is a dilemma which, to my knowledge, has never been directly
admitted, confronted, or answered.
In short, the conflation of esoteric and exoteric on the basis of
monism is quite a leap. Altho everything is, at heart, all One, that
does not mean that everything is the same! Steiner was constantly
drawing distinctions of various sorts about all kinds of things. A
complete identity between the supersensible sources of inspiration for
his work and the collection of human individuals assembled to help
manifest it is surely not what Rudolf Steiner had in mind, and, if he
did, there are ground for considering that it may have been a mistake,
or if so, seen in the best possible light as an existential act on his
part that no one else was bound by -unless they choose to. To think
that Steiner could have committed his students (not "followers",
please!) to an occult slavery in an unconscious group initiation - or
even with full consent - goes counter to everything that he stood for.
Aristotle and Aquinas each, with the virtue of 20/20 hindsight,
occasionally subscribed to silly, stupid, and seriously wrong
statements and actions. Is Steiner to be immune from the inevitable
human tendency to make mistakes? That is too much of a burden to
place upon anyone's shoulders.
There are more serious issues involved in all this which cannot
be pursued if they are framed in such a way. Altho presented in a
manner which lends credence to the author's position, it boils down to
the choice of "Believe or be cast out." Such, in sum, is cult
mentality. If Hausen was to make a serious case for her position, she
would be cognizant of the objections which are inevitable - some of
which I offer herein - and answer them. She does not, for she is
committed to an ideological position, not the search for the truth in
it. Logically, philosophically, and anthroposophically, Hausen does
not make her case.
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> > wrote:want
> > >
> > > > I regret to inform you both that you're TOO OLD for me.
> > http://www.physorg.com/news147615590.html
> > <http://www.physorg.com/news147615590.html#>
> > Myth about 'dirty old men' supported by science Middle-aged men
> > younger women, often touting their intelligence and their highincome.
> > This is shown in research at Gothenburg University and OxfordUniversity
> > that studied 400 lonely hearts ads to see how men and women chooseabout
> > partners.
> > <http://physorg.tradepub.com/?pt=cat&page=_INTL>
> > in the theory of evolution includes a number of accepted theories
> > how men and women choose their partners.It wasn't the first study of this kind that I found-just the most
> They had to spend good money to research that?
recent. Here's another article:
A team from Vienna University studied more than 11,600 Swedish men and
women, aged 45-55, and their partners and found that relationships in
which the man was six years older than the woman produced the most
children - an average of 2.2.
Women placed more emphasis on resources and status - leading them
typically to choose older men.
Martin Fieder, who led the team and whose research was published online
by the Royal Society journal Biology Letters, said: "These findings may
account for the phenomenon that men typically prefer and mate with women
younger than themselves, whereas women usually desire and mate with men
older than themselves.
"We conclude that the age preference for the partner increases
individual fitness of both men and women and may thus be an
evolutionarily acquired trait."
When the team examined those who had changed partners after the birth of
their first child they found men ended up with women younger than their
first choice, while women chose men who were younger than their first
partner but still a little older than themselves.
Mr Fieder said: "These findings support the reported age preferences of
ageing men for increasingly younger women as well as of women for a
partner just a little older than themselves.
"We attribute the shift to a younger partner to a potential compensation
for the fertility loss caused by the individuals' increasing age."
>Cheese, I'd a telled emSorry to be the one to break it to you but your sample size would be too
> fer nutting.