Re: Hello friends, from Romania
You know there is a lot, a lot of things to say on this.
I know, it's deep isn't it? It's just so frieken deep. I think this
is why I am back in Lemuria right now. And, I think I have to go back
even further to know a thing I am looking for. I mean, really Dan,
how can one go back even further? It's just insanely deep.
> I may tell you that of course, I realized that Holly Spirit asSo, I would like to know if you had a vision of this? Did you see
> Cosmic Sophia was present through different limbs and how was
> present in the Major turning point - Golgotha Mistery.
this? My experience was of a group of lights as if in a body form.
Each of the Lights represented a limb. It stood in my doorway. I've
recently come to understand this as the Tree of Life which I believe
represents the Sophia as a whole. This was actually my first adult
vision. And I was looking all day yesterday for the painting of Le
Sueur's painting of the Christ appearing to the Magdalene when I came
upon the fact that he died on the day that I had my this particular
vision: November 19. It was in this painting that I saw the
Christ 'opening' the third eye, of the Magdalene. It was the first
time I didn't see this painting as 'do not touch me yet, I've not
risen to our Father'.
Dan, I wish you to share some more experiences or thoughts as I find
that they are helping me to come to a 'rest' in Sophia. This is very
hard for me as I am in this seeking and releasing mode constantly. I
have this task in my mind and it does not allow me to rest properly
in She. But your words allow me to go deeper within me.
Can you share a little more about Lucifer coming into the Temple as
in the Mystery Dramas? When you have a moment.
Love and thanks,
- Hello Dottie,
Well, it seems to be like an endless path, like Ariadna's legend.
But I assure you that I am a permanent profane to this Mystery.
I think that Sophia in her Heavenly relation in Christ Mistery will
develope higher and higher meanings in the light of a true knowledge
of the Body of Christ.
So, I really think that not my visions, and spiritual experiences
can give an answer to this. (but I'm happy to share my thoughts with
all of you and think that you're posts on Sophia also, brought a
light of understanding to my own questions)
And a little advice from a friend: (even I am not sure that fits
your path, but I found also true in my own): do not be obssesed
I think it's a cosmic law that when you "loose" something or release
it in your true conscioussness you will rediscover in your soul a
complete new germinated form.
Regarding my own path I may tell you that somehow, I was able
(or "blessed" -as a term) to found again something about Sophia
after some years of inner suffering.
In my every day life, things were going as I was thinking then, very
good (exoteric) but my soul was in a deeper, and deeper suffering
till I may say so, it was nothing. "In nothingness I hope to find
Also, some indications of mine was from Renaissance paintings.
Masters that I didn't knew anything about before (but as I search
anthroposophic sites- they were well known) I discovered.
When I was trying to found an answer about what forces are connected
with Sophia, that brings in human, so comfort, so healing forces my
eyes picked the Botticinni's work about "Tobias and the three
Archangels"...So you know, the answer is well known in
anthroposophic research that Archangel Raphael is in connection with
Sophia and the Nathanic Child, who brings your soul comfort as "The
Comforter" (it's quite funny that in these states you "forget" about
anything that you thought you learned. It's like lossing your
intelectual-memory and read with other kind of senses, in a complete
forgetness but consciouss state of mind)...
It seems to me that the rising of the human soul in the next high
stages and from human thought to cosmic thought regarding the new
imaginative perception form is in Sophia.
But as "the born of Venera" masterpiece of Boticelli, it will be
from the suffering of the shell that a pearl is born, the same shell
that shows you in its pearl-point the Nathanael Child like in this
I think from its rigid 12 petals shell, the pearl will be born in
Best regards, Dan
- Dear Dan,
I think its good to share our thoughts such as you are
doing. I don't think it is a matter of someone
thinking that because they share a thing this means
they know the end all be all, I think its a matter of
sharing our insights because they also help others who
are seeking or finding and it helps pull the threads
together or apart in a way that helps the seeker. At
least this is my experience. And I think if it was
just about me, I wouldn't even be involved with a
list, I'd just be soaking it up myself and keeping it
to my self. That's not the way I am to go about it
See, your thoughts allow me to keep going back to the
heart. Somehow your words are opening a space in me
that I usually only capture in moments and this is
because I do not keep consciously to live in this or
to rest in it. So, somehow your words help me to rise
within me, which I guess is what I have been saying
all month, and from there it calls me to remember to
be in my heartspace. And I am constantly recalling
this even as I am driving and whathaveyou. And as soon
as I recall this, to remember my heart, its like my
heart opens up, it opens up and meets that which is
standing right in front of it in a way. I think I just
read something that said to do this, maybe in Vals
sharing or something I have at home, but either way
matched with your words somehow I am able to
consciously remind myself to meet that which is
standing before my heart. I guess that is the only way
I can say it: meet that which is standing before my
And, its not so much obsession as it is 'placement' of
the thought. And when my thought is place in the mind,
it seems to take on a different quality then when it
is placed in my thinking heart. I have a really
peculiar task which I haven't seen anyone else with
yet although I can see pieces of it coming about here
and there. I have not seen it though in any of Rudolf
Steiner's students and I guess I keep thinking someone
is going to come and match me so that we can work it
out together. The others who are leading where I am
don't have the background of spiritual science as
taught by Rudolf Steiner so that takes time to
I will tell you that, well I will ask you, Dan, who do
you see standing in that picture you offered up by
Francesca? (And who the heck is this Francesca, i mean
all these painters with the knowledge of the mystery
is just astounding to me) That is a stunning picture,
not only for the pearl hanging above, but for the
Templar/Rosicrucian revelations sitting within it. I
mean it is absolutely incredible. I mean Archangel
Raphael is there, John the Baptist is there, well at
least his head, and who, who do you think that is
sitting with the child in her lap? Have you thought of
who the people are in that painting? Now I have to do
a study on Francesca, because what he just outed that
is so plain to see for those that, well I don't think
anyone can, can
than what they've been told. its just an incredible
piece of the puzzle for me and very affirming of my
search pertaining to the Three Marys. And it is my
gift to recieve for the Holy Nights.
And, yeah, I get the soul pain of a thing and how that
moves us along. Been kinda born into that, and
thanfully a contemplative mind on it.
> But as "the born of Venera" masterpiece of__________________________________________
> Boticelli, it will be
> from the suffering of the shell that a pearl is
> born, the same shell
> that shows you in its pearl-point the Nathanael
> Child like in this
> Francesca's painting
> I think from its rigid 12 petals shell, the pearl
> will be born in
> Best regards, Dan
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- So, my experience is that Raphael is the healer of the
twin souls. It is he who facilitates the
reunification, the healer of the separation. And he
never works without Sophia, but She is the first one
down and he follows her and then he envelops her and
from there She is able to shine forth Her Light, but
not without him. And their colors are green and
violet, or maybe it is a purple that when the Light
shines through, it becomes violet: they are separate
but then become one within the separation.
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- Hello Dottie,
Yes, I understand your position now. In fact, my english is not so
fine, to understand what it is behind the words and of course, there
is this stone-mode writting conversation, and the word "insanely
deep" has another connotation. I also, try to "forget" what you
wrote, and to realize somehow what's your state of spirit.
Anyway, yes, the Pierro dela Francesca's painting has very specific
meanings. The Rosicrucian/Templar streams are shown, and you will
see the figures of Joan the Baptist, St. Francisc de Assisi, St.
Bernard, and of course, Joan the Evangelist.
The spiritual colours, blue and red you will find there.
Blue as the old initiation performed by the Baptist (maybe you will
remember the piece of Grunewald's altar - where there is the Baptist
pointing to Christ and also to Joan the Beloved holding His Mother)
it is the prefiguration of the etherisation of the blood in the new
mysteries and the spiritual path of Master Rosenkreutz.
As you notice, also, the beloved disciple of Buddha and the mission
of Buddha has a very depthfull meaning in the Rosicrucian stream.
Yes, and more that are shown there.
You may allready noticed that in fact, such books as "Da Vinci's
Code" contains not a poetic, but a true ahrimnaic deception. And the
purpose is not to bring in the heart of human, a sexual relationship
between Jesus and Mary from Magdala, is just the "omission" of the
Joan/Lazarus who's mission is regarded with so deep suffering in
All the best, Dan
> I will tell you that, well I will ask you, Dan, who do
> you see standing in that picture you offered up by
> Francesca? (And who the heck is this Francesca, i mean
> all these painters with the knowledge of the mystery
> is just astounding to me) That is a stunning picture,
> not only for the pearl hanging above, but for the
> Templar/Rosicrucian revelations sitting within it. I
> mean it is absolutely incredible. I mean Archangel
> Raphael is there, John the Baptist is there, well at
> least his head, and who, who do you think that is
> sitting with the child in her lap? Have you thought of
> who the people are in that painting? Now I have to do
> a study on Francesca, because what he just outed that
> is so plain to see for those that, well I don't think
> anyone can, can
> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecontemplate further
> than what they've been told. its just an incredible
> piece of the puzzle for me and very affirming of my
> search pertaining to the Three Marys. And it is my
> gift to recieve for the Holy Nights.
> And, yeah, I get the soul pain of a thing and how that
> moves us along. Been kinda born into that, and
> thanfully a contemplative mind on it.
> Thanks Dan,
> > But as "the born of Venera" masterpiece of
> > Boticelli, it will be
> > from the suffering of the shell that a pearl is
> > born, the same shell
> > that shows you in its pearl-point the Nathanael
> > Child like in this
> > Francesca's painting
> > http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/francesc/p-frances8.htm
> > I think from its rigid 12 petals shell, the pearl
> > will be born in
> > Sophia.
> > Best regards, Dan
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