41027Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Easter thoughts -- and beyond
- Apr 12, 2009Hi Kim, Good Sunday to you,Below is the article wherein the third heart at the back of the head can be referenced. GA 161, May 1, 1915 is the lecture she uses however it is not availabe on elib. I shall see if we can get a hold of this unless Mr. Stewart can make it available.http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://wn.rsarchive.org/RelArtic/GoldM/images/eh_diagram04s.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.rsarchive.org/RelArtic/GoldM/etheric_heart.html&usg=__oEgSox-gWLHmf26ccpRyK_whSQE=&h=274&w=300&sz=3&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=LyMjmg8_RyJFpM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Detheric%2Bheart%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
"If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
--- On Sat, 4/11/09, dottie zold <dottie_z@...> wrote:
From: dottie zold <dottie_z@...>
Subject: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Easter thoughts -- and beyond
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:49 AMKim have you not heard it described by Rudolf Steiner at the back of the head?
An experience I had last night was that the pineal and the pituitary work together in a way when it comes to working with the higher beings...there is a sensation that can be felt at the back of the head and at the top of the head at the same time...I say 'working together' as it was the first time I experienced them at the same time while contemplating their relationship. ...well actually while reading further work in Dennis K.s book. I realized an experience that happens when we study and the Being is working with us, we can experience it in those areas, almost like a 'lighting up' of sorts.
All good things,
> It's description of the interplay between Astral and Etheric body it the
> clearest I have seen until now, here you see how Karma enters our lives.
> The heart is described in it's right place, in the middle, as Christ
> between Lucifer and Ahriman.
> The following <http://roohit. com/f3914> puts us in relation to our sun
> Then when man passes through the gate of death, this ethereal-astral
> structure — wherein the heart is floating, so to speak —
> contains all that man takes with him into his further life of soul and
> spirit, when he has laid aside the physical and the etheric forms. Now,
> as he expands ever more widely in the spirit, he can hand over his
> entire karma to the cosmos, for the substance of the whole cosmos is
> contained within him; it is drawn together in his heart, in the etheric
> body of his heart.
> And with this from Human Questions and Cosmic Answers
> <http://shinyurl. com/bc3e7>
> Saturn InstinctsJupiter Inclinations, sympathiesMars Moral Impulses Sun
> Mercury Sagacity, ClevernessVenus LoveMoon Phantasy, Imagination,
> MemoryAnd <http://shinyurl. com/54b2c>
> Thus the planets near the Sun have to do more with the physicalelements
> in man's organism: solid, fluid aeriform. The planets distantfrom the
> Sun have to do more with the etheric elements in man sorganism. Between
> the two groups of planets is the Sun itself. Theforces of Mercury, Venus
> and Moon bring the human being intoconnection with the solid, fluid and
> aeriform elements. The forces ofMars, Jupiter and Saturn. protect him
> from Rowing away into theWarmth, Light and Chemical Ethers. As you see,
> the effects arepolaric. And the Sun stands between, preventing the two
> groups of planetary forces from interpenetrating.
> The Sun
> These documents give together a macro cosmic and micro cosmic view.
> --- In anthroposophy_ tomorrow@ yahoogroups. com, dottie zold
> <dottie_z@> wrote:
> > So what did you appreciate about that lecture Kim? I have that lecture
> and what I appreciate most about the early students, those that were
> there with Rudolf Steiner, like Ehrenfried Pheiffer, Emil Bock, Willhem
> Zeylmans van Emmichoven, Rudolf Grosse, is that they have first hand
> experience with Rudolf Steiner and also digested the work in such a way
> that helps to flesh it out even further...I appreciate that about those
> > Pheiffer also has a good book on the Chymical Wedding that is also
> really enlightning as well.
> > All good things,
> > Dottie
> > "If there is something more powerful than destiny, this must be the
> human being who bears destiny unshaken." Rudolf Steiner
> > --- On Fri, 4/10/09, Kim kimgm@ wrote:
> > From: Kim kimgm@
> > Subject: [anthroposophy_ tomorrow] Re: Easter thoughts -- and beyond
> > To: anthroposophy_ tomorrow@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 2:30 PM
> > Hello Dottie,
> > I found this text "The Human Heart " A Lecture By Rudolf Steiner
> Dornach, May 26, 1922 GA 212
> > yesterday, and it's really interesting.
> > Love,
> > Kim
> > --- In anthroposophy_ tomorrow@ yahoogroups. com, "dottie zold"
> dottie_z@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Taz, I wanted to say that these thoughts on the heart are really
> important, not just because of the thinking but also because of the
> capacity latent within it: the heart is an organ that experiences the
> warmth, which is light, which, when one is working lawfully, one has the
> experience of the Christ: it is in the heart that one experiences the
> Christ, not in religion, in the heart. It is through the heart forces
> that we learn to 'breathe light' versus breathing air. It is crucial
> that we can experience this in our imagination and then it rises to
> intuition and from there we begin to work with this 'breathing of light'
> within the spirit body itself, the one that we are forming and righting
> through our actions, all kinds, thinking, feeling, and willing.
> > >
> > > In How Can Mankind Find the Christ Again? December 22, 1918 we find
> > >
> > > " The Christ is a Being, through Whom the rest of humanity can
> receive what they cannot receive through physical birth...we must be
> born twice; the first time through the forces of nature, the second time
> through the forces of Christ Jesus."
> > >
> > > Dottie: Now, the place where this is reconciled is in the heart when
> our blood is working towards etherization. I say etherization in the
> sense that the blood is connected to the moral element in man and when
> man rises so does the content of his blood transform and that which is
> of Christ becomes realized within him.
> > >
> > > Frank Chester, who has found the geometry of the heart, and is a
> part of the conferences taking place on East and West coast in the next
> few weeks, speaks of the heart as n organ goes from periphery to center
> and center to periphery, there is something that serves as an actual
> 'eye' of the heart that moves in this manner. It seems to me that the
> heart shows exacly mans own development here on the earth, the heart as
> an organ, and its regulating of the blood, the balance of inner and
> outer, shows us, explains to us, what our consciousness is going
> through, is working on and developing into, the heart as an organ is the
> example of man in the world. So is my thinking.
> > >
> > > Rudolf Steiner again:
> > >
> > > On the etheric body ~ "For the chief forces working in us from the
> etheric body, out of the depths of our being, are those expressed in a
> man's capacity for loving at every moment of his existence."
> > >
> > > Dottie: We experience this warmth as a grace, we experience this in
> the vicincity of the heart. The etheric heart it is said, the third one,
> is at the back of the head. If we follow the Medula Oblongata it seems
> to me that we can follow how it is the forces of the blood move up to
> the head wherein we find the pineal and also pituitary glands. Now these
> glands play an important part of our ongoing development and actually
> show how and where it is that we need work: we either allow the higher
> worlds to work down into us or we allow the lower forces to work upward:
> all this is seen in the brain and then its connection to the heart
> forces forming at the back of the head.
> > >
> > > Something has to transform when we wake up the Will in love, a
> lawful love, an objective love, one that does not play sides out of
> antipathies and sympathies.. .and this is what I have always always
> appreciated about Tarjei more than anyone I know: he doesn't play sides
> like that, he is objective and he has a pure integrity when it comes to
> spiritual science.
> > >
> > > Frank Chester says that the fifth chamber that is forming can not be
> seen. With the beat of the heart it forms and then disappears
> immediately. ..it is an ongoing element that keeps moving...it seems to
> me that this must also be the picture imagination of how it is that the
> other four, I imagine at some point representing our attainments as a
> humanity towards the ego, were formed within the womb: off of that which
> was already attained as an ongoing evolution of body, spirit, and soul.
> > >
> > > I will share when I get another moment, the quote by Dennis K. in
> his book Seeking Spirit Vision. In here he speaks of how the womb births
> forth in the physical whereas the pineal or pituitary, cannot recall
> which one, births forth images....for me this is speaking towards the
> 'light and the warmth' that is creating the next level of development in
> the Sixth Epoch, the Christ birth in us.
> > >
> > > All good things,
> > > Dottie
> > >
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