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49958Re: Sister's Progress And Relapses (was: Hatred, Untruthfulness, and Alzheimer)

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  • Myla Robert LeMaster-Gruber
    Apr 2, 2012
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      The reference to being raped was going too far, man.

      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@...> wrote:
      > Our Beloved Sister is suffering a severe, albeit temporary, setback;
      > she's backsliding a little. With such tremendous progress she's been
      > making lately, this is not unexpected. Nobody ascends in a straight
      > line, like in a linear diagonal:
      > In real life we all have our ups and downs, our good days and bad days:
      > I must have hit some nail too hard on the head in one of my last posts,
      > because the viper is biting hard this time, ouch! -- characterized by
      > severe paranoia:
      > "Tarjei: "I've been sayhing all along that our Beloved Sister ought
      > to suspend her studies of Steiner a tad"
      > That's what your recent psychotic outbursts are all about, isn't
      > it? That's why you've got to "love" me endlessly, you
      > don't like it that I am studying Steiner. That deserves your scorn.
      > I see. But I'm the one driven by "hate"? Look in the mirror,
      > or in the reflective surface of Saturn, which is supposed to reflect
      > everything back to you."
      > Sweet, sweet Sister, you didn't read my statement in full:
      > "But we're here to help, aren't we? We're here to love and assist;
      > that's what Lovathons are all about. I've been saying all along that our
      > Beloved Sister ought to suspend her studies of Steiner a tad and
      > concentrate at this stage on Biblical Christianity as a primary
      > foundation for anthroposophical Christology and cosmology, which she may
      > pick up again later, illumined by her Biblical studies. And I've always
      > said she ought to focus especially on the apostle Paul: His epistles and
      > the Book of Acts." (My emphasis)
      > You see, some people use Goethe as a foundation for Steiner; others
      > choose Blavatsky, but those authors may be heavy (especially Blavatsky),
      > and nobody has explained the Mystery of Golgotha clearer than the
      > apostle Paul. Our Bewloved Sister may have a strong aversion to Paul
      > because of something that happened to her in the Middle Ages, perhaps in
      > a dark and scary church with sinister ministers, and this may be the
      > reason for this sudden backsliding, but if she can overcome this,
      > salvation and bliss is beckoning her.
      > It's also very disturbing that she sees hate as love and love as hate,
      > as if she carries the symptoms of Orwellian brainwashing: WAR IS PEACE,
      > FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, and IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. This means we still have
      > a lot of work to do with Sister, but like Paul said, love suffereth
      > long, and is kind, envieth not, vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
      > seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, rejoiceth
      > not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.
      > And Brother Frank, throwing those four letter words around like that
      > isn't helping. Use words of loving kindness, holy and sacred and divine
      > words that the higher hierarchies would like to hear and see. When I
      > just wrote some truth too hard for Sister and her friend Alicia to bear
      > -- she says this forum is sick and vile and "an embarrassment to
      > anthroposophy," which is a positive thing coming from her -- it was like
      > sticking my finger into a hornet's nest. The hornets are like extreme
      > wasps, and wasps are almost like bees, and bees make sweet honey. Let's
      > help the Sugar Cherubs change their hornet's nest into a beehive so they
      > can make sweet and tasty honey like they're supposed to.
      > Our Lovathon continues!
      > Tarjei
      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Thomas Smith"
      > <fts.trasla@> wrote:
      > >
      > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ted.wrinch"
      > ted.wrinch@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > "On the other hand, the karma of untruthfulness, especially
      > deliberate, calculating and spiritually harmful untruthfulness with
      > oneself at the center of attention, may also cause Alzheimer I believe."
      > >
      > > And I think that both of you guys should finally learn the axiom:
      > "Don't fuck with Diana!"
      > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/23588
      > >
      > > Frank
      > >
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