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  • Bobby Matherne
    ... Glad you liked the Oreos! I understand your fear of losing a long email in the process of writing it. Mine emailer allows be to do a Send Later, which
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      Jan wrote:

      > From Jan – Dear Bobby, Sorry it is hard to read. It is not written that way, it’s just that I am always losing posts into thin air (or cyber space where the lost posts go) when I post direct, so tend to write in word and then cut and paste. Also I am using an I Mac – don’t know if it makes a difference. I’m not very good with computers! Thanks for the poem – great stuff. And a great pic of a dog! Jan

      Glad you liked the Oreos!

      I understand your fear of losing a long email in the process of writing it.
      Mine emailer allows be to do a Send Later, which freezes a copy of the
      email I'm writing. Or a Save Draft or Save Template. If you have any of
      those capabilities they can be a big help.

      But I sometimes compose long ones in Word Perfect to have an easy and
      comprehensive speller checker, etc, at my finger tips. When I do use a word
      processor first, I always make absolutely sure that I never hit an ENTER
      key to end an line! That will cause the kind of glitch your post created.
      [I copied your email I received into WP and removed all the ENTERs [called
      Hard Rights or HRTs] except for paragraphs, then copied it back into new
      message window and sent it.

      When using a Word processor to create an email, ONLY hit ENTER when you
      complete a paragraph and want to start another. Let everyone's email
      program decide what is a end of line -- they'll do it anyway and this will
      avoid the zig-zag lines that are so hard to read. You won't see it unless
      you send it to yourself first. My Send Later allows me to see it the way
      you'll see and fix the glitches so you won't see them.

      Try that next time and see how it works for you.

      Our big Schnauzer is a male named Steiner and our new puppy Schnauzer is
      named Ita. We're hoping for offspring down the road,

      all the best,

      Bobby


      --
      ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ ><(((°> <°)))>< ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
      "An Outline of Occult Science, Ch 1,2,3" by Rudolf Steiner
      http://www.doyletics.com/arj/occsc123.htm
      October Good Mtn Press Digest
      http://www.doyletics.com/digest41.htm
      Reviews by Bobby Matherne ~ New Orleans, Louisiana
    • Jan
      ... Re: [anthroposophy] The Wonder of Dogness On 1/10/03 9:54 pm, Kevin Dann wrote: Jan and Bobby, Bobby, thanks for recomposing Jan s
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        Re: [anthroposophy] The Wonder of Dogness On 1/10/03 9:54 pm, "Kevin Dann" <kdann@...> wrote:

        Jan and Bobby,

        Bobby, thanks for recomposing Jan's meditations on the wonder of
        dogness, which are a great gift to me as one of those rare people who
        doesn't have an instinctive and all-encompassing love of the canine
        clan. But this meditation inspires me to be more appreciative of the
        redemptive possibilities that the dog can teach the human being. Thanks
        too for the reminder about Konig's Camphill impulse as a beautiful
        compassionate counterweight to Rassenhygiene (which got so much of its
        momentum from American scientific racism--I hold the two impulses in
        tension in a book I wrote called _Traces on the Appalachians: The
        Naturalist Myth in America_ (Rutgers University Press: 2000) )

        I had no idea that remote viewing had entered the corporate arena, and
        yet just this hour I heard from a friend who runs a wonderful
        furniture-making business nearby, that he had been to a seminar on sales
        and marketing, and the leader had told the participants that they should
        imagine at each sales call that they make that the potential client has
        two beings always on their shoulder--a devil on one side and an angel on
        the other, and it is their task to make sure that the devil never gets a
        word in edgewise. Hmm, I'd say that even in this image the Old Boy is
        having his say.

        Best wishes,
        Kevin



         Hello Kevin, your book sounds interesting.  The Eugenics movement was big in England, where it seems to have taken hold with Frances Galton, a cousin of Darwin.  Also Bernard Shaw, the socialist Webbs, Keynes and many others. In America (as you will know better than I) was the Carnegie Institute and John D Rockefeller, and Henry Goddard’s intelligence test.  No dog would be bothered with it!
        Jan


         
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      • holderlin66
        Bradford comments; To be concerned about warmth ethers and how warmth, joy and compassion is bottled into a furry reflection of type of warmth ethers, is
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          Bradford comments;

          To be concerned about 'warmth ethers' and how warmth, joy and
          compassion is bottled into a furry reflection of type of warmth
          ethers, is something we should be concerned about. How do you develop
          clarivoyant faculties? You begin to understand how the various types
          of dogs interface with various soul capacities in humans. The human
          warmth ethers, attempt to find reflections in their dogs. The Dogs
          semi, and most times reflect the type of warmth ethers that are tuned
          to the owner.

          This 'warmth ether' is part of the distributed temperaments of fire,
          air, water and earth that arise out of the cosmos and are distributed
          with unique 'musical' and tone qualities that make matter, scent and
          sense along with etheric and warmth ether affinity. For students of
          Spiritual Science, please unlock the complex blockage you have in
          regarding Concepts of Spiritual Science hard to understand. It is
          simply looking at the dog...and understanding that Salamander fire
          spirits of warmth ethers, cultivated between owner and dog, become
          tuned to the human who owns the dog. The elemental community has
          found a window of bonding that supports the cosmos. Observing this in
          the instant, fiery, nerve sense, ariel as in Shakespeare's ariel,
          thought tinged connections that the Border Collie is receptive to;
          The Lab or heart warmth ether, the feeling life ethers, that various
          dogs have affinity to, and the Pole of negative, fighter model, will,
          and aggressive, Choleric dog forces that arise not in phlegmatic
          relations to the will, but in fighter and aggressive relations to
          human will. There is a complete Imagination Tree of rainbowed, multi-
          refined colors and spectrums that range and are shed from the human
          into nature. This wide spectrum of colors, are living chunks of Dog
          Breed. You can find and relate and begin to understand the area of
          warmth ethers, in the basic astral field of observation, by
          undetrstanding the various capacity of dogs.

          There are tight, highly strong, never sense dogs, who yip, snap and
          act like a little know it all brain in a bottle of fur. They use
          antipathy as a nerve sense ether force, just as thinking uses
          antipathy for freedom to approach concepts and other I AM's. This
          antipathy is antidoted but as Jan has indicated, people smell
          differences of Political and Spiritual Ideology.. Smell is the
          profound Scorpio capacity that runs deep into the organism, but
          attaches itself to the upper sphere of nerve sense organism in humans.

          So if we observe the new etheric forcs of compassion, and wish to see
          the water shed of how this Sentient and astral force is brought into
          relation to warmth ethers and astral systems. We observe the amazing
          variety of breeds in the dog community. Anyone who wishes to mount
          out further to Horses... or check out the highly intense vibrations
          of the humming bird, begin to understand the clairvoyant field
          observations that reveal exactly what has been discussed with Karl
          Konig and others, Poppelbaum and great Michael School researchers,
          that nature forces and beings are throw offs of human spiritual
          forces in order to isolate the micro tuned, human being we see before
          us.

          Shakespeare raised this isolated Air/Warmth Ether Being into an
          elemental servant. It is an Initiation text of reality to say that in
          Shakespeare's Tempest, he had emancipated a portion of his Astral
          body, in a Spirit Self level Initiation. It is clear through various
          researchers that the entire body of Shakespeare's Plays are overseen
          by a highly humanized, Christian Rosenkreuz elemental Being that was
          freed through a Shakespeare Initiation. This Ariel elemental being
          acts as the archangel/angel force of a human capacity that achieved a
          tiny emancipation of the elemental beings which are bound up to the
          karma of the human being. We are all given a whole host of elemental
          beings and our actual job is to free them up so that they can serve
          higher tasks.

          All of Shakespeare's Plays are hovered over and enter into the Air
          and Lungs of those who begin to be tutored through the arts of Word
          and Stage... so on the Stage is a mini, Air pocket of freedom for the
          Ariel Beings inside of each human, the Air and Warmth Ethers to come
          to Word and Spiritual education and raise language and thought out of
          the Sentient Soul. A dog is a training ground for a higher Initiation
          capacity. A human bonds with certain elemntal forces and as I have
          indicated, the Border Collie, for my observation is the closest range
          and field observation you can come to, when observing the amazing
          swiftness of how Ariel could scour the astral world for information
          and bring back warmed inuitive insights that lead the soul into the
          higher worlds.

          Now each of us have refined spectrums of warmth ethers that shed
          themselves off into nature. The intimate nature of our own elemental
          ariel could be compared to having a trained humming bird, only in the
          astral world. Ariel rises from the warmth ether Initition of
          Intelligence and warmth and allowed Shakespeare to bring together the
          musical and spiritual relationships that transcend and reflect
          essential life dynamics as an economical window into the Devachan
          world of karmic and dynamically tailored lessons of designed by
          Angels for the Incarnation lessons of human beings. The crisis models
          and drama models are intimate Etheric lessons plays, plans of how the
          devachan and astral lessons were life musical condensations.

          What I have indicated here, is the most advanced research in drama
          around today. But it can be built out from the simple observations of
          warmth ethers and the development observations that are simple and
          true to our own lives. So in this mighty intimacy of pets, astral and
          warmth ether observations, weaves the higher intimacy of the Christ
          Event and the Christ imbued ethers and the Initation forces that are
          managed by the CEO of the the Christ Event, Christian Rosenkreuz.
          These names are not meant to be more complex, but rather, take stock
          in the close observations around one and see what Astral and Warmth
          ethers reflect in the sphere of the natural world around us.

          What follows is some wonders of the Dogness theme from the Native
          Americans. The quote I pull out, particularly reflects the Warmth
          Ether forces that are harbored in the dog. Warmth and fire ethers
          that when one reads the myths correctly you find simple verification
          of everything Steiner brought forward. But Steiner is not as complex
          as one would think.

          http://www.indiandogs.com/nativelegends.htm

          "A legend of the Achomawi tells of a great flood that put out all the
          fires, leaving the people with no way to cook. From the top of Mt.
          Shasta, they saw a wisp of smoke rising in the west, so they set out
          toward it, carrying torches of cedar bark. Dog hid a plug of punk in
          his ear.

          By evening, they reached the camp where fire was still burning. They
          asked if they could warm their hands and gathered around the fire.
          Dog lay down with his ear next to the blaze. Suddenly, the people
          thrust their torches into the fire, and then ran with their
          treasure. The fire owners were angry and knocked the torches out of
          the people's hands. They then caused a magic rain to fall and put
          out the torches.

          So the people were forced to return home with no fire. When they
          arrived, Dog complained that he was hot. The people were angry and
          were about to throw him out when Dog told them to look in his ear.
          They found the smoldering punk and used it to rekindle their fires. "
        • holderlin66
          In attempting to imagine into the human system how Steiner connected the sense of Smell to the twelvefold sense system connected to Scorpio, we need to imagine
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            In attempting to imagine into the human system how Steiner connected
            the sense of Smell to the twelvefold sense system connected to
            Scorpio, we need to imagine vividly, the spine and rib cage, around
            the heart, and the spine going from 33 notches down to the tail bone
            and up through the brain, and into the Nose.

            Naturally to say Scorpio means this and take this truly into your
            most profound thinking idea; Scorpio is the fallen sense system that
            smells racial bigotry and untransformed sentient soul dog fights such
            as President Bush, "Bring em ON". This makes gambling and betting on
            vicious dogfights, Rabies and Avarice, Cock Fights and a whole host
            of Sentient poison in the soul to remain fallen and debased.

            Intuition about people arise out of the fallen Scorpio sense; The
            Eagle Sense; and the Dove Sense. These are the three stages of the
            cross, the Zodiacal Cross that gives the ancient heart as a fourfold,
            cross in the human feeling realm. This is the new brain of the
            Angelically developing human Beings and is the true core of what the
            Romantics and Transcendentalists were connecting to in the stream of
            history.

            Scorpio, Eagle, and finally Dove Initation all has to do with how we
            become intimate to the highest intutions of the Gods and transform
            the fallen Ethers of Scorpio to the Eagle and finally the dove, using
            the mighty sense system of the human being. Intuition and Warmth and
            the ability to train an elemental being in yourself that is able to
            accurately track the trail of divine beings and find the Ego
            Incarnating core, as a parts per billion sensing capacity, that
            reveals, This was the same individual in a former incarnation, is the
            ability to tune and track field research all the way past the Eagle.

            This has a great deal to do with the development of Sentient Soul,
            Intellectual Soul and Consciousness Soul faculties. That is why,
            there is no mistake when we measure the Sentient Soul basis of an
            unconscious President that tends to the fallen Scorpio impression.
            America is based on the Native American Eagle, but because of the
            current Ahrimanic battle for Time Spirit, World Movement... America
            is operating on half of its speed or 3/4 of its speed, on Fallen
            Scorpio Sentient Nationalism, that smells different political
            opinions and like Karl Rove, stings, stings to death anything that
            comes near the greed and avarice of fighting for the election of Mr.
            Bush. Would they kill Dr. Kelly, yes. Would they expose operatives in
            the world to be killed yes. This is subterfuge and Scorpianic
            American use of Fallen Intelligence.

            But to continue: Another legend of the Scorpio scent of system.

            The Dogs Hold an Election
            [Sioux]
            We don't think much of white man's elections. Whoever wins, we
            Indians always lose. Well, we have a little story about elections.
            Once a long time ago, the dogs were trying to elect a president. So
            one of them got up in the bid dog convention and said: "I nominate
            the bulldog for president. He's strong. He can fight."

            "But he can't run," said another dog. "What good is a fighter who
            can't run?

            But the other dogs cried: "Naw, he can run all right, but he can't
            fight. When he catches up with somebody, what happens then? He gets
            the hell beaten out of him, that's what! So all he good for is
            running away."

            Then an ugly little mutt jumped up and said: "I nominate that dog for
            president who smells good underneath his tail."

            And immeditatley an equally ugly mutt jumped up and said: "I second
            the motion."

            At once all the dogs started sniffing underneath each other's tails.
            A big chorus went up:

            "Phew, he doesn't smell good under his tail."

            "No, neither does this one."

            "He's no presidential timber!"

            "No, he no good, either."

            "This one sure isn't the people's choice."

            "Wow, this ain't my candidate!"

            When you go for a walk, just watch the dogs. They're still sniffing
            underneath each other's tails. They're looking for a good leader, and
            they still haven't found him
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