49956Re: Beloved Sister's Pilgrimage (was: Hatred, Untruthfulness, and Alzheimer)
- Apr 2, 2012Bob Dylan, "Knockin' on Heaven's Door:"
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@...> wrote:
> Our Beloved Sister has been extremely challenged by a legion of demons
> clinging to her soul, passionate possessive hostility against the Holy
> Spirit and his messenger lasting for decades, causing her to kick
> against the pricks day and night, even in her sleep, kicking, kicking --
> even kicking her husband out of bed so hard he hit the wall because she
> dreamed he was an anthroposophist. She loves cats, but there was this
> dude once who dreamt he was kicking a cat, but there was no cat there,
> so instead he kicked the wall and broke his toe. Yes indeed, our Beloved
> Sister has been going through a lot, much suffering and many
> tribulations, but she's a fierce fighter, I know, and she's coming out
> of it on top, I can see that, because her esoteric studies are promising
> to pay off, although she keeps running up against obstacles, especially
> in terms of her own understanding: Her confusion.
> But we're here to help, aren't we? We're here to love and assist; that's
> what Lovathons are all about. I've been sayhing all along that our
> Beloved Sister ought to suspend her studies of Steiner a tad and
> concentrate at this stage on Biblical Christianity as a primary
> foundation for anthroposophical Christology and cosmology, which she may
> pick up again later, illumined by her Biblical studies. And I've always
> said she ought to focus especially on the apostle Paul: His epistles and
> the Book of Acts.
> The latest RS lecture she is grappling with is Lecture 9
> <http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/TheoRosic/19070602p01.html> in the
> cycle Theosophy of the Rosicrucian GA 099), titled Planetary Evolution
> 1, whi8ch she calls "really wild" and "a challenge to summarize." But in
> spite of her failure to understand all of it -- nobody said
> anthroposophy was easy! -- there's something like a spark flashing up
> inside her when she writes:
> "(If I'm reading this right, it suggests we will one day be gods.)"
> Christ is knocking and divinity is awakening in her! She's knocking at
> Heaven's Door, and Heaven is opening!
> "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall
> find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." ( -- Luke 11:9)
> "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
> open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with
> me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
> even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
> He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
> churches." ( -- Revelation 3:20-22)
> In spite of the fact that there are things in Steiner's lecture she
> doesn't understand, just like every seeker after truth and light is
> challenged by the grandeur of such magnificent complexity that boggles
> the mind and silences the wise, -- here is something that obviously sank
> in very deep:
> ' Steiner pauses to emphasize: "Take these words quite literally, as all
> religious documents must be taken." '
> Exactly, Sister! That's what I've been trying to tell you all along!
> Read the Gospels and Paul's Epistles!
> "Correspondences were also proposed to plants and minerals, but I'm
> afraid I lost track of that. It made no sense."
> Again, turn to the Bible, Beloved Sister.
> About plants:
> "Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and
> yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like
> one of these." ( -- Luke 12:27)
> "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and
> putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when
> ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
> Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these
> things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words
> shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not
> the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were,
> so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that
> were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving
> in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not
> until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming
> of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be
> taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the
> one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not
> what hour your Lord doth come. ( -- Matthew 24:32-42)
> (Read a little Steiner, especially his lectures on the Luke Gospel, and
> you'll find that the fig tree corresponds to the Buddha's Bodhi tree;
> these two trees represent the same thing in Buddhism and Christianity. I
> hope it's all beginning to make sense now, just a little.
> About minerals:
> "And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of
> Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise
> God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
> Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace
> in heaven, and glory in the highest. And some of the Pharisees from
> among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. And he
> answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their
> peace, the stones would immediately cry out." ( -- Luke 19:37-40)
> Now you may beginning to understand, Dear Sweet Beloved Sister, that
> minerals are also alive, that they also have a consciousness, just like
> you and I did on Ancient Saturn.
> Our Beloved Sister continues:
> "(As for points of discussion, all I can say is if anyone has any clue
> what any of this means, please let us know.)"
> What all this means, or any of it? Mysterious are the ways of the Lord,
> his wonders to behold, my friend. (I don't think that's in the Bible,
> but somebody said it once and it sounds pretty good, doesn't it?) But
> here's what Paul had to say about sacred mysteries for people like you
> desire to embark upon a path of understanding and initiation:
> "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
> charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though
> I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all
> knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
> mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all
> my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and
> have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and
> is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed
> up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
> provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in
> the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things,
> endureth all things. Charity never faileth: but whether there be
> prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
> whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part,
> and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then
> that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as
> a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I
> became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a
> glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall
> I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity,
> these three; but the greatest of these is charity." ( -- 1 Corinthians
> As you know, Beloved Sister, charity means love in this King James
> translation of the Holy Scriptures. And that's what we're all about here
> at Anthroposophy Tomorrow: Loving you and all your fellow Sugar Cherubs
> just like Christ loves us all. That's why we have these Lovathons. And
> just like Paul says, our love for y'all suffereth long, and is kind,
> envieth not, vaunteth not itself, isnot puffed up, seeketh not her own,
> is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but
> rejoiceth in the truth.
> To Brother Ted I only want to say one little thing: I'm aware that the
> Sugar Cherubs are gloating in self-satisfaction and teasing you because
> they seem to have pulled off an April Fool's joke on you, something
> about wine glasses. And I think you should be very happy on their behalf
> and rejoice at their joy and thank the gods for the opportunity of
> giving them such joy. Blessed is he who gives joy to others, whether
> it's through a simple inspired Lovathon or through the humble service of
> believing in a joke -- that's what April Fool's Day is all about. If
> you've been a fool, you've been God's fool.
> "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of
> God is stronger than men." ( -- 1 Corinthians 1:25)
> --- In email@example.com, "elfuncle" <elfuncle@>
> > Ironically, there's one particular Sugar Cherub who won't develop
> > dementia or Alzheimer or ulcers because of hate. I'm talking about PS,
> > of course, or Der Staudi if you prefer, who is a different animal from
> > the others because he seems not to be driven by hate, but by
> > and desire for personal attention, and the passionate hatred among the
> > others serves as an energy he is feeding off. He is also obsessed
> > alright, but his obsession differs from the average Cherub in the
> > that it's not really about Steiner and anthroposophy and Waldorf and
> > esotericism, but about himself.
> > I noticed that Dennis just called PS on exactly that point, and it
> > wasn't unexpected that Dan (I don't have a code name for him yet), who
> > is usually very slow to react, quite patient, jumped in immediately
> > an ad hom warning. The reason is very simple: From his very arrival in
> > Sugarland 11 or 12 years ago, PS has been Dan's favorite and
> > indispensable pet who is always welcomed with a red carpet VIP
> > treatment. Why? Well, it's not merely his academic pretenses. The
> > crucial reason is that prior to the arrival of PS, Dan was going solo
> > with his Nazi War Dance. Nobody else, not even the most hardcore
> > Cherubs, shared Dan's obsession with linking Steiner to Hitler and
> > anthroposophy to Nazism in those days. In this field, PS has done a
> > momentous amount of hard work that Dan could never dream of
> > accomplishing. So PS is not only Dan's pet; he's his Golden Goose, and
> > every post of his is a Golden Egg.
> > So Dennis must immediately leave Dan's Golden Goose alone lest he get
> > week on the bench. This is what that murderous madman got (who is
> > honeysweet on the inside and ready for repentance and salvation
> > just like Son of Sam and the Hillside Strangler were), which means
> > criticizing Dan's Golden Pet is exactly as serious in his eyes as
> > threatening to kill school teachers by gutting them like fishes. And
> > goes to show that Sune was nuked from Sugarland for calling PS a liar,
> > and I left in disgust after Dan ad home-warned me for calling a
> > statement of his a lie, although that was clearly an ad statementem
> > not an ad hominem.
> > Like I said, PS isn't likely to develop Alzheimer, for instance, for
> > same reason as the others. He's bilingual for once, and he is obsessed
> > by personal ambition and intellectual exhibitionism rather than
> > passionate hatred. On the other hand, the karma of untruthfulness,
> > especially deliberate, calculating and spiritually harmful
> > untruthfulness with oneself at the center of attention, may also cause
> > Alzheimer I believe. I'm not a medical researcher, but I'm thinking of
> > character like the late Elizabeth Claire Prophet. What PS can do to
> > counteract this danger is to learn many more languages, perhaps, but
> > that's what's expected of professional historians, so he's got his
> > cut out for him.
> > Tarjei
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ted.wrinch"
> > ted.wrinch@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, that was my point about the WC denizens shortly after I joined
> > that group. The words in quotes, I expect everyone remembers, are her
> > own that she directed against me for her own bizarre reasons. It's
> > clear from her comment this morning, and the general behaviour of
> > others, that they are "feeding [their] own animosity against what
> > hate". It's not healthy and can only end in tears (or dementia - we've
> > seen that multi-language ability may help protect against it; I'm sure
> > it's only a matter of time before evidence becomes available
> > that hate induces it).
> > >
> > > T.
> > >
> > > Ted Wrinch
> > >
> > > --- In email@example.com, "elfuncle" elfuncle@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yea -- what was it again? Something like, Why not celebrate and
> > promote
> > > > what you love instead of developing ulcers, high blood pressure,
> > > > dementia by feeding your own animosity against what you hate?
> > > >
> > > > Tarjei
> > > >
> > > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ted.wrinch"
> > > > <ted.wrinch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Over on WC, Diana has thanked Alicia for 'getting her day off to
> > > > great start' by pointing her to an article mocking the recent
> > creation
> > > > of homoeopathically potentised biodynamic wine glasses. What 'an
> > > > indescribably sad and pathetic' person she must be to need to
> > ridicule
> > > > others in order to make herself and her day 'great'.
> > > > >
> > > > > T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted Wrinch
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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