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  • DB
    *The Pravda editorial at the end sums up quite succinctly the damage this administration has done. Mission accomplished...* *DB * ********** * *Paul Craig
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      *The Pravda editorial at the end sums up quite succinctly the damage
      this administration has done. Mission accomplished...*

      *DB
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      *Paul Craig Roberts* was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the
      Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street
      Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is
      coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
      <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0307396061/counterpunchmaga>He
      can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@...
      <mailto:PaulCraigRoberts@...>


      *http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts08132008.html

      *


      "President Bush, Will You Please Shut Up?"

      By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

      The neoconned Bush Regime and the Israeli-occupied American media are
      heading the innocent world toward nuclear war.

      Back in the Reagan years the National Endowment for Democracy was
      created as a cold war tool. Today the NED is a neocon-controlled agent
      for US world hegemony. Its main function is to pour US money and
      election-rigging into former constituent parts of the Soviet Union in
      order to ring Russia with American puppet states.

      The neoconservative Bush Regime used the NED to intervene in Ukrainian
      and Georgian internal affairs in keeping with the neoconservative plan
      to establish US-friendly and Russia-hostile political regimes in these
      two former constituent parts of Russia and the Soviet Union.

      The NED was also used to dismember the former Yugoslavia with its
      interventions in Slovakia, Serbia, and Montenegro.

      Allen Weinstein, who helped draft the legislation establishing NED, told
      the Washington Post in 1991 that much of what the NED does “today was
      done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.”

      The Bush Regime, having established a puppet, Mikhail Saakashvili, as
      president of Georgia, tried to bring Georgia into NATO.

      For readers too young to know, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
      was a military alliance between the US and Western European countries to
      resist any Soviet move into Western Europe [and to ensure European
      countries lined up behind the US, and bought its weapons systems.
      Editors] . There has been no reason for NATO since the Soviet Union’s
      internal political collapse almost two decades ago. The neocons turned
      NATO into another tool, like the NED, for US world hegemony. Subsequent
      US administrations violated the understandings that President Reagan had
      reached with Mikhail Gorbachev, the last Soviet leader, and have
      incorporated former parts of the Soviet empire into NATO. The neocon
      goal of ringing Russia with a hostile military alliance has been
      proclaimed many times.

      Western European members of NATO balked at the admission of Georgia, as
      they understood it as a provocative affront to Russia, on whom Western
      Europe is dependent for natural gas. Western Europeans are also
      disturbed at the Bush Regime’s intentions to install ballistic missile
      defenses in Poland and the Czech Republic as the consequence will be
      Russian nuclear cruise missiles targeted on European capitals. Europeans
      don’t see the advantage of helping the US block Russian nuclear
      retaliation against the US at the expense of their own existence.
      Ballistic missile defenses are not useful against cruise missiles.

      Every country is tired of war except for the US. War, including nuclear
      war, is the neoconservative strategy for world hegemony.

      The entire world, except for Americans, knows that the outbreak of armed
      conflict between Russian and Georgian forces in South Ossetia was
      entirely due to the US and its Georgia puppet, Saakashvili. Americans,
      alone in the world, are unaware that the hostilities were initiated by
      Saakashvili, because Bush, Cheney and the Israeli-occupied American
      media have again lied to them.

      Everyone else in the world knows that the unstable and corrupt
      Saakashvili, who proclaims democracy and runs a police state, would not
      have taken on Russia by attacking South Ossetia unless given the
      go-ahead by Washington.

      The purpose of the Georgian attack on the Russian population of South
      Ossetia is twofold:

      To convince Europeans that their action in delaying Georgia’s NATO
      membership is the cause of “the Russian aggression” and that to save
      Georgia from conquest Georgia must be given NATO membership.

      To ethnically cleanse South Ossetia of its Russian population. Two
      thousand Russian civilians were targeted and killed by the US-equipped
      and trained Georgian Army, and tens of thousands fled into Russia.
      Having achieved this goal, Saakashvili and his puppet-masters in
      Washington quickly called for a cease fire and a halt to “the Russian
      invasion.” The hope is that the Russian population will be afraid to
      return or can be prevented from returning, thus removing the
      secessionist threat.

      No doubt the Bush Regime can con the American population, just as it did
      with Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Iranian nukes, and 9/11 itself,
      but the rest of the world is not buying it, not even America’s
      bought-and-paid-for European allies.

      Writing in the Asia Times, Ambassador M. K. Bhadrakumar, a former career
      diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service, notes the disinformation that is
      being peddled by the Bush Regime and the US media and reports that “at
      the outbreak of violence, Russia had tried to have the United Nations
      Security Council issue a statement calling on Georgia and South Ossetia
      to immediately lay down weapons. However, Washington was disinterested.”

      Amb. Bhadrakumar notes that the American and Georgian resort to violence
      and propaganda has brought an end to the Russian government’s belief
      that diplomacy and good will can bring about a settlement of the South
      Ossetia issue. If Russia wished, Russia could terminate Georgia’s
      existence as a separate country at will, and there is nothing the US
      could do about it.

      It is certain that the Georgian invasion of South Ossetia was a Bush
      Regime orchestrated event. The American media and the neocon think tanks
      were ready with their propaganda blitzes. Neocons had ready a Wall
      Street Journal editorial page article for Saakashvili that declares “the
      war in Georgia is a war for the West.”

      Faced with the collapse of his army when Russia sent in troops to
      protect South Ossetians from the Georgian troops, Saakashvili declared:
      “This is not about Georgia any more. It is about America, its values.”

      The neocon Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C., quickly called a
      conference hosted by warmonger Ariel Cohen, “Urgent! Event:
      Russian-Georgian War: A Challenge for the U.S. and the World.”

      The Washington Post hosted neocon Robert Kagen’s war drums, “Putin Makes
      His Move.”

      Only a fool like Kagen could think that if Putin intended to invade
      Georgia he would do so from Beijing, or that after sending the
      American-trained Georgian army in flight, he would not continue and
      conquer all of Georgia in order to put an end to American machinations
      on Russia’s most sensitive border, machinations that are likely to
      eventually end in nuclear war.

      The New York Tiimes hosted Billy Kristol’s rant, “Will Russia Get Away
      With It?” Kristol thunders against “dictatorial and aggressive and
      fanatical regimes” that “seem happy to work together to weaken the
      influence of the United States and its democratic allies.” Kristol
      presents a new axis of evil--Russia, China, North Korea and Iran--and
      warns against “delay and irresolution” that “simply invite future
      threats and graver dangers.”

      In other words, “attack Russia now.”

      Dick Cheney, the insane American Vice President telephoned Saakashvili
      to express US solidarity with Georgia in the conflict with Russia and
      declared: “Russian aggression must not go unanswered. Only an idiot
      would tell Saakashvili anything other than “to cease immediately.”

      What must be the effect on US Intelligence services and the US military
      of Cheney’s propagandistic and irresponsible statement of US support for
      Georgia’s war crimes? Does anyone really believe that the CIA or any US
      intelligence service told the vice president that Russia opened the
      conflict with an invasion? Russian troops arrived in South Ossetia after
      thousands of Ossetians had been killed by the Georgian attack and after
      tens of thousands of Ossetians had fled into Russia to escape the
      Georgian attack. According to news reports, Russian forces have captured
      Americans who were with the Georgian troops directing their attack on
      civilians.

      The US military certainly has no resources for a war against Russia on
      top of lost wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a planned war with Iran.

      With its Georgian venture, the Bush Regime is guilty of a new round of
      war crimes. What will be the consequence?

      Many will reply that having got away with 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, and
      with its preparations for attacking Iran, the Bush Regime will get away
      with its Georgian venture as well.

      Possibly, however, this time the Bush Regime has overreached.

      Certainly Russia now recognizes that the US is determined to exert
      hegemony over Russia and is Russia’s worst enemy.

      China realizes the US threat to its own energy supply and, thereby,
      economy.

      Even America’s European allies, chafing under their role of supplying
      troops for America’s Empire, must now realize that being an American
      ally is dangerous and has no benefits. If Georgia becomes a NATO member
      and renews its attack on South Ossetia, it must drag Europe into a war
      with Russia, a main supplier of energy to Europe.

      Moreover, if Russian troops are sent across European frontiers, there is
      nothing to stop them.

      What does America offer Europe, aside from the millions of dollars it
      pays to buy off Europe’s political leaders to insure that they betray
      their own peoples? Nothing whatsoever.

      The only military threat that Europe faces comes from being dragged into
      America’s wars for American hegemony.

      The US is financially bankrupt, with budget and trade deficits that
      exceed the combined deficits of the rest of the world together. The
      dollar has wilted. The American consumer market is dying from the
      offshoring of American jobs and, thereby, incomes, and from the wealth
      effect of the real estate and derivatives collapses. The US has nothing
      to offer Europe. Indeed, American economic decline is killing European
      exports by driving up the value of the euro.

      America long ago lost the moral high ground. Hypocrisy has become
      America’s best known hallmark. Bush, the invader of Afghanistan and Iraq
      on the basis of lies and deception, thunders at Russia for coming to the
      defense of its peacekeepers and Russian citizens in South Ossetia. Bush
      who ripped Kosovo out of Serbia’s heart and handed it to the Muslims,
      has taken an adamant stand against other separatist movements,
      especially the South Ossetians who wish to be part of the Russian
      Federation.

      The neoconned Bush Regime is furious that the Russian bear was not
      intimidated by the US supported aggression of the American puppet state,
      Georgia. Instead of accepting the act of American hegemony that the
      neocon script called for, Russia sent the Americanized Georgian army
      fleeing in fear.

      Having failed with weapons, the Bush Regime now unleashes the rhetoric.
      The White House is warning Russia that failure to acquiesce to US
      hegemony could have a “significant, long-term impact on relations
      between Washington and Moscow.”

      Do the morons who comprise the Bush Regime really not understand that
      short of a surprise nuclear attack on Russia there is nothing whatsoever
      the US can do to Moscow?

      The Bush Regime owns no Russian currency that it can dump. The Russians
      own US dollars.

      The Bush Regime owns no Russian bonds that it can dump. The Russians own
      US bonds.

      The US can cut Russia off from no energy supplies. Russia can cut
      America’s European allies off from energy.

      President Reagan negotiated the /end/ of the cold war with Soviet
      President Gorbachev.,The neoconservatives, whom Reagan fired and drove
      from his administration, were furious. The neocons had hoped to /win/
      the cold war, thereby establishing American hegemony.

      The Republican Establishment reestablished its hegemony under Bush 1st
      that it had lost to Ronald Reagan. With this feat, intelligence was
      driven from the Republican Party.

      The neocons engineered their comeback with the First Gulf War and their
      propaganda, pure lies, that Iraqi troops bayoneted Kuwait babies in
      hospitals.

      The neocons made a further comeback with President Clinton, whom they
      convinced to bomb Serbia in order to permit separatist movements to
      become independent states dependent on America.

      With Bush 2nd, the neocons took over. Their agenda, American world
      hegemony, includes Israeli hegemony in the Middle East.

      So far the schemes of these ignorant and dangerous ideologues have come
      a cropper. Iraq, formerly in the hands of secular Sunnis who were a
      check on Iran, is, after the American invasion and occupation, in the
      hands of religious Shi’ites allied with Iran.

      In Afghanistan, the Taliban are resurgent, and a large NATO/US army
      there is unable to control the situation.

      One consequence of the neocons’ Afghan war has been the loss of power of
      the American puppet president of Pakistan, a Muslim country armed with
      nuclear weapons. The puppet president now faces impeachment, and the
      Pakistani military has informed the Americans to stop conducting
      military operations in Pakistani territory.

      The American puppets in Egypt and Jordan might be next to fall.

      In Iraq, the Shi’ites, having completed their ethnic cleansing of Sunnis
      from neighborhoods, have declared a cease fire in order to contradict
      the US propaganda that American withdrawal would lead to a blood bath.
      Negotiations on withdrawal dates are now underway between the Americans
      and the Iraqi government, which is no longer behaving like a puppet.

      Last year Hugo Chavez ridiculed Bush before the UN. Russia’s Putin
      ridiculed Bush as Comrade Wolf.

      On August 12, 2008, Pravda ridiculed Bush, “Bush: Why don’t you shut up.”

      Americans may think they are a superpower before whose presence the
      world trembles. But not the Russians.

      Those Americans stupid enough to think that America’s “superpower”
      insures its citizens from danger need to read the total contempt shown
      for President Bush in Pravda:

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? In your statement on Monday regarding the
      legitimate actions of the Russian Federation in Georgia, you failed
      to mention the war crimes perpetrated by Georgian military forces,
      which American advisors support, against Russian and Ossetian civilians

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? Your faithful ally, Mikhail Saakashvili, was
      announcing a ceasefire deal while his troops, with your advisors,
      were massing on Ossetia’s border, which they crossed under cover of
      night and destroyed Tskhinvali, targeting civilian structures just
      like your forces did in Iraq.

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? Your American transport aircraft gave a ride
      home to thousands of Georgian soldiers from Iraq directly into the
      combat zone.

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? How do you account for the fact that among
      the Georgian soldiers fleeing the fighting yesterday you could
      clearly hear officers using American English giving orders to “Get
      back inside” and how do you account for the fact that there are
      reports of American soldiers among the Georgian casualties?

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? Do you really think anyone gives any
      importance whatsoever to your words after 8 years of your criminal
      and murderous regime and policies? Do you really believe you have
      any moral ground whatsoever and do you really imagine there is a
      single human being anywhere on this planet who does not stick up his
      middle finger every time you appear on a TV screen?

      Do you really believe you have the right to give any opinion or
      advice after Abu Ghraib? After Guantanamo? After the massacre of
      hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? After the torture by CIA
      operatives?

      Do you really believe you have any right to make a statement on any
      point of international law after your trumped-up charges against
      Iraq and the subsequent criminal invasion?

      “President Bush,

      Why don’t you shut up? Suppose Russia for instance declares that
      Georgia has weapons of mass destruction? And that Russia knows where
      these WMD are, namely in Tblisi and Poti and north, south, east and
      west of there? And that it must be true because there is
      ‘magnificent foreign intelligenc’ such as satellite photos of milk
      powder factories and baby cereals producing chemical weapons and
      which are currently being ‘driven around the country in vehicles’?
      Suppose Russia declares for instance that ‘Saakashvili stiffed the
      world’ and it is ‘time for regime change’?

      Nice and simple, isn’t it, President Bush?

      “So, why don’t you shut up? Oh and by the way, send some more of your
      military advisors to Georgia, they are doing a sterling job. And they
      look all funny down the night sight, all green.”

      The US is not a superpower. It is a bankrupt farce run by imbeciles who
      were installed by stolen elections arranged by Karl Rove and Diebold. It
      is a laughing stock, that ignorantly affronts and attempts to bully an
      enormous country equipped with tens of thousands of nuclear weapons.

      *
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    • holderlin66
      It is really, really about time. And just what sort of chaos, catastrophe, torture, murder and fascism has been prepared for the Ahrimanic incarnation? The
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 14, 2008
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        It is really, really about time.  And just what sort of chaos, catastrophe, torture, murder and fascism has been prepared for the Ahrimanic incarnation? The biggest catch and biggest fish after Nazi Germany, which was just the first act, not only begun when Steiner's lone Michael voice stood against the first round of the Ahrimanic assault, which when Feb 27th, 1933, opened the Nazi, prelude...the 1998 Sorathian surge with Dick Cheney taking the helm under the heading of the PNAC, pre-emptive imperialistic Project for a New Ahrimanic Century, picked up where the nuclear baptism and birth of the Ahrimanic Sun aimed it's black lodge ahrimanic and sorathian holdings, those who were thrown back into incarnation to serve Ahriman against Michael... And what can we expect from human souls infested with Ahrimanic intent?

        A pure disgust for the human.  A resort to torture, lies and the father of lies and bringing the world into a state of media and manipulative chaos with the left over fallen INTEL of a humanity who stands crippled in cognition and literally dumb and stupid to the spiritual world.  It is about about time someone, and even from our circles, lifted an essay and an insight that drags these human infested dogs out into the open for what they are.  Diseases, mentally and morally diseased.  It is about time something entirely honest was pushed up the nose of these criminals.

        We have the huge America as the based super power for the Ahrimanic surge.  It disappeared out of Germany and like whack a mole, it has appeared with all the fixings of cheap Etheric Christ imitation, such as Trinity New Mexico and spreading depleted uranium, fallen and decayed Ahrimanic light, the very light that is the weapon and food of the anti-light Sorathian and Ahrimanic beings.  Now these infested, addicted liars and derelicts, tossed out of the spiritual world, are horded, Legioned, and locked and loaded into scranny, backasswards, easy to see through, Ahrimanic distortions of the human heart and mind.

        http://vodpod.com/watch/292640-what-we-call-the-news?pod=buzzflash

        These are flat out war criminals, liars, torture mongers and Ahrimanic alien soul infestations that haved invaded the crumbling intelligence of the soul.  These beings find it a great pleasure to debase humanity and cause chaos and destruction and confusion so that Michael Intelligence cannot flourish, cannot arise, unless we understand exactly what we are seeing, reading and hearing.  9/11 and the Anthrax murders and the London underground bombings and Spain were all terrorist inside jobs and any blathering about terrorists this and terrorist that, Osama has been dead for years... it would be a sorry, sorry, sorry state of affairs to have Anthros in their little quivering thought life continued to be swayed by any, any, and I mean any Neocon propaganda.  Ahriman enjoys this immensely, the world teetering once more on WWIII.  Ahriman loves it that Michael students have been so stubborn and pumpkin headed and easy going on the fact that 9/11 was an inside job and had nothing to do with Muslims or Osama.

        It is about time that Media liars and bought and paid for Congressional whores were seen in their full Orwellian regalia.  If only we all had the strength to stand on exactly what Dr. Steiner presented.  He presented clearly and obviously to an immature humanity, the signal of 1933 and the strong, strong reality of 1998 and the Sorathian surge.  Look it up, the PNAC was a 1998 declaration of Ahrimanic intent.  Honest enough and the Matrix Series was a full blown Ahrimanic imagination of a world without human angels and without human hearts and minds. The Matrix appeared in 1999.  Ours is to see into the behavior and Ahrimanic tendencies and know them well enough to see their manipulative, lying intent as it twists the entire American ideology and sense of good into a corrupted Nazi/Orwellian double speak.  Literally the Double Speaking.

        So what is GWB, nothing but a little Philip the Fair spoiled frat boy sent to murder more Templars or Spiritual Beings than Philip did.  GWB is a Luciferic/Ann Coulterish screaming idiot who claims to have looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul.  Cheney has already lost his human heart and is kept barely alive by sheer Ahrimanic will and Ahrimanic soul drives, while driving the entire Propaganda and brainwashing of American media to embrace torture, lies, and reporter by reporter and Congress man by Congress woman, betrayers of their own humanity.  Using Karl Rove strategies of holding deep dark secrets against its pawns, fetishes and child porn that weaves through out the whole vast mess...and learning in this hyper Sorathian Schooling, this window for intense Sorathian schooling, how to wilt the will power and corrupt every human and courage centered impulse.   It is about time somebody placed on this list a mere hint of reality....

        "Those Americans stupid enough to think that America's "superpower"
        insures its citizens from danger need to read the total contempt shown
        for President Bush in Pravda:

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? In your statement on Monday regarding the
        legitimate actions of the Russian Federation in Georgia, you failed
        to mention the war crimes perpetrated by Georgian military forces,
        which American advisors support, against Russian and Ossetian civilians

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? Your faithful ally, Mikhail Saakashvili, was
        announcing a ceasefire deal while his troops, with your advisors,
        were massing on Ossetia's border, which they crossed under cover of
        night and destroyed Tskhinvali, targeting civilian structures just
        like your forces did in Iraq.

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? Your American transport aircraft gave a ride
        home to thousands of Georgian soldiers from Iraq directly into the
        combat zone.

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? How do you account for the fact that among
        the Georgian soldiers fleeing the fighting yesterday you could
        clearly hear officers using American English giving orders to "Get
        back inside" and how do you account for the fact that there are
        reports of American soldiers among the Georgian casualties?

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? Do you really think anyone gives any
        importance whatsoever to your words after 8 years of your criminal
        and murderous regime and policies? Do you really believe you have
        any moral ground whatsoever and do you really imagine there is a
        single human being anywhere on this planet who does not stick up his
        middle finger every time you appear on a TV screen?

        Do you really believe you have the right to give any opinion or
        advice after Abu Ghraib? After Guantanamo? After the massacre of
        hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? After the torture by CIA
        operatives?

        Do you really believe you have any right to make a statement on any
        point of international law after your trumped-up charges against
        Iraq and the subsequent criminal invasion?

        "President Bush,

        Why don't you shut up? Suppose Russia for instance declares that
        Georgia has weapons of mass destruction? And that Russia knows where
        these WMD are, namely in Tblisi and Poti and north, south, east and
        west of there? And that it must be true because there is
        `magnificent foreign intelligenc' such as satellite photos of milk
        powder factories and baby cereals producing chemical weapons and
        which are currently being `driven around the country in vehicles'?
        Suppose Russia declares for instance that `Saakashvili stiffed the
        world' and it is `time for regime change'?

        Nice and simple, isn't it, President Bush?

        "So, why don't you shut up? Oh and by the way, send some more of your
        military advisors to Georgia, they are doing a sterling job. And they
        look all funny down the night sight, all green."

        The US is not a superpower. It is a bankrupt farce run by imbeciles who
        were installed by stolen elections arranged by Karl Rove and Diebold. It
        is a laughing stock, that ignorantly affronts and attempts to bully an
        enormous country equipped with tens of thousands of nuclear weapons.

        *
        * <mailto:PaulCraigRoberts@...>

      • Mike Helsher
        Lions and tigers and bears...OH MY!!! The toilet blew up yesterday afternoon the plumber he said never flush a tampooooon this great information cost me
        Message 3 of 3 , Aug 15, 2008
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          "Lions and tigers and bears...OH MY!!!"

          "The toilet blew up yesterday afternoon
          the plumber he said never flush a tampooooon
          this great information cost me half a weeks pay
          and the toilet blew up later on the next day..." FZ

          Seriously, this is "great information" and perhaps holding it in the light is helpful.

          But when it becomes a predominant theme in the minds, and I do mean in "the minds" of some people, then indeed the powers that perpetuate this kind of militant ignorance have taken over...

          lets not forget about "thinking with the power of love in spiritual form". Or feeling the difference between Life and death, a crystal and an animal, or a living seed as opposed to a mock seed that looks real - which is what these horror stories are really. We are all the writers our own Iliad, in a very individual kind of way. "My karma ran over your dogma" might have merit, but fortunately the Un-improvable Love will run over your Karma, if you are so inclined to think into it...

          Great Pics BTW. I had a great laugh!

          Mike
          --- On Thu, 8/14/08, holderlin66 <holderlin66@...> wrote:
          From: holderlin66 <holderlin66@...>
          Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Paul Craig Roberts essay: "President Bush, Will You Please Shut Up?"
          To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 11:48 PM

          It is really, really about time.  And just what sort of chaos, catastrophe, torture, murder and fascism has been prepared for the Ahrimanic incarnation? The biggest catch and biggest fish after Nazi Germany, which was just the first act, not only begun when Steiner's lone Michael voice stood against the first round of the Ahrimanic assault, which when Feb 27th, 1933, opened the Nazi, prelude...the 1998 Sorathian surge with Dick Cheney taking the helm under the heading of the PNAC, pre-emptive imperialistic Project for a New Ahrimanic Century, picked up where the nuclear baptism and birth of the Ahrimanic Sun aimed it's black lodge ahrimanic and sorathian holdings, those who were thrown back into incarnation to serve Ahriman against Michael... And what can we expect from human souls infested with Ahrimanic intent?

           

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