30605Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Credibility
- Feb 6, 2007--- gaelman58 <gaelman58@...> wrote:
F:> > Gaelman, you a mon arfter me own heart. Now how
> aboutBut very easy to make a convincing argument against
> > apply some of that logic to papal infallibility!
> > Frank
> Frank: You'd of course know that any modern man
> would be hard put to
> make a convincing intellectual case for Papal
> Infallibility...or the
> influence of the celestial hierarchies...or for that
> matter, the
> Resurrection itself, eh?
the possibility of papal infallibility.
>You don't need theological subtleties, all you need is
> Years ago I did a bit of reading about that
> particular dogma and came
> up empty. The theological subtleties were beyond my
your own logic to realize that no man is infallible
just because HE (or anyone else) says so.
> elements of Anthroposophy that lie beyond my"Conscience
> intellectual grasp as
> well. In any event, the truth or falsity of Papal
> Infallibility gets
> trumped in my mind by what I read in the
> Catechism...e.g. "Conscience
> is the aboriginal vicar of Christ" and "Man has the
> right to act in
> conscience and in freedom so as personally to make
> moral decisions.
> is the aboriginal vicar of Christ" I don't get that;it must be *very* subtle.
> 'He must not be forced to act contrary to hisLoverly, late but loverly.
> conscience. Nor must he
> be prevented from acting according to his
> conscience, especially in
> religious matters'".
>I haven't had bad experience in the Church, at least
> I do Catholicism. You don't. I suspect it's a
> matter of conscience
> for both of us...conscience, but more importantly,
> experience. I
> haven't had bad experiences in the Church. I assume
> you have.
not of the kind I think you mean. The only thing is
the insult to my intelligence.
> don't have your antipathy toward the Church but INo experience other than yours; all you need to be is
> will not say your
> antipathy does not have its justification...after
> all, what the hell
> do I know about your experience.
objective and see through the bullshit.
>Impeach the Pope? How many divisions does *he* have?
> I can't say I agree with your recent call to impeach
> the Pope...oops,
> my bad, ...you were referring to that guy with the
> good-looking wife,
> eh?...regards, McCann
Frank Thomas Smith
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