23979Re: Celebrating RS Death Day (Enneagram)
- Apr 6, 2006--- In email@example.com,
"holderlin66" <holderlin66@...> wrote:
> What a refreshing breath of fresh air. Christ walking on water,seas,
> etheric or otherwise, what lame ass research about the frozen
> it was brought up on this list or another long ago and frozenwater
> was postulated by some dim wit, I forget who. Now comes this,Steve
> called it dead on, just cheap crappy science to fill in thedeadness
> of those who don't understand why they are numb. I keepexperiencing
> the shock of the numbness for those who actually feel a hollowthat
> something else should be there, something vast andpenetrating,
> Grail Science, pulsing in culture and full of life. And I canthat it
> experience the numbness the painful, 'whatever' numbness
> isn't there and it can't be found and they don't have a clue howto
> navigate their thoughts towards it. Grants and money to sayany kind
> of human nonsense because Spiritual Science aka Miracleisn't really
> possible. Humans are so deeply in the hole that looking downis like
> looking up.Look's like they caught a big fish-or to quote the professor-a Holy
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: April 5, 2006
Scientists have discovered fossils of a 375 million-year-old fish,
a large scaly creature not seen before, that they say is a
long-sought "missing link" in the evolution of some fishes from
water to a life walking on four limbs on land.
University of Chicago
A model of the 375 million-year-old fish, which exhibits changes
that anticipate the emergence of land animals.
In addition to confirming elements of a major transition in
evolution, the fossils are widely seen by scientists as a powerful
rebuttal to religious creationists, who hold a literal biblical view
on the origins and development of life.
Several well-preserved skeletons of the fossil fish were
uncovered in sediments of former stream beds in the Canadian
Arctic, 600 miles from the North Pole, it is being reported on
Thursday in the journal Nature. The skeletons have the fins and
scales and other attributes of a giant fish, four to nine feet long.
But on closer examination, scientists found telling anatomical
traits of a transitional creature, a fish that is still a fish but
exhibiting changes that anticipate the emergence of land
animals a predecessor thus of amphibians, reptiles and
dinosaurs, mammals and eventually humans.
The scientists described evidence in the forward fins of limbs in
the making. There are the beginnings of digits, proto-wrists,
elbows and shoulders. The fish also had a flat skull resembling
a crocodile's, a neck, ribs and other parts that were similar to
four-legged land animals known as tetrapods.
The discovering scientists called the fossils the most
compelling examples yet of an animal that was at the cusp of the
fish-tetrapod transition. The fish has been named Tiktaalik
roseae, at the suggestion of elders of Canada's Nunavut
Territory. Tiktaalik (pronounced tic-TAH-lick) means "large
shallow water fish."
In two reports in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature, the
science team led by Neil H. Shubin of the University of Chicago
wrote, "The origin of limbs probably involved the elaboration and
proliferation of features already present in the fins of fish such as
Dr. Shubin, an evolutionary biologist, let himself go in an
interview. "It's a really amazing remarkable intermediate fossil
it's like, holy cow," he enthused.
Two other paleontologists, commenting on the find in a separate
article in the journal, said that a few other transitional fish had
been previously discovered from approximately the same Late
Devonian time period, 385 million to 359 million years ago. But
Tiktaalik is so clearly an intermediate "link between fishes and
land vertebrates," they said, that it "might in time become as
much an evolutionary icon as the proto-bird Archaeopteryx,"
which bridged the gap between reptiles, probably dinosaurs,
and today's birds.
The writers, Erik Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden and
Jennifer A. Clack of the University of Cambridge in England, are
often viewed as rivals to Dr. Shubin's team in the search for
intermediate species in the evolution from fish to the first
animals to colonize land.
In a statement by the Science Museum of London, where casts
of the fossils will be on view, Dr. Clack said the fish "confirms
everything we thought and also tells us about the order in which
certain changes were made."
H. Richard Lane, director of paleobiology at the National Science
Foundation, said in a statement, "These exciting discoveries are
providing fossil 'Rosetta Stones' for a deeper understanding of
this evolutionary milestone fish to land-roaming tetrapods."
The science foundation and the National Geographic Society
were among the financial supporters of the research. Besides
Dr. Shubin, the principal discoverers were Edward B. Daeschler
of the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia and Farish A.
Jenkins Jr., a Harvard evolutionary biologist.
Michael J. Novacek, a paleontologist at the American Museum of
Natural History in Manhattan, who was not involved in the
research, said: "Based on what we already know, we have a very
strong reason to think tetrapods evolved from lineages of fishes.
This may be a critical phase in that transition that we haven't had
before. A good fossil cuts through a lot of scientific argument."
While Dr. Shubin's team played down the fossil's significance in
the raging debate over Darwinian theory, which is opposed
mainly by some conservative Christians in the United States,
other scientists were not so reticent. They said this should
undercut the creationists' argument that there is no evidence in
the fossil record of one kind of creature becoming another kind.
One creationist Web site (emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid1.htm)
declares that "there are no transitional forms," adding: "For
example, not a single fossil with part fins part feet has been
found. And this is true between every major plant and animal
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