- Brush fires and being caught in the cross fire of powerful cultural
anomalies, we all better take a minute to understand the conflict of
belief and insight that the WC has against Waldorf Education and
Spiritual Science. Most of us grasp this, but lets look at how
powerful the issue is, instead of how emotionally charged you got in
the battle. It is better to be informed of the whole cultural matrix
than carping, feeling the flames of how egotistical it was to have
been in a little tiny skirmish at the WC...And you come back and
say, look at my battle scars, wasn't I brave? Spiritual Science is
not petty just because of the strength of discernment of universal
clear thought that can be seen everywhere.
We rather aren't always brave at all, rather bathing in semi-
exercises in egotistical squabbling. But behind these conflicts
stands a formidable cross cultural issue that strikes at the heart
of the conflict of Knowledge and the Michael School culture.
Again, lets rephrase this, all over the country and the world there
is this amazing striking conflict of really what can be termed,
superstition-based institutions, which as a trend in society, stands
in disbelief that perhaps a sincere Initiate could have even existed
that could have given some insight into the deeper issues of
humanity. After all aren't we all equal, there can't be exceptional
cases, or are higher beings just advanced stages of the human
family? What allowed Christ to enter into the Human realm? What in
fact is our understanding of god, in the natural growth and vision
of a human being who also naturally has stepped into the higher
education of humanity, called Initiation?
We are in a vast formidable conflict. Oh it isn't as tiny as it
appears at the WC but it is loaded with the vicious cynicism of
denial, it is extremely bitter and our understanding of this bitter
conflict is far better served, by viewing the whole gamut in which
Michael School Intelligence is being met within a vast, vast
framework of inbred, Mephisto and Ahriman evoked cynicism and utter
ignorance... But the roots of the greater issue is this.
"The creationism vs. evolution debate also illuminates this
intolerance. Christians insist that their creation myth represent
the creationist side. But there are many creationist myths, many of
which predated both Christianity and Judaism. If evidence is not
needed, why exclude any superstitions? As Sam Harris notes in The
End of Faith, "there is no more evidence to justify a belief in the
literal existence of Yahweh and Satan than there was to keep Zeus
perched upon his mountain throne or Poseidon churning the seas."
The impact of moving towards "superstition-based institutions" would
be highly controversial, quite educational, and on the whole
exceedingly salutary. Consider the impact on the audience if we
switched the interchangeable terms in President George W. Bush's
following statement, posted on a federal web site:
I believe in the power of superstition in people's lives. Our
government should not fear programs that exist because a church or a
synagogue or a mosque has decided to start one. We should not
discriminate against programs based upon superstition in America. We
should enable them to access federal money, because superstition-
based programs can change people's lives, and America will be better
off for it.
Fanatics and Zealots Destroying the Liberty of Thought
In her magnificent book, Freethinkers, Susan Jacoby describes the
230-year-old battle in the United States between reason and
superstition. She discusses the post-Civil War period in which the
battle may have been most evenly matched.
Robert Green Ingersoll, possibly the best known American in the post
Civil War era and the nation's foremost orator, traveled around the
country arguing about the harm that comes from self-congratulatory,
aggressive and assertive organized religions.
He explained why the word God does not appear in the U.S.
Constitution. The founding fathers "knew that the recognition of a
Deity would be seized upon by fanatics and zealots as a pretext for
destroying the liberty of thought. They knew the terrible history of
the church too well to place in her keeping, or in the keeping of
her God, the sacred rights of man."
Ingersoll believed that reason, not faith, could and should be the
basis for modern morality. "Our civilization is not Christian. It
does not come from the skies. It is not a result of 'inspiration,'"
he insisted. "It is the child of invention, of discovery, of applied
knowledge -- that is to say, of science. When man becomes great and
grand enough to admit that all have equal rights; when thought is
untrammeled; when worship shall consist in doing useful things; when
religion means the discharge of obligations to our fellow-men, then,
and not until then, will the world be civilized."
- At 15:43 11.04.2005, Pete wrote:
>--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Tarjei Straume wrote:Close to the topic? (forwarding to Dial-a-joke; this has to be a winner.)
> > At 07:13 11.04.2005, Pete wrote to Dottie:
> > >I am correct in pointing out how you have tried to lump
> > >medicine in with holistic medicine to make your point.
> > >medicine may seem holistic to you, but holistic medicine is not
> > >Anthroposophical medicine, neither is Reiki, neither is
> > >chiropractic or other holistic medicines that ARE accepted
> > >today. Anthroposophical medicine is, perhaps, trying to ride on the
> > >coattails of other successful and accepted holistic approaches, but
> > >failing basically because it doesn't work.
> > Anthroposophically extended medicine is practiced by trained, licenced
> > physicians just like any other specialized medical field.
>Anthroposophically "extended" medicine? Sorry, I'm too close to this
>topic to take what you say seriously. Peddle this on someone else Tarjei.
You're extremely ignorant and uninformed: