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43172Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Massimo Scaligero in english

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  • Andre Gas
    Feb 20, 2010
    Well, there is Scaligero on Facebook, where my same query hasn't been addressed.
    There is also the Antroforum where one can find many Scaligero fans, though Italians of course...I will query that forum as well!!...for sure.
    I don't want to bother anybody, like your friend...unless she would love doing it. It's a tedious task, and it proceeds very slowly, therefore time consuming!!! Fortunately, for the moment I have this time resource available!! :-)

    I am proceeding in a word table, scanned Italian on left, english translation on right, and I am inserting revision notes where I have doubts...there are many to be checked.
    I am attaching this file here.

    Best Regards

    2010/2/20 dottie zold <dottie_z@...>

    Andrea I have a friend who could help, she is native Italian and English and if you have time to work on it she can go through it if you lay the foundation. If not then I say lets get busy and get a group of people together who want to translate the works. I think it is a worthy project. Is there a Scaligiero online group? d

    "Hence only by means of love can we give real help for karma to work out in the right way." Rudolf Steiner

    --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Andre Gas <lonbluster@...> wrote:

    From: Andre Gas <lonbluster@...>
    Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Massimo Scaligero in englishDate: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:35 AM

    Thanks a lot for your words Dotty and Jeff, that's encouraging. Dotty I had wrote a big reply, but I have lost it...sorry!!

    I wanted just to check, as you mention, whether someone else has already worked on part of this book, so we could agree to share the work.

    To me, Healing with Thinking is a more urgent book than others from Scaligero I have read. In translating it I am also helping myself a lot in understanding Scaligero's profound point of view...for now I have time to work on it...it would be nice to have it fully translated so to see what impact it might have, along with The Light.

    Best Regards

    2010/2/20 jeff.baggaley <jeff.baggaley@...>
    OK, thanks Dottie. It is probably just as well that I have not been aware of this 'battle'. It is preposterous on the face of it that Steiner could by any stretch be called an antisemite or a racist.

    Then once you gain any kind of familiarity with Steiner's work, it is clear that all such accusations are made out of either ignorance or agenda.

    I don't know about Scaligero as so little of his work is available in English, but based on what I have looked at it seems extremely unlikely.

    In any event these are the kinds of assertions which really need to be demonstrated.

    When it comes to these kinds of issues we should probably situate them within the context of the New Testament, and those passages directed towards the Jews, as well as the Pharisees and Jewish Talmudic lawyers, specifically those passages which Christ directs towards the Pharisees. If Christ were alive today, in Germany let's say, and said those kinds of things, He would, under current hate laws, whatever those are, be locked up.


    --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, dottie zold <dottie_z@...> wrote:
    > Jeff, it is Peter Staudenmaeir who has been writing about not only Rudolf Steiner being an anti semite and racist but also Massimo Scaligero. He has shown some out of context quotes Scaligero quotes on the critics list as he has done with Rudolf Steiner's works as well. And there has been a battle over this for many years with Steiner students working to get the quotes in context and to call him out on his charges.
    > All good things,
    > Dottie
    > "Hence only by means of love can we give real help for karma to work out in the right way." Rudolf Steiner

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