- holderlin wrote: Anatomy and the Word and the Speech organ of the Larynx are shattering, shattering, rich and profound endorsements to our quest for theMessage 1 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View Sourceholderlin wrote:
"Anatomy and the Word and the
Speech organ of the Larynx are shattering, shattering, rich and
profound endorsements to our quest for the pollination of the
Consciousness Soul. Pollination with accuracy not with Fog and
Bradford provides nose bleed hankys instead of tampons;
So here is where this Consciousness Soul area becomes the future
Sentient Soul reality. Get ready to fly people, fasten your seat
belts. The Consciousness Soul is a gradual, slow development of
great ideals to be sure. But now we must, let me say to you, the
Consciousness Soul must be looked upon as a pollination and in
something of the same manner as the wasp and the fig. The
Pollination needed to create the next three higher developments of
soul, are contained in the Imaginations we have been presenting.
Without such grounding we cannot understand Sophia and the birthing
of our higher selves.
Oh, you can have fun with this. But this is where the 21st century,
down stream from our Anthro elders picks up the trail and looks
upstream. Now you will have to tell me if SP covers this ground. I
think he might, but in a different, nicer and maybe even better way
than we have here. But right at this moment flaring in my sight is
one of the keys to coping with the Consciousness Soul mystery we are
engaged in. Christ descends to the Consciousness Soul point...It was
humanity that had to build up the Zarathustrian/Bodhisattva
educational development enough so that Zarathustra, as I AM Central,
could fully offer the highly developed Consciousness Soul for
Pollination by the Christ. This is a big thing and you should re
read this if you have problems.
Pollination, big word, yet I ask you to go back to the origin of
this, Wasp and fig picturing. It is there, an abstract, a nature
mystery known to the ancients that tells of the Consciousness Soul
phases of humanity. But here is how it stands for us. Normally we
have Physical/Etheric/Astral...as a triad factoring. Then we have
Sentient/Intellectual/Consciousness Soul/ as a triad factoring. Then
we have Spirit Self/Life Spirit and Spirit Man as a triad factoring.
So pregnancy, and pollination and fertilization in animals and in
humans really depends on the foundational structures of
Physical/etheric and astral integrations...a triad. However the
animal doesn't need or have an I AM...(here is where any washed out
newbies with new age fantasies about animals should really get off
the bus...Stangers on the Bus, that ride is over, this is the
Michael School not Mom and Pops pagan herb and incense store).
Triad A: P/E/A
Triad B: Is what we are interested in for locating the pollination
of the Consciousness Soul. This shifts upward from animal ability
and Lunar forces to Solar forces due to the Christ Event and Christ
pollination of the Zarathustrian I AM.
By chance, it is the Holy Nights and we heading for the Three Kings
concepts, conceptions; and indeed Three Kings are really our
everything we have in discussion here. Triads. Fact, Herod
slaughters the children, and the Three Kings come looking for
Zarathustra, the great teacher, who just happens to be Jesus of
NaZARATHUSTRA. Location, Location, Location. But we are discussing
the higher pregnancy of the Consciousness Soul and how do we measure
ourselves within our own self deluding education.
Firstly we fail miserably at measuring Dr. Steiner and that is
something I find in aspects of how Stephen 'teases' and antagonizes
his latent intellectual misread of both the ancient world as
idealists and thinkers like us, and Steiner as just like us. Sorry
that is not the case either with Zarathustra or Steiner. In the case
of Zarathustra he could already emancipate, that is give birth to,
copy and hand over his emancipated Etheric body...he could make one.
Produced them, gave them to his friends as gifts...They now had a
child of wisdom, that they could refer to...or tap into as needed.
Zarathustra as an I AM graduate student, which we are not even
close...and this is where Andrea is dead on...We are not even close
to compare and our comparison must reach into the accuracy of what
pregnancy and giving away an Etheric, or giving away an Astral...or
finally, as in Palm Sunday, holding off and doing the final third
trick, giving away to humanity an emancipated model of Atma or
Spirit Man. Zarathustra was on a roll in his Consciousness Soul
All of this pollination, and Solar development happens in the
Consciousness Soul. Steiner not only had as a gift, the Astral body
of Jesus but was working, not finished, but working out of advanced
pollination from the Spirit Self. Certainly if Steiner just
concentrated on his own development that Zarathustrian step would
and indeed could be made... But Steiner paved the way for the
reorganization of Common Sense as the foundation of Spiritual Common
Sense or the Triadic Sophia as Anthrosophic reorganization of common
sense and human intelligence so that all humanity could attain these
Initiation gifts. These are essentiallly Three Kings meditations.
Most of you can ask yourselves, but how did we get here, and what is
Bradford yaking about? Go ahead and ask. You can follow the trail
from concrete Science dealing with Wasp and Fig...to now the kicker
we have to look at that makes us humble and establishes a concrete,
objective determination of when we know we are hitting our TERM or
coming to TERM in our Consciousness Soul. That is why clarification
on what Sentient Soul forces and triadic relations, not like Paul, a
Premature Birth of sorts...can be wonderfully determined.
So my point is, that once we take the I AM into consideration, and
move above the Animal biology and anatomy, which is really,
physical/etheric and astral functions...we come to the next level
where education arises...where Sentient soul function/Intellectual
Soul function and Consciousness Soul function become the stageing
ground for I AM and Christ pollination.
Oh, it no longer depends on any church once you grasp these things
clearly. Indeed the respect of the wafer and the cup had deep
meaning, but now it is meaning that you own. You can reference lunar
and Jeff Foxworthy, you might be a RedNeck, blood line and Sentient
Soul aspects of development, but you can also feel Wonder. Wonder is
really something stunning in all forms of education. Intellect tends
to kill wonder. Poets tend to restore wonder to the dying Intellect.
But the Sentient Soul has some powerful emotional engines in it, to
be sure. But they are based on real Spiritual Experiences. NDE and
any other form of real spiritual world contact is a rejuvenation of
So, Consciousness Soul is the middle triad of pregnancy we are
dealing with. We see that the Earth herself experienced this Dove
pollination and the Dove itself is a Solar aspect of the Word and
the Higher forces of the Astral body or Holy Spirit or even, the
future Spirit Self. It stands as symbol in the Mass, but real in the
thoughts that STeiner brought for the reality of the biology and
anatomy of the Science of the psyche. A psyche rooted in a triadic
anatomy. So in the Consciousness Soul we expect there are ripened
latent capacity forces that made the Three Kings seek out He who
could predict his own Incarnation.
But Bradford added, that what Steiner truly implied, was that after
Zarathustra could produce at will, children without having to have
sex, without needing two sticks to rub together, Zarathustra could
produce a developed emancipated etheric copy and he could produce
emancipated astral copies...of Wisdom....These are the future
children we shall produce. Are we there yet? No. NO we are not and
put away egotism and embrace wonder and awe at how marvelous the
structure of reality is. Have some common sense in the School of
Spiritual Science and the School of Life. Locate where we are
accurately and stop thinking we are about to be awakened by Sophia
when we have not awakened ourselves yet.
We awake by understanding how to overlay the Wasp and the Fig into
the Solar birthing that occurs in the Consciousness Soul. And
Zarathustra came to do the final bit/ with the help of the Christ.
The Father. The final bit was, and here it must be stated for all of
us, Christ came and helped Zarathustra do the deed that mastered the
atomic table of elements as a musician and mastered the entire
genetic model of the human genome....The Lunar mysteries were
conquered and the third mystery, the ATma gift, the Spirit Man gift
was advanced, well ahead of anything humanity understood at the time
or understands now. Zarathustra was on a roll and Christ met
Zarathustra at the level of the Consciousness Soul which looks
almost like looking inside the Fig from the wasps point of view, POV.
But it looks like Pregnancy and the female womb and invagination as
well. But all of us, all we can do is to understand and grow our
highest Sentient Soul/Intellectual Soul and Consciousness Soul
insights together. That is what we can do and we can learn to look
out into the world to see where humanity is getting these things and
some of our Anthrosociety isn't.
Now, said in different way, and I am sure I have heard this said by
SOP...but we have built it up out of sex, drugs and rock and roll
and we have built it up, our vision of the Three Kings, as
understanding Steiner's/Hendrix rendition of the Super Christ Event
using Goethean Science as our foundation.
The beauty of it is, that it is stunning to either read SOP attempt
this meaning, or how you U, U, would attempt to express it. Because
it ramifies into every aspect of culture, from Potty mouthed porno
to the highest mysteries. From Freud and Jeff Foxworthy, to Gandhi
and Nelson Mandela. This time we have not focused so much on the
intellectual soul, but rather the middle triad where we know we are
getting somewhere when we have worked through and clearly understand
some things in our Consciousness Soul that brings about new
abilities. From this, it was Ahura Mazdao and Zarathustra and the
stream of the Three Kings that brought us on this long camel journey
to our own manger. Because the manger is in us and the killing of
the innocents is in us, and it isn't an outer tale any longer but
the journey to produce the final phase of initation that was
prepared so that humanity could conquer the atomic table of elements
and conquer the human genome, because Zarathustra was ready to do
the third trick, to produce a copy and copies of Atma structure for
all of humanity. And for this, the Gods intersected with humanity
brought their own Epiphany to us.
- ... On the positive side, he seems to be trying to encourage people to bear fruit, to be creative, not just structures that grow and die. On the negative side,Message 2 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View Source--- In email@example.com, "holderlin66"
>On the positive side, he seems to be trying to encourage people to
> Why did Christ curse the Fig Tree?
bear fruit, to be creative, not just structures that grow and die. On
the negative side, it feels a bit fear/guilt inducing, which makes me
wonder if Jesus actually did this cursing, or is this more about
unknown authors putting words in Jesus's mouth to fit their own
- Deborah, Fascinatingly revealing. And yet, I m left wondering how any bulk of humanity are to ever arrive at this kind of sleuthing out hidden truths? Or is itMessage 3 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View SourceDeborah,
Fascinatingly revealing. And yet, I'm left wondering how any bulk of
humanity are to ever arrive at this kind of sleuthing out hidden
truths? Or is it that everyone will get what they're able to get on
their own levels, some going straight for the heart via feeling the
Christ vibe, and bypassing entirely the complex symbol swaying that
heads must needs prone to go?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "deborah byron"
> A re-reading of the complex events of Monday during Holy Week (notSunday)
> is very beautifully described by Emil Bock in ways I hadforgotten.
> Please allow me to correct myself.small
> The fig tree was sacred to a spiritual group making its home in the
> settlement of Bethphage situated between Jerusalem and the Mt. ofOlives.
> This small order cultivated a supersensible vision called 'sittingunder
> the fig tree'. Paradoxically, it was these people who gave the assand
> her colt, also considered sacred, for the Christ to ride intoJerusalem.
> At this time, the condition of 'riding on a ass' was understood torefer
> to 'a somnambulent withdrawal from consciousness' which produced asort of
> possession by an evil being.ride
> This state was still prevalent enough that upon seeing the Christ
> into Jerusalem, the crowd gathered there 'fell into the ecstaticone
> withdrawal from ordinary consciousness as they cried Hosanna to the
> who rode upon the ass's colt'.approach
> Bock says that the disciples themselves were confused by Christ's
> to the fig tree (since the fruit was then out of season) andhearing him
> say 'Henceforward shall no man eat of this fig tree forever'. Bycausing
> the fig tree to whither, a bold challenge was issued to the entirerealm
> of ancient ecstatic vision. In 'rejecting the atavisticallyinspired
> Hosannas of the people, their cries changed to 'Crucify Him."Through the
> acts of that day, Christ rejected the temptation to ally himselfwith the
> ancient clairvoyant forces through which he could have foundpublic
> recognition and been crowned a King. Instead His pronouncementpointed
> toward the necessity for 'a new sun-like vision of the heart'direcly
> opposed to 'the old moon-vision which had become unserviceable' tothe
> development of human freedom.thanks.
> My thanks to whoever asked about cursing the fig tree.
> ps: Dottie, I'll look at that website more carefully tonight--
- ... solidly can trace. So solidly that Spiritual Science confirms religion in that it stands on Science, penetrates outmoded social forms, answers powerfulMessage 4 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View Source--- In email@example.com, "holderlin66"
>solidly can trace. So solidly that Spiritual Science confirms
> Reach into your soul and pull up the stunning things that thinking
religion in that it stands on Science, penetrates outmoded social
forms, answers powerful issues and even explores new territory.
Spiritual Science thinking, fleshes out Grail theories, makes
religion as concrete as Science and belief no longer merely some
abstract enjoyment of what "Excalibur" was trying to say.
Werner Erhard said "It's all about enrollment". I think you're doing
some good enrolling there.
- Hi Steve--I don t know much about Emil Bock, whether he was advanced enough to read the akashic record himself or wrote mostly out of confidence in Steiner sMessage 5 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View SourceHi Steve--I don't know much about Emil Bock, whether he was advanced
enough to read the akashic record himself or wrote mostly out of
confidence in Steiner's first hand knowledge. What I can say is that for
me his work radiates a lively colorful warmth that helps me get into a
certain mood where I understand things more deeply. Its like then I can
remember things I already damned well know but have forgotten. Maybe its
part of the blessing of the Holy Nights, when the veil thins out.
So its not that I read Bock like its something external I'm having to
learn but more like Proust's cookie. I guess you either have this
experience or you don't but it ain't just book learnin' or sitting at the
feet of the master. You really can find the image-flow.
Now I need to get outside and stir the 3 Kings preps for my elementals.
- NO we are not and put away egotism and embrace wonder and awe at how marvelous the structure of reality is. Have some common sense in the School of SpiritualMessage 6 of 24 , Jan 1, 2005View SourceNO we are not and
put away egotism and embrace wonder and awe at how marvelous the
structure of reality is. Have some common sense in the School of
Spiritual Science and the School of Life. Locate where we are
accurately and stop thinking we are about to be awakened by Sophia
when we have not awakened ourselves yet.
Dear Bradford, good post. On the point above:) I would like to say
some of us are just getting to know Sophia, some of us are being
courted, and some of us are getting engaged. And it looks to be a
very long engagement process. So, just asking for you to note that
there are different stages to the final awakening and we are all in
And I would like to see if you have any posts regarding the 'naked
child' in Mark, available for a reposting of sorts. I have some
thoughts that are upon me from this book The Wedding of Sophia. I
tell you Bradford, this is a good book for the Michael students who
have done intensive study on alchemy or at least the progression of
Sophia and what that looks like.
1) when looking upon the pictures showing two Marys, one at the feet
and one at the head, do we consider the heavenly and earthly Sophia
and what their substances are now that a 'divine child of man' has
2) The lily as the thing being birthed has to do with Sophia.
3) The idea that, each of us are an unrealized aspect of God, that
when it is finally lifted up or awakened, and connects with Sophia,
we are reuniting God with Itself. And this that is born is called the
filius, which I am wondering if it is that 'naked child' fleeing the
4) The naked child, god realized, can have no part in death, now that
it has been born. And the Christ and Sophia have to die in this for
it to be transformed into God here on Earth. Well, I can't really get
it down but this book is amazing in its inspirations I think. With
the Doctors work down, one can really find something of what is being
spoken by this author.
5) The Magdalene seems to be the only one cleansed to the point of
being able to participate in the 'birth' of this 'divine child of
man' And we can see that in all the passages relating to her. And at
the end of John we see she is the only able to see the Christ. I mean
he specifically appears to her. One would have to ask why that is.
6) In alchemical terms she is the only one to have the 'seven
planets' brought to a further understanding which would also include
those below, represented as chakras. She is the only one so
represented, Bradford, thus.
Happy New Year,
p.s. I appreciated your writings on the fig the other day. That was
really amazing. I love that I can look to you about these scientific
issues pertaining to nature. They are quite insightful.
- holderlin wrote: And for this, the Gods intersected with humanity brought their own Epiphany to us. ... Just as the force contained in the seed of everyMessage 7 of 24 , Jan 2, 2005View Sourceholderlin wrote:
"And for this, the Gods intersected with humanity
brought their own Epiphany to us."
... "Just as the force contained in the seed of every plant is
bound up with the physical forces of the earth, so is the inmost
being of the human soul bound up with the spiritual forces of the
earth. And just as the seed of the plant sinks into the depths of
the earth at the time we know as Christmas, so does the soul of man
descend at that time into deep, deep spirit-realms, drawing strength
from these depths as does the seed of the plant for its blossoming
in spring. What the soul undergoes in these spirit-depths of the
earth is entirely hidden from the ordinary consciousness. But for
one whose spiritual eyes are opened the Thirteen Days and Thirteen
Nights between the 24th of December and the 6th of January are a
time of deep spiritual experience.
Parallel with the experience of the plant-seed in the depths of the
natural earth, there is a spiritual experience in the earth's spirit-
depths verily a parallel experience. And the seer for whom this
experience is possible either as the result of training or through
inherited clairvoyant faculties, can feel himself penetrating into
these spiritual depths. During this period of the Thirteen Days and
Nights, the seer can behold what must come upon man because he has
passed through incarnations which have been under the influence of
the forces of Lucifer since the beginning of earthly evolution. The
sufferings that man must endure in the spiritual world because
Lucifer has been at his side since he began to incarnate on the
earth the dearest vision of all this is presented in the mighty
Imaginations which can come before the soul during the Thirteen Days
and Nights between the Christmas Festival and the Festival of the
6th of January, the Epiphany. At the time when the seed of the plant
is passing through its most crucial period in the depths below, the
human soul is passing through its deepest experiences. The soul
gazes at a vista of all that man must experience in the spiritual
worlds because, under Lucifer's influence, he alienated himself from
the Powers by whom the world was created. This vision is clearest to
the soul during these Thirteen Days and Nights. Hence there is no
better preparation for the revelation of that Imagination which may
be called the Christ Imagination, and which makes us aware that by
gaining the victory over Lucifer, Christ Himself becomes the Judge
of the deeds of men during the incarnations affected by Lucifer's
influence. The soul of the seer lives on from the festival of Jesus'
birth to that of the Epiphany in such a way that the Christ Mystery
is revealed. It is during these Thirteen Holy Days and Nights that
the soul can grasp most deeply of all the import and meaning of the
Baptism by John in the Jordan.
It is remarkable that during the centuries of Christendom, wherever
powers of spiritual sight developed in the right way, it was known
to seers that vision penetrated most deeply during the period of the
Thirteen Holy Nights at the time of the winter solstice. Many a
seer either schooled in the mysteries of the modern age or
possessing inherited powers of clairvoyance makes it evident to us
that at the darkest point of the winter solstice the soul can have a
vision of all that man must undergo because of his alienation from
the Christ Spirit, how adjustment and catharsis were made possible
through the Mystery enacted in the Baptism by John in the Jordan and
then through the Mystery of Golgotha, and how the visions during the
Thirteen Nights are crowned on the 6th of January by the Christ
Imagination. Thus it is correct to name the 6th of January as the
day of Christ's birth and these Thirteen Nights as the time during
which the powers of seership in the human soul discern and perceive
what man must undergo through his life in the incarnations from Adam
and Eve to the Mystery of Golgotha.
During my visit to Christiania last year, it was interesting to me
to find the thought which in rather different words has been
expressed in so many lectures on the Christ Mystery, embodied in a
beautiful saga known as `The Dream Legend.' Strange to say, it has
come to the fore in Norway during the last ten to fifteen years and
has become familiar to the people, although its origin is, of
course, very much earlier. It is the legend which in a wonderfully
beautiful way relates how Olaf Asteson is initiated, as it were by
natural forces, in that he falls asleep on Christmas Eve, sleeps
through the Thirteen Days and Nights until the 6th of January, and
lives through all the terrors which the human being must experience
through the incarnations from the earth's beginning until the
Mystery of Golgotha. And it relates how when the 6th of January has
come, Olaf Asteson has the vision of the intervention of the Christ
Spirit in humanity, the Michael-Spirit being His forerunner. I hope
that on some other occasion we shall be able to present this poem in
its entirety, for then you will realise that consciousness of vision
during the Thirteen Days and Nights survives even to-day, and is in
fact being revivified. A few characteristic lines only will now be
quoted. The poem begins:
Come listen to me and hear my song
The song of a wonderful youth,
I'll sing you of Olaf Asteson
Who slept many days 'tis the truth.
'Twas Christmas Eve when down he lay
And slept so long all unknowing,
He never woke till the thirteenth day
When to Church the people were going.
Yes, it was Olaf Asteson
Who lay so long a-sleeping.
(Translated from a German version
of The Dream Legend, by E.C.M.)
And so the poem goes on, relating how in his dream during the
Thirteen Days and Nights, Olaf Asteson is led through all that man
must experience on account of Lucifer's temptation. A vivid picture
is given of Olaf Asteson's journey through the spheres where human
beings have the experiences so often described in connection with
Kamaloca, and of how the Christ Spirit, preceded by Michael, streams
into this vision.
Thus with the coming of Christ in the Spirit, it will become more
and more possible for men to know how the spiritual forces weave and
hold sway and that the festivals have not been instituted by
arbitrary opinions but by the cosmic wisdom which so often lies
beyond the reach of men's consciousness, yet works and reigns
throughout history. This cosmic wisdom has placed the festival of
the birth of Jesus at the beginning of the Thirteen Days. While the
Easter Festival can always be a reminder that contemplation of the
cosmic worlds will help us to find within ourselves the strength to
conquer all that is lower, the Christmas thought if we understand
the festival which commemorates man's divine origin and the symbol
before us on Christmas Day in the form of the Jesus Child says to
us ever and again that the powers which bring peace to the soul can
be found within ourselves. True peace of soul is present only when
that peace has sure foundations, that is to say, when it is a force
enabling man to know: In you lives something which, if truly brought
to birth, can, nay must, lead you to divine heights, to divine
- Bradford, Quite a contrast between your 11006 post and this 11015 post. An entirely different feel between the two. SteveDMessage 8 of 24 , Jan 2, 2005View SourceBradford,
Quite a contrast between your 11006 post and this 11015 post. An
entirely different feel between the two.
- Where is it written (stated), and by whom, that Christ ever cursed a fig tree? Thanks, JenniferMessage 9 of 24 , Jan 2, 2005View SourceWhere is it written (stated), and by whom, that Christ ever cursed a
Steve Haag wrote:
> ... wonder if Jesus actually did this cursing,
> or is this more about unknown authors putting
> words in Jesus's mouth to fit their own agendas.
- Steve Haag wrote: Quite a contrast between your 11006 post and this 11015 post. An entirely different feel between the two. Ah but which one was Dr. SteinerMessage 10 of 24 , Jan 2, 2005View SourceSteve Haag wrote:
"Quite a contrast between your 11006 post and this 11015 post. An
entirely different feel between the two."
Ah but which one was Dr. Steiner and not B.???
- ... (snip) The Buddhist bodhi (sp?) tree under which the Buddha reached enlightenment was also, by tradition I think, a fig tree. The fig is the only fruitMessage 11 of 24 , Jan 3, 2005View SourceDeborah wrote:
> The fig tree was sacred to a spiritual group making its home in the small
> settlement of Bethphage situated between Jerusalem and the Mt. of Olives.
> This small order cultivated a supersensible vision called 'sitting under
> the fig tree'.
The Buddhist "bodhi (sp?) tree under which the Buddha reached enlightenment
was also, by tradition I think, a fig tree. The fig is the only fruit which
has its flower inside itself - perhaps there lies the symbolism.
- ... a ... Hi Jennifer! It s here,The Gospel of St.Matthew,Chapter 21: 18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. 19 And when he saw a figMessage 12 of 24 , Jan 3, 2005View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jennifer"
> Where is it written (stated), and by whom, that Christ ever cursed
> fig tree?Hi Jennifer!
It's here,The Gospel of St.Matthew,Chapter 21:
18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and
found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no
fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree
Well,Joseph Beuys,the artist,he used to say
"Man braucht nicht hungrig sein"
(one need not be hungry)
- Frank Thomas Smith wrote: Buddhist bodhi (sp?) tree under which the Buddha reached enlightenment was also, by tradition I think, a fig tree. The fig is theMessage 13 of 24 , Jan 3, 2005View SourceFrank Thomas Smith wrote:
"Buddhist "bodhi (sp?) tree under which the Buddha reached
enlightenment was also, by tradition I think, a fig tree. The fig is
the only fruit which has its flower inside itself - perhaps there
lies the symbolism."
Look, I would like to jump for joy here. Brief that you are, in
briefs that you wear I'm sure your a hot ole daddy. But I either
gotta say, well, I should be thankful that he even gave that much
attention, he gave a fig, since, after all his dial up connection
can only stand the strain of short shrift flirtations...but here is
something that could be opened wider than the skirts you chase.
Of course you might have to go towards the upper region of
tintillation, The Thousand Petal Lotus to really get a big hard on.
I certainly would like to see this opened up wider than a high hem
line. What is it with you? Other peoples shit piles are just too
strong a smell and what; you take a sniff and go somewhere where the
sex is cheaper. I need you to be equally horney for heaven, or coo-
coo for coco-puffs.
Here is partial on this. "Until we Have Faces" by C.S. Lewis, is
until we can recognize each other's intuitions with the same
interest that we show for sex we are but poor guests on Goethe's
dull sod. I mean if someone has a neat and interesting, hopefully
solid intuition, there is a new form of interesting scent and sex;
and following the shape of a thought and illuminating it until it
reveals a Face... We might find the Christ facing us from every
aspect of thought. Or we might find Sophia and Anthrosophia flirting
with us. But at least skirt chase thoughts as much as you skirt
chase Gaelman's kilts.
Until we can give some interest, in however you care to express it,
interest in the region, where...look you, Frank grabbed the idea of
flowers on the inside, pollination from within. Has this a real,
esoteric and biological relation to interior thought and
Consciousness Soul development that Zarathustra had already forged
ahead on? OH, and dare anyone, particularly Joel and Stephen, dare
any of you doubt that Steiner could have produced his own Esoteric
children out of himself as Zarathustra did? Go ahead make my day!
Which takes me to such a stunning, stunning relation to the
universal double domed, double pregnancy, womb of worlds that the
1st Goetheanum was, that housed the model for Thinking in the
Spirit; Spirit Navigation; and Science of humanity developing new
foundations for failed common sense. Steiner produced, not for
himself, but for all humanity a model so that this child, his child
or the Spirit World's; Humanities Earthly Child could be touched in
the Seven different woods, seen in the Cupola, heard in the
Word...music, poetry, Eurythmy and Mystery Dramas... So that all of
humanity would understand be able to approach Her...HER in any
season of mating, and from any point on the planet or any point on
the globe. Was this inside the Pollination picturing of the real
reason that it ain't the old Lotus position. Hell if Steiner sat in
the Lotus position and worked on himself the way Buddha and
Zarathustra did, his own little blossoms would have popped. But he
brought right down to the social world, the revelation of the
interior Domes and the Pollination of Worlds.
Oh, I admit differences in Italian and American etheric forces, in
NOrwegian and French, in Brits and people from L.A....I admit the
differences but what in heaven's name, not referring to you Frank,
what in heaven's name do you think Steiner could have done for
himself if he had put the energy into his own little development?
But thanks are in order, and I suppose Frank would have preferred
the thanx and not the ramble, but fuugggettaboutit. You make your
tiny tweeks, and in those tiny tweeks we have interested people who
would certainly like to see at least one of your 'hot' oh so 'hot
thoughts developed to the point of erection. You are allowed to have
some Viagra with those Steiner insights you know. If you want to say
I am jealous and feeling that you just don't flirt enough with
me...well grab yourself a handful Frank. I would like to see how you
light the skies once in a while, I like to see real sunset colors,
thoughts in living color, instead of such little meagre mouse
mouthfuls. Come on Franky open that big yammer, I know you got a
spoonful of goodness in there.
- Thank you, Flemming. Baffling, to say the least. Seems out of character for one so esteemed, too. Peace and Vibes, Jennifer ... treeMessage 14 of 24 , Jan 3, 2005View SourceThank you, Flemming. Baffling, to say the least. Seems out of
character for one so esteemed, too.
Peace and Vibes,
> Hi Jennifer!tree
> It's here,The Gospel of St.Matthew,Chapter 21:
> 18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
> 19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and
> found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no
> fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig
> withered away.
> Well,Joseph Beuys,the artist,he used to say
> "Man braucht nicht hungrig sein"
> (one need not be hungry)
- ... Well, let me see if I got your point. Are you saying that viagra is better than figs? FrankMessage 15 of 24 , Jan 5, 2005View SourceBradford wrote, among many other thngs:
> But thanks are in order, and I suppose Frank would have preferredWell, let me see if I got your point. Are you saying that viagra is better
> the thanx and not the ramble, but fuugggettaboutit. You make your
> tiny tweeks, and in those tiny tweeks we have interested people who
> would certainly like to see at least one of your 'hot' oh so 'hot
> thoughts developed to the point of erection. You are allowed to have
> some Viagra with those Steiner insights you know. If you want to say
> I am jealous and feeling that you just don't flirt enough with
> me...well grab yourself a handful Frank. I would like to see how you
> light the skies once in a while, I like to see real sunset colors,
> thoughts in living color, instead of such little meagre mouse
> mouthfuls. Come on Franky open that big yammer, I know you got a
> spoonful of goodness in there.