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35150Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Vorstand

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  • dottie zold
    Dec 1, 2007
      I don't think its feelings necessarily Taz, I think
      its more from a responsibility to the higher beings in
      thier work towards elevating man through various
      teachers that offer such work as Rudolf Steiner has
      for this consciousness soul age. To let Tom just vomit
      whatever he wants and to have it taken possibly as a
      truth, due to the fact that he can put two words
      together in an intelligent manner, is the issue. It's
      the exact same thing that Staudenmaier does, I mean
      down to a t. I think someone has to make a stand when
      such ignorance as taking pot shots via the lower ego
      jealousy stream occurs with half truths and the other
      half innuendo.

      All good things,

      --- elfuncle <hisholiness@...> wrote:

      > Dottie wrote:
      > >
      > > You know Taz, I just don't think it fair or a good
      > > thing to take pot shots at people because they
      > have
      > > either acheived something you are jealous of as
      > you
      > > wish it were you and your ideas and your obviously
      > > brilliant mastery of Rudolf Steiner's work, or
      > have
      > > found themselves in a position that represents the
      > > works they wish themselves were representing at
      > the
      > > highest level in regards to what it looks like
      > > outwardly. I never liked this jealousy. I can
      > better
      > > work with ignorance or hateful feelings etc. but
      > to be
      > > dealing with those with this petty character of
      > > jealousy it just never sat well with me. And to
      > see
      > > those in certain positions as the Vorstand I just
      > > don't think it right to tear them down due to that
      > > specific fact. And if you tear down everyone
      > because
      > > of your obviously brilliance then something is
      > sorely
      > > lacking.
      > I can appreciate all of that, but you're playing
      > feelings here, like
      > jealousy and your reactions to such. Those are
      > luciferic cards, dealing
      > with such feelings, and it's quite possible, one
      > could conjecture, that
      > Tom is jealous of something, but observe also that
      > he's keeping those
      > cards close to his chest while playing the ahrimanic
      > ones, cards that
      > are only laced with a little luciferic tinge as
      > bait....
      > So as previously said, initially by Tom himself,
      > you're playing with
      > Ahriman's advocate and therefore with Ahriman,
      > playing with words and
      > their definitions like Peter S, moving into a realm
      > where feelings and
      > moral judgements are totally irrelevant. Peter S,
      > for instance, said
      > that racism and morals/ethics have nothing to do
      > with each 0ther, that
      > racism and its definition is only an intellectually
      > stimulating topic to
      > pursue. And now Tom is doing the same thing with
      > anthroposophy, racism
      > and what have you. But his agenda is different. He's
      > not only here to
      > collect notes for his propagandizing articles and
      > books to be published
      > later on; he's here to play games with the special
      > hope that he'll get
      > people's luciferic knee-jerking riled up by pushing
      > the right buttons.
      > So if you keep your luciferic cards closer to your
      > chest like Tom is
      > doing, more work will be required to figure out what
      > buttons to push, or
      > where those buttons are. In the meantime, you should
      > play your ahrimanic
      > cards, because you're in the Devil's poker game.
      > Learn how to bluff,
      > when to raise the stakes, when to fold etc. Checkie
      > thissie, baby:
      > <http://youtube.com/watch?v=qmzAkAubzTs>
      > On a warm summers evenin' on a train bound for
      > nowhere,
      > I met up with the gambler; we were both too tired to
      > sleep.
      > So we took turns a starin' out the window at the
      > darkness
      > til boredom overtook us, and he began to speak.
      > He said, son, Ive made a life out of readin' peoples
      > faces,
      > And knowin' what their cards were by the way they
      > held their eyes.
      > So if you don't mind my sayin', I can see youre out
      > of aces.
      > For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some
      > advice.
      > So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last
      > swallow.
      > Then he bummed a cigarette and asked me for a light.
      > And the night got deathly quiet, and his face lost
      > all expression.
      > Said, if you're gonna play the game, boy, ya gotta
      > learn to play it
      > right.
      > You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold
      > em,
      > Know when to walk away and know when to run.
      > You never count your money when you're sittin' at
      > the table.
      > Therell be time enough for countin' when the
      > dealin's done.
      > Now ev'ry gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
      > Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to
      > keep.
      > cause ev'ry hands a winner and ev'ry hands a loser,
      > And the best that you can hope for is to die in your
      > sleep.
      > So when he'd finished speakin', he turned back
      > towards the window,
      > Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep.
      > And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke
      > even.
      > But in his final words I found an ace that I could
      > keep.
      > You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold
      > em,
      > Know when to walk away and know when to run.
      > You never count your money when you're sittin' at
      > the table.
      > Therell be time enough for countin' when the
      > dealin's done.
      > You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold
      > em,
      > Know when to walk away and know when to run.
      > You never count you r money when you're sittin' at
      > the table.
      > There'll be time enough for countin' when the
      > dealin's done.
      > I know you can't read Tom's face directly, but you
      > can construct it
      > clairvoyantly from his posts, and then you'll have
      > his number.
      > > To change people's names like he did in the
      > subject
      > > line is just bullying and demeaning to others.
      > Putting someone's name in the subject line is poor
      > netiquette pure and
      > simple. And the best way to deal with that sort of
      > thing is stop
      > fellashippin' with them until they repent and mend
      > their ways.
      > Now here's a little something for Mr Mason, whose
      > lucy-buttons are
      > pushed bigtime whenever some strung-out holocaust
      > denying nutjob haqs
      > been kicked out of the Anthro-society.
      > Hmmm... maybe that's Carol in the Sky....
      > Tarjei

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