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49956Re: Beloved Sister's Pilgrimage (was: Hatred, Untruthfulness, and Alzheimer)

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  • Myla Robert LeMaster-Gruber
    Apr 2, 2012
      Bob Dylan, "Knockin' on Heaven's Door:"


      --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@...> wrote:
      > Our Beloved Sister has been extremely challenged by a legion of demons
      > clinging to her soul, passionate possessive hostility against the Holy
      > Spirit and his messenger lasting for decades, causing her to kick
      > against the pricks day and night, even in her sleep, kicking, kicking --
      > even kicking her husband out of bed so hard he hit the wall because she
      > dreamed he was an anthroposophist. She loves cats, but there was this
      > dude once who dreamt he was kicking a cat, but there was no cat there,
      > so instead he kicked the wall and broke his toe. Yes indeed, our Beloved
      > Sister has been going through a lot, much suffering and many
      > tribulations, but she's a fierce fighter, I know, and she's coming out
      > of it on top, I can see that, because her esoteric studies are promising
      > to pay off, although she keeps running up against obstacles, especially
      > in terms of her own understanding: Her confusion.
      > But we're here to help, aren't we? We're here to love and assist; that's
      > what Lovathons are all about. I've been sayhing all along that our
      > Beloved Sister ought to suspend her studies of Steiner a tad and
      > concentrate at this stage on Biblical Christianity as a primary
      > foundation for anthroposophical Christology and cosmology, which she may
      > pick up again later, illumined by her Biblical studies. And I've always
      > said she ought to focus especially on the apostle Paul: His epistles and
      > the Book of Acts.
      > The latest RS lecture she is grappling with is Lecture 9
      > <http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/TheoRosic/19070602p01.html> in the
      > cycle Theosophy of the Rosicrucian GA 099), titled Planetary Evolution
      > 1, whi8ch she calls "really wild" and "a challenge to summarize." But in
      > spite of her failure to understand all of it -- nobody said
      > anthroposophy was easy! -- there's something like a spark flashing up
      > inside her when she writes:
      > "(If I'm reading this right, it suggests we will one day be gods.)"
      > Christ is knocking and divinity is awakening in her! She's knocking at
      > Heaven's Door, and Heaven is opening!
      > "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall
      > find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." ( -- Luke 11:9)
      > "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
      > open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with
      > me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
      > even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
      > He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
      > churches." ( -- Revelation 3:20-22)
      > In spite of the fact that there are things in Steiner's lecture she
      > doesn't understand, just like every seeker after truth and light is
      > challenged by the grandeur of such magnificent complexity that boggles
      > the mind and silences the wise, -- here is something that obviously sank
      > in very deep:
      > ' Steiner pauses to emphasize: "Take these words quite literally, as all
      > religious documents must be taken." '
      > Exactly, Sister! That's what I've been trying to tell you all along!
      > Read the Gospels and Paul's Epistles!
      > "Correspondences were also proposed to plants and minerals, but I'm
      > afraid I lost track of that. It made no sense."
      > Again, turn to the Bible, Beloved Sister.
      > About plants:
      > "Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and
      > yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like
      > one of these." ( -- Luke 12:27)
      > "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and
      > putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when
      > ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
      > Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these
      > things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words
      > shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not
      > the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were,
      > so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that
      > were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving
      > in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not
      > until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming
      > of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be
      > taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the
      > one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not
      > what hour your Lord doth come. ( -- Matthew 24:32-42)
      > (Read a little Steiner, especially his lectures on the Luke Gospel, and
      > you'll find that the fig tree corresponds to the Buddha's Bodhi tree;
      > these two trees represent the same thing in Buddhism and Christianity. I
      > hope it's all beginning to make sense now, just a little.
      > About minerals:
      > "And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of
      > Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise
      > God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
      > Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace
      > in heaven, and glory in the highest. And some of the Pharisees from
      > among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. And he
      > answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their
      > peace, the stones would immediately cry out." ( -- Luke 19:37-40)
      > Now you may beginning to understand, Dear Sweet Beloved Sister, that
      > minerals are also alive, that they also have a consciousness, just like
      > you and I did on Ancient Saturn.
      > Our Beloved Sister continues:
      > "(As for points of discussion, all I can say is if anyone has any clue
      > what any of this means, please let us know.)"
      > What all this means, or any of it? Mysterious are the ways of the Lord,
      > his wonders to behold, my friend. (I don't think that's in the Bible,
      > but somebody said it once and it sounds pretty good, doesn't it?) But
      > here's what Paul had to say about sacred mysteries for people like you
      > desire to embark upon a path of understanding and initiation:
      > "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
      > charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though
      > I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all
      > knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
      > mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all
      > my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and
      > have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and
      > is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed
      > up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
      > provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in
      > the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things,
      > endureth all things. Charity never faileth: but whether there be
      > prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
      > whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part,
      > and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then
      > that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as
      > a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I
      > became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a
      > glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall
      > I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity,
      > these three; but the greatest of these is charity." ( -- 1 Corinthians
      > 13)
      > As you know, Beloved Sister, charity means love in this King James
      > translation of the Holy Scriptures. And that's what we're all about here
      > at Anthroposophy Tomorrow: Loving you and all your fellow Sugar Cherubs
      > just like Christ loves us all. That's why we have these Lovathons. And
      > just like Paul says, our love for y'all suffereth long, and is kind,
      > envieth not, vaunteth not itself, isnot puffed up, seeketh not her own,
      > is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but
      > rejoiceth in the truth.
      > To Brother Ted I only want to say one little thing: I'm aware that the
      > Sugar Cherubs are gloating in self-satisfaction and teasing you because
      > they seem to have pulled off an April Fool's joke on you, something
      > about wine glasses. And I think you should be very happy on their behalf
      > and rejoice at their joy and thank the gods for the opportunity of
      > giving them such joy. Blessed is he who gives joy to others, whether
      > it's through a simple inspired Lovathon or through the humble service of
      > believing in a joke -- that's what April Fool's Day is all about. If
      > you've been a fool, you've been God's fool.
      > "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of
      > God is stronger than men." ( -- 1 Corinthians 1:25)
      > Tarjei
      > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Ironically, there's one particular Sugar Cherub who won't develop
      > > dementia or Alzheimer or ulcers because of hate. I'm talking about PS,
      > > of course, or Der Staudi if you prefer, who is a different animal from
      > > the others because he seems not to be driven by hate, but by
      > opportunism
      > > and desire for personal attention, and the passionate hatred among the
      > > others serves as an energy he is feeding off. He is also obsessed
      > > alright, but his obsession differs from the average Cherub in the
      > sense
      > > that it's not really about Steiner and anthroposophy and Waldorf and
      > > esotericism, but about himself.
      > >
      > > I noticed that Dennis just called PS on exactly that point, and it
      > > wasn't unexpected that Dan (I don't have a code name for him yet), who
      > > is usually very slow to react, quite patient, jumped in immediately
      > with
      > > an ad hom warning. The reason is very simple: From his very arrival in
      > > Sugarland 11 or 12 years ago, PS has been Dan's favorite and
      > > indispensable pet who is always welcomed with a red carpet VIP
      > > treatment. Why? Well, it's not merely his academic pretenses. The
      > > crucial reason is that prior to the arrival of PS, Dan was going solo
      > > with his Nazi War Dance. Nobody else, not even the most hardcore
      > > Cherubs, shared Dan's obsession with linking Steiner to Hitler and
      > > anthroposophy to Nazism in those days. In this field, PS has done a
      > > momentous amount of hard work that Dan could never dream of
      > > accomplishing. So PS is not only Dan's pet; he's his Golden Goose, and
      > > every post of his is a Golden Egg.
      > >
      > > So Dennis must immediately leave Dan's Golden Goose alone lest he get
      > a
      > > week on the bench. This is what that murderous madman got (who is
      > really
      > > honeysweet on the inside and ready for repentance and salvation
      > someday,
      > > just like Son of Sam and the Hillside Strangler were), which means
      > that
      > > criticizing Dan's Golden Pet is exactly as serious in his eyes as
      > > threatening to kill school teachers by gutting them like fishes. And
      > it
      > > goes to show that Sune was nuked from Sugarland for calling PS a liar,
      > > and I left in disgust after Dan ad home-warned me for calling a
      > > statement of his a lie, although that was clearly an ad statementem
      > and
      > > not an ad hominem.
      > >
      > > Like I said, PS isn't likely to develop Alzheimer, for instance, for
      > the
      > > same reason as the others. He's bilingual for once, and he is obsessed
      > > by personal ambition and intellectual exhibitionism rather than
      > > passionate hatred. On the other hand, the karma of untruthfulness,
      > > especially deliberate, calculating and spiritually harmful
      > > untruthfulness with oneself at the center of attention, may also cause
      > > Alzheimer I believe. I'm not a medical researcher, but I'm thinking of
      > a
      > > character like the late Elizabeth Claire Prophet. What PS can do to
      > > counteract this danger is to learn many more languages, perhaps, but
      > > that's what's expected of professional historians, so he's got his
      > work
      > > cut out for him.
      > >
      > > Tarjei
      > >
      > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ted.wrinch"
      > > ted.wrinch@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Yes, that was my point about the WC denizens shortly after I joined
      > > that group. The words in quotes, I expect everyone remembers, are her
      > > own that she directed against me for her own bizarre reasons. It's
      > very
      > > clear from her comment this morning, and the general behaviour of
      > > others, that they are "feeding [their] own animosity against what
      > [they]
      > > hate". It's not healthy and can only end in tears (or dementia - we've
      > > seen that multi-language ability may help protect against it; I'm sure
      > > it's only a matter of time before evidence becomes available
      > indicating
      > > that hate induces it).
      > > >
      > > > T.
      > > >
      > > > Ted Wrinch
      > > >
      > > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "elfuncle" elfuncle@
      > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Yea -- what was it again? Something like, Why not celebrate and
      > > promote
      > > > > what you love instead of developing ulcers, high blood pressure,
      > and
      > > > > dementia by feeding your own animosity against what you hate?
      > > > >
      > > > > Tarjei
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ted.wrinch"
      > > > > <ted.wrinch@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Over on WC, Diana has thanked Alicia for 'getting her day off to
      > a
      > > > > great start' by pointing her to an article mocking the recent
      > > creation
      > > > > of homoeopathically potentised biodynamic wine glasses. What 'an
      > > > > indescribably sad and pathetic' person she must be to need to
      > > ridicule
      > > > > others in order to make herself and her day 'great'.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > T.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Ted Wrinch
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
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