Re: Gonzo Journalism and the ZeitGeist
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "holderlin66"
> holderlin wrote;"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values
> "Now we have a lesson in how wonderful it would have been to restore
> the Iraq country and people to civilized dignity. Make them Whole.
> Now we must remake ourselves whole for the hole that GWB has eaten
> into the moral fabric of America. But we, the U.S. of Ahriman didn't
> give a shit about restoring a bunch of ragheads to dignity. They
> were thirdworld and needed a superior lesson from us. They needed to
> learn how wonderfully we treat citizens and those who strive for
> Freedom. Well now the U.S. can experience this first hand we are
> meeting our own karmically determined disaster.
or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized
violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
: Samuel P. Huntington
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert
them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and
punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German
cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."- Ann Coulter
"Until lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always
glorify the hunters." - African Proverb
"Today the tyrant rules not by club or fist, but, disguised as a
market researcher, he shepherds his flocks in the ways of utility and
comfort." - Marshall McLuhan - (1911-1980)
"...free enterprise, [is] a term that refers, in practice, to a system
of public subsidy and private profit, with massive government
intervention in the economy to maintain a welfare state for the rich."
- Noam Chomsky
1983 American Heritage Dictionary - fascism is: "A system of
government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right,
typically through the merging of state and business leadership,
together with belligerent nationalism."
"... the United States, for generations, has sustained two parallel but
opposed states of mind about military atrocities and human rights: one
of U.S. benevolence, generally held by the public, and the other of
ends-justify-the-means brutality sponsored by counterinsurgency
specialists. Normally the specialists carry out their actions in
remote locations with little notice in the national press. That allows
the public to sustain its faith in a just America, while hard-nosed
security and economic interests are still protected in secret." -
Robert Parry, investigative reporter and author
"The only place you and I disagree . . . is with regard to the bombing.
You're so goddamned concerned about the civilians, and I (in contrast)
don't give a damn. I don't care.". . . "I'd rather use the nuclear
bomb. . . Does that bother you? I just want you to think big." -
Richard Nixon to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger on the Watergate
"If they do it, it's terrorism, if we do it, it's fighting for
freedom." - Anthony Quainton, U.S. Ambassador to Nicaragua, 1984.
Source: Off the record response of the Ambassador to a group of
concerned U.S. citizens when asked to explain the difference between
U.S. government actions in Nicaragua and the violence it condemns as
terrorism elsewhere in the world.
It is in the nature of imperialism that citizens of the imperial power
are always among the last to know--or care--about circumstances in the
colonies. - Bertrand Russell
To every people the land is given on condition. Perceived or not,
there is a Covenant, beyond the constitution, beyond sovereign
guarantee, beyond the nation's sweetest dreams of itself. - Leonard Cohen
The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out of the
weapons provided for defense against real, pretended, or imaginary
dangers from abroad. James- Madison
Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars,
pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was
the object. This, our  Convention understood to be the most
oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame
the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing
this oppression upon us. - Abraham Lincoln, in an 1848 letter to
God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith, deep and
unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by God to save Germany. -
Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion.
Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom
they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less
easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. -
If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just
so long as I'm the dictator. - George W. Bush, 18 December 2000
International law? I better call my lawyer; he didn't bring that up to
me. - George W. Bush, 12 December 2003
"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our
country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an
artificually induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an
incessant propaganda of fear." - General Douglas MacArthur, Speech,
May 15, 1951
The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win you're still a
rat. - Jane Wagner
"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized
tribes. The moral effect should be good. . . and it would spread a
lively terror." Winston Churchill, Commenting on the British use of
poison gas against the Iraqis after World War I
"I went down on my knees and prayed to Almighty God for light and
guidance and one night late it came to me this way. We could not
leave (the Philippines) to themselves--they were unfit for
self-government--and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over
there worse than Spain's was. There was nothing left for us to do but
take them all and educate the Filipinos, and uplift and Christianize
them.": President William McKinley
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.
Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed
the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war,
and millions have been killed because of this obedience. Our problem
is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty
and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is
that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves,
and all the while the grand thieves are running and robbing the
country. That's our problem.": Howard Zinn, from 'Failure to Quit'
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
character, give him power: Abraham Lincoln
Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. "
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction."- Blaise Paschal
"Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" - Some restrictions may
apply, void where prohibited by law.
- Hey Dottie, maybe you can get Led Zeppelin to play at Elderberries- One of their guys almost became a Waldorf teacher.