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Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Spirit Body

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  • Albert S├índor
    Your words made me connect them to something shared on another forum (yogaforums.com): Having nothing by Rumi/Coleman Barks from A year with Rumi What ever
    Message 1 of 49 , Jun 4, 2008
      Your words  made me connect them to something shared on another forum (yogaforums.com):
      Having nothing by Rumi/Coleman Barks from "A year with Rumi"

      What ever comes, comes from a need,
      a sore distress, a hurting want.

      Mary's pain made the baby Jesus.
      Her womb opened its lips
      and spoke the Word.

      Every part of you has a secret language.
      Your hands and your feet say what you have done.

      Every need brings in what's needed.
      Pain bears its cure like a child.

      Having nothing produces provisions.
      Ask a difficult question,
      and the marvelous answer appears.

      Build a ship, and there will be water
      to float it. The tender-throated infant cries,
      and milk drips from the mother's breast.

      Be thirsty for the ultimate water.
      Then be ready for what will come
      pouring from the spring.
      A great example of the Christ impulse manifesting in muslim culture. (no wonder, as sufism is a mystical approach).
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:07 AM
      Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Spirit Body

      Hey Friends,


      I found myself contemplating the blood issues this week and today I found myself once again looking at the concept of Mary being a virgin again and what that meant.


      It seems to me that this root chakra/petal/ flower has the aspect of physical procreation as well as spiritual procreation. What has to be done is that the root chakra has to be separated out from the physical body. This seems to be where we are 'held' together in a way, and cannot separate out from the physical to the spirit body.


      So it seems the Mary's virginity also had to do with being able to transform this flower/petal/ chakra. And in this she could become a 'virgin' again. This aspect of physical procreation was transformed which then led to the other chakras being transformed. Or so are my thinkings at this time.


      It seems when our thinking feeling and willing separate out we find ourselves going through our past biographies in a way, and their relations to today's biography, in what specific state we find our chakras. If we were monks in the last life, or sisters of the church or whathaveyou we probably will be dealing with some sort of root chakra shut down, where it was denied/suppressed in an unheathly unfree manner, as we were not conscious at that time. As we are called to consciousness today it is so important it seems to reconcile that suppression with a healthiness in our intimacies.


      We can not transform that which we deny. Same thing goes for our shadow. And then we can address everything consciously and out of that make free choices of how we choose to live our lives.


      But this root chakra seems to have a need to transform before we can even consider the possibility that one day we will 'speak forth the Word'.


      All good things,


    • dottie zold
      Ooops it should say without her nothing moves, as we are dealing with the fallen Sophia .   d ... From: dottie zold <dottie_z@yahoo.com> Subject:
      Message 49 of 49 , Jun 10, 2008

        Ooops it should say " without her nothing moves, as we are dealing with the fallen Sophia'.



        --- On Tue, 6/10/08, dottie zold <dottie_z@...> wrote:

        From: dottie zold <dottie_z@...>
        Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] The Feet
        To: anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:14 PM

        Hey Friends,


        I have wondered for years why it is that they said the 'feet' represented the sexual organ. Well, it is said the Hebrews say this. And of course we always see, just about always, the Magdalene at the feet of Jesus on the Cross. Always at the feet. And the other Mary usually at the head. When there are three they are positioned head hand feet.


        Today I realized when contemplating again on the Kaballah, that we have the feet, which is also mentioned in the bible as 'take your shoes of you are on Holy Ground'. Now I have considered all of this before but it just suddenly hit  home that the 'feet' is the body of the Tree of Life. And we are looking at the Root Chakra, what is often considered the sexual chakra, yet in a higher sense we are dealing with 'creativity'.


        So we know the Magdalene represents the Malkuth, the root chakra, and without her nothing has to deal with the fallen Sophia.


        But I just thought it interesting to consider why the feet were considered by the Hebrews to respresent the sexual organ! Now we know, it was their mystery teachings.


        All good things,



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