Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Archived threads [the demise of the WC]
- At 19:02 01.04.2005, Keith wrote (to Dottie):
>Some say that there is evidence of alien contact in the Bible: Moses' andYou're on target about the ahrimanic nature characterizing this type of
>Ezekiel's contact with what they thought were heavenly beings, and (as you
>mentioned reading) that Jesus was an ET because of his extraordinary
>abilities and message of peace. Is it an ahrimanic deception to say that
>many of the spiritual events in the Bible were ET contacts, creating an
>athestic or materialistic belief which ignores spiritual factors? I'd say
>probably so. However, I can't completely discount ET influence and
>contact, and even mistaken observations on the part of witnesses. What if
>Moses came into contact with Etheric intelligences, and particularly so in
>the case of Ezekiel?
approach to mysteries, which is related to the Kantian "thing-in-itself" -
first "God" as a thing-in-itself, then "aliens" or "ETs." Because Ahriman
is the originator and master of intellect, individual members of the
hierarchies and other types of non-coroporal spirits are better referred to
as "Beings" instead of "Intelligences," because the latter tends to congure
up all kinds of materialistic associations. The Ahrimanic intellect is
sense-bound, brain-bound, dependent upon physiology. There is such a thing
as spiritual intelligence that is totally independent of corporeality, but
that is something entirely different from what we usually associate with
the word "intelligence," which is so much used in the context of science
and science fiction.
What "Biblical" notions are concerned, the idea of the Rapture is about as
close as we can possibly get to the vision promulgated by Gene
Roddenberry's "Star Trek" for four decades. A so-called "trekkie" was
stopped for speeding by the Highway Patrol somewhere about twenty or
twenty-five years ago, and when the patrolman came up to his car and asked
to see his driver licence, the trekkie opened his wallet and began yelling
into it: "Scotty, Scotty, beam me onboard immediately! Urgent!" He kept
this up for about 20 minutes, and the officer was so knocked out by this
luny that he forgot to write him a citation. Fake or no fake, there are
still plenty of trekkies out there, and their sense of reality is extremely
similar to those who drive around with bumper stickers saying: "Warning! In
case of Rapture, this vehicle will be driverless!" Both sets of notions
come from the same source.
- At 15:43 11.04.2005, Pete wrote:
>--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Tarjei Straume wrote:Close to the topic? (forwarding to Dial-a-joke; this has to be a winner.)
> > At 07:13 11.04.2005, Pete wrote to Dottie:
> > >I am correct in pointing out how you have tried to lump
> > >medicine in with holistic medicine to make your point.
> > >medicine may seem holistic to you, but holistic medicine is not
> > >Anthroposophical medicine, neither is Reiki, neither is
> > >chiropractic or other holistic medicines that ARE accepted
> > >today. Anthroposophical medicine is, perhaps, trying to ride on the
> > >coattails of other successful and accepted holistic approaches, but
> > >failing basically because it doesn't work.
> > Anthroposophically extended medicine is practiced by trained, licenced
> > physicians just like any other specialized medical field.
>Anthroposophically "extended" medicine? Sorry, I'm too close to this
>topic to take what you say seriously. Peddle this on someone else Tarjei.
You're extremely ignorant and uninformed: