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  • starbirdgarden
    A concern about the filming (laying a film over) Lord of the Rings is that the I- Mage (imagining) power of millions can be captured and fixed in the public
    Message 1 of 18 , May 6 9:56 AM
      A concern about the filming (laying a film over) Lord of the Rings is that the I-
      Mage (imagining) power of millions can be captured and fixed in the 'public
      mind' so that everyone holds the same pictures in their consciousness. Also
      there is the skimming over of some deeper thoughts and characters, the
      Lambas, elven bread contains the redeemed etheric forces won for mankind
      by Christ, the rightful Lord of the Rings. Bio Dynamic bread?
      Where is Tom Bombadil, the only one who can toss the Ring in the air
      unaffected, because he is not really human. The hobbits soon fall into the
      Dreamland of nature, the over luxuriant, sleepy forces of growth. 'Frodo's
      head swam" but he bears the Ring, with it's death forces and he does not
      quite fall asleep as do Pippin and Merry.
      And who is Tom Bombadil? "He is" says Goldberry, "He is the Master" He
      is worker with and master of the elemental beings of the forest, river, and
      landscape, singing order into his realm as Druids and later Monks chanted
      into the ethers, keeping the land healthy and fruitful. transforming what
      streamed up from the layers of the earth. His speech, rhyming and riddling, is
      like the speech of elemental beings who can only be un derstood in the realm
      of fairy tale through paradox which is why they often seem to tricksters or
      jokers. Steiner tells us that the speech of the Angels is Poetry.
      He makes the point that in the physical world the quickest way from A to B
      is a straight line, while this may be the longest way in the Spiritual world.
      Elementals do not walk straight lines, any more than does a drunk (who has
      temporarily lost ego-consciousness)they whirl and dance like dervishes and
      the accuracy of Tolkein's elves with a bow and arrow points to a higher form of
      consciousness, with a kind of directed thought.
      The etheric forces spiral into the earth, and the trees and plants spiral out.
      In the etheric everything dances , sings, resounds moving in step measure as
      the ethers mingle, work upon one another, transforming, shaping, mediated
      by birdsong which reaches the starry world and returns bearing the imprint,
      form and even perfume of Star Beings who seek our conscious co-operation.
      Rudolf Steiner reminds us that we must 'learn the language of the birds'
      and while in alchemical terms this referred to a soft 'tweeting' sound that came
      at a certain point in an alchemical process, the birds are intimately connected
      with the chemical or tone ether, and with the stars. So that we now must learn
      to hear and discern the language of the stars in creation all around us. 'The
      stars of Heaven fell unto the Earth' in very deed.
      Anthroposophy is a great training for living in paradox, seeing from many
      angles, 'thinking seven impossible things before breakfast' using exercises
      like envisioning a glass of water being poured out and growing fuller as it
      does so. The etheric world is paradoxical. In Cycles like 'Spiritual Beings in
      the Heavenly Bodies' or 'Man as Symphony" as well as many others, Steiner
      leads us into this wonderland , showing us how to begin to understand these
      great, open secrets. The hollow tree of the fairy tale , when entered, is a vast
      hall, an etheric creative space. (Think of the Time Lord Dr Who in his
      telephone box! ) the sparkle on a dew drop, the hollow centre of a flower,
      these are portals. Here we find the Magic Cauldron or Porridge Pot which
      endlessly churns out nourishment, so that we are overwhelmed if we do not
      bring forces of our own to bear. This is the challenge, to rise to the use of the
      Redeemed Ethers.
      If we live deeply into Steiner's conceptions, for instance that the 'sun is not
      really there' not a burning ball of gas but anemptier than empty suctional
      space, a vortex holding all in balance, then it is impossible to see the world as
      only a physical creation. Our view is turned inside out, and inside can be
      larger than outside!
      Pfeiffer once said that Rudolf Steiner's early death was due to to the
      ceaseless attacks upon him by certain occult Brotherhoods who were
      opposed to his heart lectures, which with the etherisation of the blood give the
      lie to the heart as a pump, with tremendous consequences for pseudo-
      science which wishes to see man as a machine.
      The way forward for the elementals bewitched in matter, spellbound in
      nature and now sub-nature, is through the Human Being. And if that Portal to
      the future is closed to them, then as Steiner warned, 'the elemental beings will
      host under Ahriman'. They will be forced into the sub-ethers, which is how
      Tolkein's elves are tortured, becoming Orcs. "The Earth groaneth and
      travaileth" The elementals long for us to awaken. (See Man as Symphony)
      He is the Anthroposophist Manfred Kyber in 'The Three Candles of Little
      Veronica'
      "Do we come to earth to grow stupid?" asked Veronica. "That seems sort of
      funny to me, you know."
      "That isn't it." said the Elf. "You only become stupid because it gets dark,
      and then you should look for the light so that you may become wise again.
      Because when you have found the light in the darkness, then you have truly
      become a good deal wiser. To seek the light is truly the task of human
      beings, imposed on them by God. They must seek it out and find it, not only
      for themselves, but for the animals, the plants and the stones, for the elves
      and the dwarfs, for every being that lives with them. That is rather a difficult
      story, though, and I cannot explain it to you exactly."
      "It sounds very difficult to me," said Veronica. "Couldn't God arrange it a
      little more conveniently? It must be easy enough for Him. I'll ask Him about it,
      when I meet Him."
      "Oh, Little V eronica" said the Elf with a sigh. "If you seek God you will have
      to travel many difficult roads, and when you find Him you will no longer ask
      Him what you asked today. To seek God and to find God - that is more than a
      child's question. If it were not so, maybe all of us would have found
      deliverance."
      "Are you bewitched, then?" asked Veronica. "That sounds like Snow White
      in the fairy tale."
      "In the fairy tale everything is as real as it is on Earth." said the Elf. "Oh if
      only humans would understand this!"
      "Snow White is asleep in the glass coffin" said Veronica softly, and a
      solemn, far away look came into her eyes.
      The Elf took Veronica by the hand. "We are all asleep in the glass coffin."
      she said. "Remember this; remember it always when you grow up, Little
      Veronica. Help us in the task of deliverance." end of quote.
      The Christed etheric forces can only be properly used co-operatively in
      brotherhood, as the etheric world is inheren tly moral, social, shared, Strader
      needed a group of friends, Keely, the fore-runner, was misunderstood and
      rubbished as he did not really understand himself what was happening. He
      used musical instruments to work the sound ether, and the beautiful forms of
      his machines make his work distinct from some other 'free energy' techn
      icians. He was not in a position to work from the necessary shared moral
      base with others.
      Moral technology is not simply technology ethically applied. It is an entirely
      new technology arising from human etheric energies in resonance with
      certain constellations. The New Song of Revelations that creates Jupiter is
      sung by free individuals in harmony 'with single purpose' This has the sound,
      or Ring of Truth about it.
      Ahriman seeks to divert human beings from their true Ego consciousness,
      from being 'each their own species ' back into group souls, to Gog and
      Magog, into herded animal humanity so that he can be Ring Master in his
      own Circus Ring, making us jump through ring- hoops of his devising,
      keeping us running in ring-circles. His old technology rings the earth with
      orbiting sattelites playing Sauron's Eye Spy. He wants us to think and
      imagine in mass.
      Lucifer works in the astral body, Arhiman in the etherric, the Asuras have
      been lamed and stupefied by Christ, but still will attack the Ego from their
      base in the physical and are already incarnate in the 'lurid glare' of city life, as
      described by Steiner. As we are largely unconscious of the work of the
      Angels in the Astral body the Angels themselves can fall to new untold
      destructive depths. They too, can be forced down.
      Rudolf Steiner stressed the importance of trying to visualise one's own
      Angel. When objection was made that wee would be sure to get it wrong, he
      replied that the An gel would correct the picture, but could do nothing unless
      the attempt was made.
      Ahriman-Satan lurks in the cosmos 'in an eerie way' waiting to lay hold of
      the comets. "Satan lies in wait for every comet that turns up. He wants to
      catch hold of it and use the direction of it's momentum to disrupt the orbits of
      the planets and also of the earth. This really is going on in the universe; the
      satanic forces are lying in wait with the intention of changing the whole
      planetary system. If they were to succeed, the planetary system in whose
      orbits human beings are supposed to live would be taken away from those
      divine, spiritual powers and sent off to quite other cosmic evolutionary
      directions." end of quote from the cycle 'The Book of Revelation and the Work
      of the Priest'
      Ahriman cannot create, he can only imitate. He uses the fallen chemical
      ether, where sound is condensed into magnetism, in combination with fallen
      light ether, electricity and re-chords. He cannot sing the New Song.
      Whatever the Usurping Lord of the Rings plans for us, only the ressurected
      forces can help us. In the Lord of the Rings the heros find themselves in
      physically impossible situations, from which there is no escape. Them comes
      the Eagle, St John, with upbearing forces.
      Largely spectral we have been riders of the Pale Horse. Gandalf the
      White, the Ressurected, is the White Rider. These are great Imaginations, but
      we must also be awake to the Jesuit influence on Tolkein, as imaged in the
      Two Towers. There follows The Coming of the King. Who might that be? The
      Jesuit's King Jesus? Is there a synchronicity in the public consciousness or
      unconsciousness between the Two towers and the Twin Towers and the
      Coming of the King with a physically incarnated so called World Saviour?
    • Bradford Riley
      From: starbirdgarden ... My jaw has dropped. My heart is still struggling. Gasp! Finally a soul who has thought through and
      Message 2 of 18 , May 6 7:43 PM
        From: "starbirdgarden" <starbirdsong@...>
        >Subject: [anthroposophy] Thoughts on Various Rings
        >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:56:08 -0000

        My jaw has dropped. My heart is still struggling. Gasp! Finally a soul who
        has thought through and weighed some of the cultural insights littered
        around our feet. It has astonished me until now, that so much of Spiritual
        Science was left on the roadside so that so many could wander around the
        halls of the timeless and ask again and again if they can think let alone
        see what there own time is saying to them.
        Except for this enormous download, from who? I have no idea. All that I know
        is that I call him friend, brother, fellow or sister... Each specific
        observation was a gallon of gold. A gallon of gold for those who have
        wandered into our current time period and have absorbed enough from the
        School of Spiritual Science to illuminate so much that is offered and
        offered by fellow souls who have heard the mighty music of the spiritual
        world before they incarnated. Those who devoted their hearts to presenting a
        work for our time that contains substance. Towers and the Eye of deception.

        So rich, so full, and to so many it would appear strange and distant from
        them. Sad, Sad that they have lived in their own time without seeing.
        Silmarillion is an attempt to flesh out something like an "Occult Science an
        Outline" The Gardner after the Resurrection and Tom B or rather, for those
        who understand, the Living floating John Being who has long since passed
        death's door. He who works within Earth with humor and the Initiation
        strength of the Christ Being is like unto Tom the guradian of the threshold.

        Poetic riddles, and Angelic poetic actual living destiny events that are so
        richly woven with wonder, and change our lives so deeply.. these are the
        poetic scripts of the Angels. The Angels weave and live within the rhythms
        of biography and how they work together with the stars. Poetry like
        Shakespeare becomes the foundation for liberating a higher faculty of
        perception, of Karma, destiny and Freedom. All poetic realities are formed
        for the Virgin Poem of an Individual freighted hopes of a human destiny
        together with their karma.

        Thank You, whoever you are... and one must only ask.. what in heavens name
        is the blind spot that so many fail to grasp as they look at the
        contributions to our culture..why are they unable to bring inner pictures
        together.. as you have so viviidly and masterfully done?

        Yes, Yes there is an enormous amount that was sacrificed from the books,
        sacrifiiced and left unexplored even if felt by so many. Arrows of thought,
        clarity, uncluttered Etheric realities of the Elves, with far less
        astrality... but much, much that could be raised to picture fluidity and
        merged with some of the substance of spiritual science brings tremendous
        life to science research as well as current political machinations, and
        sheds a mild Luciferic Light, a lending light to the higher I.

        The appeal to Jesuit Initiates is very veiled, glad you brought it up,
        however I would not encourage the shredder of the shrunken intellect to
        focus again and again on side issues to the whole, but the unlocated
        history of the model of Initiation and Courage operating in the Cosmos of
        Man and the elemental community can touch everyone without designating
        exactly which religion we should bow to. To the esoteric, John arises and
        Initiation Science arises...to Celtic or Hermetic wisdom other nature worlds
        arise. The inner laws of the narrative, the artistic choices He made, allow
        great truths to shine through and verify great truths and even flesh out
        some of the truths hinted at by the vast work of Spiritual Science. But of
        course more than a passing interest in your culture and more than a gap
        between your Intellect and your Imagination has to become fired with the
        heroic understanding of the Mission of Mankind. That noble mission, laced
        with magic and the elemental worlds can be tasted out of Spiritual Science
        and felt in works like J.R.'s.

        But this rich world of our time should a rich turf to weave Imagination
        against Intellect and weave Intellect into Imagination...This is what
        astonished me when Noam Chomsky leaped to Jonathan Swift and Guillvers
        Travels while looking at America's new pre-emptive strike with WMD on any
        target it sees fit. Intellect and Imagination are very much missing in many
        Anthros and there should not be such a wide strange gap. Chomsky may have
        latched onto a Luciferic Picture but such a picture is a counter image to
        the Ahrimanic Deception of current Political reality. But understanding the
        complexity of a Noam Chomsky or other intellectual and also watch how the
        Imagination arises out of the Intellect should give us enormous clues.

        Just as the Inklings, C.S.Lewis, Barfield and others, like Charles Williams
        and the new Harry Potter inspiration should give us pause to reflect on such
        communities of thought and their offspring and encouraging the current
        cultural pictures to shed light and enrich the dried up forces of Spiritual
        Science. But beyond this, please, please tell me that many, many others were
        thrilled with what your wrote as I am. I certainly hope there is some
        trickle of understanding over your terrific review, if not we are a sorry,
        sorry bunch of creatures.. Aside from Joel and Evert of course.

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      • lightsearcher1
        ... o has thought through and weighed some of the cultural insights littered around our feet.It has astonished me until now, that so much of
        Message 3 of 18 , May 7 9:52 AM
          --- In <ecstacy>, "Bradford Riley" <holderlin66@h...> wrote:

          > My jaw has dropped. My heart is still struggling. Gasp! Finally a soul wh=
          o
          > has thought through and weighed some of the cultural insights littered
          > around our feet.

          > It has astonished me until now, that so much of Spiritual
          > Science was left on the roadside so that so many could wander around the =

          > halls of the timeless and ask again and again if they can think let alone=

          > see what there own time is saying to them.

          WHAT AN EVENT WHEN A FULLY CREDENTIALED INITIATE
          TROLLS SO BROADLY AND RIGOROUSLY AND PATIENTLY
          TO FIND SOMEONE WITH ALMOST THE SAME POTENTIAL
          STATUS – AND FINDS THEM !
        • holderlin66
          ... Well Lightsearcher again, your heart is a wonderful organ for the perception of living substance... I suppose Tom Bombardil is the Bard of humor that
          Message 4 of 18 , May 8 7:36 AM
            >
            > WHAT AN EVENT WHEN A FULLY CREDENTIALED INITIATE
            > TROLLS SO BROADLY AND RIGOROUSLY AND PATIENTLY
            > TO FIND SOMEONE WITH ALMOST THE SAME POTENTIAL
            > STATUS – AND FINDS THEM !

            Well Lightsearcher again, your heart is a wonderful organ for the
            perception of living substance... I suppose Tom Bombardil is the Bard
            of humor that creeps into the crevices of insight... To this the
            Great and wonderful Guardian of the Threshold, Deep John attempts to
            pulls us along.

            In other words, thanks Light Searcher and also Thanks Elaine, as you
            know I am always interested in our exchanges. Joel was rather hot and
            his sense of humor has grown with his encounters. HIs future movie
            insight into the potential pulling of Harrison Ford out of retirement
            has me very interested. Both Starman and I have done a great deal of
            Research on Mt. Shasta...So my call to all those friends out there,
            is that yes, there are works, and shared wonders we could complete
            together, alternate chapters, to leave a legacy for future travellers
            to say that we too have forged ahead.. All who wander are not lost!
            At the road where many paths meet... here we are and we do have some
            mighty and important issues to send down the stream of time, as our
            own frail boats cast upon the mighty Nile of the World. My question
            is always that we pool,organize or share, as we do and even bring to
            birth works born only out of our sense of each other.

            Navigation in the Information age is also an interesting idea of
            expanding the local beauty of the Inklings into the wider vista of
            the Internet of the Fallen Intelligence of the Michael Community.
            This is something we could do... Angels live in this our own Michael
            era moment. See how we shine!
          • holderlin66
            ... wrote: Ahriman cannot create, he can only imitate. He uses the fallen chemical ... with fallen ... Song. Bradford comments; There are
            Message 5 of 18 , Jul 1, 2003
              --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "starbirdgarden"
              <starbirdsong@b...> wrote:

              "Ahriman cannot create, he can only imitate. He uses the fallen
              chemical
              > ether, where sound is condensed into magnetism, in combination
              with fallen
              > light ether, electricity and re-chords. He cannot sing the New
              Song."

              Bradford comments;

              There are many heroic efforts being fought on all fronts to confront
              and dispel AHRIMANIC SYMPTOMOLOGY. Here is a connection to a real
              fighter, Steve Talbott, who has planted himself as a fighter against
              the onslaught of Ahrimanic symptomology. What we need to hold dear,
              is that there are conscious friends of the School of Michael who
              warriorize and transmute the stream of deception that floods in the
              vast thinking caverns of human brains. We need to understand that the
              territory of the human brain is a vast region, not just little lumps
              ontop of peoples heads. Humans surf on waves of Ahrimanic
              Intelligence and pollute the Human world with unfolding Ahrimanic
              deceptions. We need our heros and we need to know where we can locate
              them and hold them dear in their direct confrontation with Ahrimanic
              Symptomology. We also need to know how to see it with Goethean
              clarity.

              http://www.praxagora.com/stevet/netfuture/2003/Jun2403_146.html

              FLESH AND MACHINES: THE MERE ASSERTIONS OF RODNEY BROOKS

              Steve Talbott
              (stevet@...)

              In Flesh and Machines: How Robots Will Change Us (Random House, 2002),
              Rodney Brooks informs us that "we are nothing more than a highly
              ordered
              collection of biomolecules":

              Molecular biology has made fantastic strides over the last fifty
              years,
              and its goal is to explain all the peculiarities and details of
              life in
              terms of molecular interactions. A central tenet of molecular
              biology
              is that that is all there is.

              Apparently fearing that we will be insufficiently gripped by his
              message,
              Brooks (who is director of the Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at
              MIT)
              goes on to say in the space of three pages:

              The body, this mass of biomolecules, is a machine that acts
              according
              to a set of specifiable rules....

              The body is a machine....

              We are machines, as are our spouses, our children, and our dogs....

              We are nothing more than the sort of machine we saw in chapter 3,
              where
              I set out simple sets of rules that can be combined to provide the
              complex behavior of a walking robot .... we are much like the robot
              Genghis, although somewhat more complex in quantity, but not in
              quality....

              I believe myself and my children all to be mere machines....

              We, all of us, overanthropomorphize humans, who are after all mere
              machines (pp. 173-5).

              Noting that some people may bristle at the word "machine" (not to
              mention
              the tedious repetition), Brooks acknowledges that he uses the word "to
              perhaps brutalize the reader a little". He feels the need to shake us
              free of any conviction that "we are special" -- meaning, in case you
              missed it, that we should accept our status as "mere machines".

              Searching for the Bottom
              ------------------------
              As a reviewer facing an attempt at brutalization, perhaps I will be
              forgiven a touch of bluntness. When, using the characteristic
              language of
              the insecure reductionist ("we are nothing more than"), Brooks refers
              to
              molecular interactions and says emphatically, "that is all there is",
              he
              is engaged in a startlingly transparent argument from ignorance.

              "That is all there is". What is all there is? Brooks makes the
              statement
              in order to intimidate, but is unwilling or unable to tell us
              anything at
              all about the brute, underlying, mechanistic reality he is pretending
              to
              beat us with. If there is one thing no respectable physicist since
              the
              mid-twentieth century would claim to do, it is to describe some sort
              of
              ultimate physical machine, let alone a well-understood physical
              machine.
              The entire movement of physics has been away from concrete machine
              models -- and, indeed, away from models altogether. Theories at the
              lowest level no longer even describe particular things or events that
              might be modeled. So when, with an air of settling matters for good,
              Brooks says "that is all there is", what hard reality is he shoving in
              front of our faces?

              His general idea seems to be that there is some "mere" machine-stuff
              down at a lower level of explanation, and everything above it is
              "nothing more than" the compounded articulations of this mechanistic
              reality. Explanation proceeds from below upward. Our nature is fixed
              by the foundation on which it rests. "We are machines".

              But if explanation proceeds from below, then you need to start with
              whatever is at the bottom. Your primary explanatory apparatus, in
              other
              words, is quantum weirdness. And the one place in science where you
              absolutely cannot find a machine, is amid the scarcely utterable
              perplexities of the quantum realm. Nevertheless, there is where
              Brooks
              would apparently nail down our determining and limiting nature -- the
              reality we are "nothing more than". Does he care to tell us a little
              about this reality?

              Certainly not in Flesh and Machines. Moreover, even if he could
              extract
              something of our essential nature from the sphere of quantum effects,
              and
              even if he could demonstrate the machine-like character of this
              nature,
              there would remain the difficulty facing all bottom-up expositors of
              the
              human being: where is the bottom, since not one iota of evidence
              within
              physics suggests we have reached it, and no one even seems to know
              what it
              might mean for there to be a bottom or what would be its
              distinguishing
              features.

              Physicist Steven Weinberg informs us that some of the (unknown)
              structures
              pointed to by currently accepted theory are smaller than the atomic
              nucleus by a factor of a million billion. In other words, it is at
              least
              as far from the atomic nucleus to these unknown structures as it is
              from
              the scale of ordinary life to the atomic nucleus. If the idea of
              explanatory levels makes any sense at all (it doesn't), and if our
              nature
              is determined by whatever constitutes the bottom, then so, too, the
              nature
              of atoms and molecules must be determined by the same inaccessible
              bottom.

              But still, in his happy ignorance about whatever is "down there",
              Brooks
              can find satisfaction in the effort to whip us into submission with a
              phantom: "That is all there is". One wonders what he pictures in
              his own
              mind as he says "that".

              Starbirgarden adds to the picture

              > This is the challenge, to rise to the use of the
              > Redeemed Ethers.
              > If we live deeply into Steiner's conceptions, for instance
              that the 'sun is not
              > really there' not a burning ball of gas but anemptier than empty
              suctional
              > space, a vortex holding all in balance, then it is impossible to
              see the world as
              > only a physical creation. Our view is turned inside out, and inside
              can be
              > larger than outside!
              > Pfeiffer once said that Rudolf Steiner's early death was due
              to to the
              > ceaseless attacks upon him by certain occult Brotherhoods who were
              > opposed to his heart lectures, which with the etherisation of the
              blood give the
              > lie to the heart as a pump, with tremendous consequences for pseudo-
              > science which wishes to see man as a machine.
              > The way forward for the elementals bewitched in matter,
              spellbound in
              > nature and now sub-nature, is through the Human Being. And if that
              Portal to
              > the future is closed to them, then as Steiner warned, 'the
              elemental beings will
              > host under Ahriman'. They will be forced into the sub-ethers,
              which is how
              > Tolkein's elves are tortured, becoming Orcs.

              > The Christed etheric forces can only be properly used co-
              operatively in
              > brotherhood, as the etheric world is inheren tly moral, social,
              shared, Strader
              > needed a group of friends, Keely, the fore-runner, was
              misunderstood and
              > rubbished as he did not really understand himself what was
              happening. He
              > used musical instruments to work the sound ether, and the beautiful
              forms of
              > his machines make his work distinct from some other 'free energy'
              techn
              > icians. He was not in a position to work from the necessary shared
              moral
              > base with others.
              > Moral technology is not simply technology ethically applied.
              It is an entirely
              > new technology arising from human etheric energies in resonance
              with
              > certain constellations. The New Song of Revelations that creates
              Jupiter is
              > sung by free individuals in harmony 'with single purpose' This has
              the sound,
              > or Ring of Truth about it.
              > Ahriman seeks to divert human beings from their true Ego
              consciousness,
              > from being 'each their own species ' back into group souls, to Gog
              and
              > Magog, into herded animal humanity so that he can be Ring Master in
              his
              > own Circus Ring, making us jump through ring- hoops of his
              devising,
              > keeping us running in ring-circles. His old technology rings the
              earth with
              > orbiting sattelites playing Sauron's Eye Spy. He wants us to think
              and
              > imagine in mass.
              > Ahriman-Satan lurks in the cosmos 'in an eerie way' waiting to
              lay hold of
              > the comets. "Satan lies in wait for every comet that turns up. He
              wants to
              > catch hold of it and use the direction of it's momentum to disrupt
              the orbits of
              > the planets and also of the earth. This really is going on in the
              universe; the
              > satanic forces are lying in wait with the intention of changing
              the whole
              > planetary system. If they were to succeed, the planetary system in
              whose
              > orbits human beings are supposed to live would be taken away from
              those
              > divine, spiritual powers and sent off to quite other cosmic
              evolutionary
              > directions." end of quote from the cycle 'The Book of Revelation
              and the Work
              > of the Priest'
              > Ahriman cannot create, he can only imitate. He uses the fallen
              chemical
              > ether, where sound is condensed into magnetism, in combination
              with fallen
              > light ether, electricity and re-chords. He cannot sing the New
              Song.
              > Whatever the Usurping Lord of the Rings plans for us, only the
              ressurected
              > forces can help us.

              Talbott continues:

              Order and Form
              --------------

              "Brooks seems particularly inclined to find evidence of our machine
              nature
              at the level of biomolecules. Since he never tells us why these
              molecules should be regarded as machinery, there isn't much to quarrel
              with. But a couple of extremely brief comments may prove useful.

              Two of the most longstanding and fundamental questions about living
              things
              are, first, How does the organism sustain its order and resist decay?
              That is, how is matter "caught up" in the organism's living processes
              in a
              way that suddenly and dramatically ceases when the organism dies and
              the
              inevitable processes of putrefaction and decay take over? Or again:
              what
              is the difference between the state of the same physical body before
              and
              after death? And second, How is the distinctive form of every
              organism
              brought into being and maintained?

              Both these questions have tended to fade from view as biology has
              transformed itself from a discipline about organisms to a discipline
              about
              molecules. Researchers seem to believe (if they think about the
              matter at
              all) that if they can just get a handle on the molecular "machinery"
              of
              the cell and organism, the larger questions will somehow answer
              themselves.

              What has actually been happening provides an ironic counterpoint to
              this
              expectation. It is less that the lower "mechanisms" are answering the
              larger questions than that the larger questions are simply reasserting
              themselves at the lower level. In particular, the problem of order
              and
              resistance to decay stares microbiologists in the face as soon as they
              cease averting their eyes. As Lenny Moss (who is both a cell
              biologist
              and philosopher) puts it, when we look at the molecular dynamics
              within
              the cytoplasm of the cell, what we see suggests that "biological
              resistance to thermodynamically driven entropic heat decay obtains
              all the
              way down to the most basic fabric of living matter" (What Genes Can't
              Do, MIT Press, 2003, p. 91). Moss is one of many researchers looking
              at the complex chemical dynamics of the cell as a whole, and noting
              that
              there is no one-way chain of cause and effect determining the cell's
              order. This order (which is passed from one generation to the next)
              is
              irreducibly manifested in the cell as a whole, with each part
              (including
              the DNA) being effect as well as cause."
            • holderlin66
              ... The body is a machine.... We are machines, as are our spouses, our children, and our dogs.... We are nothing more than the sort of machine we saw in
              Message 6 of 18 , Jul 1, 2003
                >
                > http://www.praxagora.com/stevet/netfuture/2003/Jun2403_146.html

                The body is a machine....

                "We are machines, as are our spouses, our children, and our dogs....

                We are nothing more than the sort of machine we saw in chapter 3,
                where
                I set out simple sets of rules that can be combined to provide the
                complex behavior of a walking robot .... we are much like the robot
                Genghis, although somewhat more complex in quantity, but not in
                quality...."

                Bradford comments;

                It is the little things we need to observe, when someone mentions a
                nice little pet machine called Genghis we might pause in our thought
                tracks and look again. Did I really read that? Now comes a mighty
                riddle of Ahrimanic Symptomology working directly with Lucifer
                Symptomology. Genghis Khan, whose interesting force, left over from
                the Atlantean oracles, can be seen in the opening sequence of the
                film, "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin.

                But more importantly is locating our visual cultural addiction to
                Luciferic film imagery - not as a study of cultural symptomology, but
                rather as an effort to bloat our untransformed imaginations into
                Luciferic vehicles. This allows Ahriman to sweep into the moral,
                human, Goethean Rights Sphere and undermine the soul with curious
                attacks that enter through Science and Politics and our minds go limp
                in the process of grasping it. That is one of the reasons why a
                Goethean World conception is an antidote to the Three Temptations
                that Christ experienced in the Desert. We are humans, surrounded by
                the Logos of Nature and Spirit - we are not machines.

                Imperialism as in Roman Imperialism and American superpower
                Imperialism has come under the dangerous battle between Hollywood's
                images and Luciferic contents and Washingtons Ahrimanic Political
                agendas. To understand the complex history of this symptomology we
                can see that Michael Jackson's experiences and Heavens Gate suicides
                are West Coast products of the Luciferic symptomology.

                In America we have Los Vegas as the collection of all decadent
                mystery impulses, such as the Pyramid, Sphinx and Rome, all serving
                the addictive impulses of gambling and resurrecting in the desert the
                fallen Luciferic Images of culture. Wall Street has an Ahrimanic
                influence that spreads through economy and the world and forms the
                basis of either corrupt use of corporate group rulership or the
                unfolding of moral forces that exist in Corporations with moral
                leadership.

                Hopefully we can see some of the sweeping insights that STeiner was
                trying to present in his INNER ASPECTS OF EVOLUTION.

                http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/GA/GA0171/19160917p01.html

                "It was actually the descendants of the old Atlantean teachers who
                were now working from a place in Asia. A priest there had been
                educated to behold — to have a belated vision, as it were, of what
                the Atlanteans called the "Great Spirit," and to receive his
                commands. These the priest communicated to a young man of remarkable
                energy and strength who, by virtue of this authority, received the
                name "The Great Ruler of the Earth" from his community. This was
                Genghis Khan. The Great Spirit, through his follower and through that
                priest, gave to Genghis Khan the command to summon all the powers of
                Asia to spread the influence that would lead the fifth post-Atlantean
                age back into a luciferic form. These forces — and they were far more
                powerful than the forces established in Greek culture — were all
                employed to this end. Free imaginations were to be changed into old,
                visionary imaginations. Every effort was to be made to lull the soul
                of man to sleep in a dim and dreamy experience of imaginations
                instead of a free experience filled through and through with clear
                understanding.

                "With the help of the special forces that had been preserved from
                Atlantis, it was the intended purpose to carry an influence into the
                West that would make its culture visionary. Then it would have become
                possible to separate the souls of men from the earth and to form a
                new continent, a new planetary body with them. All the unrest and
                disturbance that came into the evolution of modern man through the
                Mongolian invasions, everything connected with them that has gone on
                working into the fifth post-Atlantean epoch — all this unrest, which
                was prepared long ago, is nothing more than the great attempt that is
                being made from Asia to bring about a visionary European culture. It
                would cut it off from the conditions of its further evolution and
                lead it altogether away from the earth, just as the East has
                experienced again and again this feeling of being filled with vision
                and of wanting to be estranged from the earth.

                "Something was needed to counterbalance this tendency. An opposite
                trend had to be created as a counterforce that moves in the direction
                of the normal evolution of mankind. The influence of Genghis Khan's
                priest was intended to bring about a kind of buoyancy and lightness
                in the human race that would draw man away from the earth. Over
                against this, a corresponding heaviness had to come to man from the
                weight of the earth; this was provided through the discovery of the
                western world. America, with all that it holds, was discovered and
                thereby earth heaviness, the desire to remain on earth, was given to
                man. The discovery of America and everything connected with it, and
                the way man carried his life into the many new places of the earth,
                all this, when seen in wider connections, shows itself as a
                counterbalancing force to the activity of Genghis Khan. America had
                to be discovered so that man might be brought to grow closer to the
                earth, to grow more and more materialistic. Man needed weight and
                heaviness to counterbalance the spiritualization that was the aim of
                the descendants of the "Great Spirit."

                "Along with this normal process whereby the scene of action of man's
                life was extended to America, we find the other forces, the ahrimanic
                powers of the "Great Spirit," intervening again. An influence came
                from America to Europe, and another came to permeate America from
                Asia. Thus, normal forces developed through the discovery of America
                and also powerful ahrimanic onslaughts. They worked less strongly at
                first, but will continue to work in our time and on into the future.
                We must learn to recognize these ahrimanic forces.

                "What Rome had achieved in the Church and in the ecclesiastical state
                was grasped by the ahrimanic influence. While it is comparatively
                easy to see how the luciferic influence worked on Genghis Khan — we
                have exact knowledge of the fact that a priest was initiated by the
                follower of the "Great Spirit" — it is much more difficult to say how
                the ahrimanic spirit worked. This is because the ahrimanic influence
                is dispersed and scattered. But you need only study how Spain,
                strictly Roman Catholic as it was, was fascinated by all the
                treasures of gold that were discovered in America. What a hold it had
                upon her! You can observe how strong the specter-like working of the
                old Romanism still was in such a ruler as Ferdinand of Castile or
                Charles V, the ruler of the kingdom over which the "sun never set."
                Study the reaction of Europe to the gradual discovery and opening up
                of America and you will see what temptations came from that
                direction. Taken all in all, it is a history of temptation woven in
                with a history that runs a normal course. "

                (snipped)

                "This condition did not come about because, mingled with the "self-
                deifying madness" of Greek poetry, to quote Plato, was the genius and
                greatness of Greek philosophy and wisdom. The Greek philosophers —
                Heraclitus, Thales, Anaximenes, Anaximander, Parmenides, Socrates,
                Plato and Aristotle — saved Greek civilization from being completely
                spiritualized in a life of fantasy. They kept the Greeks on earth,
                providing the strongest forces that kept Greece within earthly
                evolution. In considering the course of history, we must always take
                into account the forces that lie behind physical reality and are the
                true causes of all that happens. It was, then, in this way that
                Greece was preserved for earthly evolution.

                "Now, the luciferic beings would have been unable to achieve anything
                at all without the help of the ahrimanic beings. In all their
                intentions and hope they reckoned on their support. Indeed, it must
                always be that two forces strive together in this kind of working.
                Just as the luciferic beings were disappointed in Greece, so were the
                ahrimanic beings disappointed in Rome and the way it developed. The
                luciferic beings wanted to lead Grecian souls away from the earth-
                planet and the ahrimanic beings wanted to contribute their efforts to
                the end that the Roman civilization would assume a particular form.
                The ahrimanic beings exerted their strongest efforts in Rome, just as
                the luciferic beings did in Greece. They calculated that a certain
                hardening would arise on earth brought about by an entirely blind
                obedience and subjection to Rome. What did the ahrimanic powers want
                to accomplish in Rome? They wanted to establish a Roman Empire that
                would extend over the whole of the then known world, embracing within
                it every human activity. It would be directed entirely from Rome with
                the strictest centralization and the utmost development of the rule
                of might. They sought to establish a widely flung state machinery
                that would include and make subject to it all religious and artistic
                life. Its goal would be to stamp out all individuality. Every people
                and human being would comprise merely some small part of this mighty
                state machine. "

                "Rome would have assumed a form that would have given Ahriman a
                splendid opportunity to achieve his aim since, through the spiritual
                decline of a Roman rule that had been transformed into a papacy, the
                mechanizing of culture could have been accomplished. So another
                external power had to be brought against Ahriman, who works with much
                more external means than Lucifer. Ahriman, as we have seen, diverted
                the forces of Christianity to his own service. Another power had to
                be brought against him."
              • danifyou@tv.videotron.ca
                Aaah the Genius of Language again.... To not be surpised to see the Greeks in the mix! Bradford you have this Word-sensor I tell you; while some others too
                Message 7 of 18 , Jul 1, 2003
                  Aaah the Genius of Language again....
                  To not be surpised to see the Greeks in the mix!
                  Bradford you have this Word-sensor I tell you; while some others too many(not here thank God) have the polar side(Censor).
                  Relief!
                  For this I thank you.

                  And the free Intuition of the 'I' in Meaning
                  and Reason-logical circulation(Thinking)
                  association-relational to the Percept,
                  --> against the ravenous ravage of rave(how cultural-actual is this word!), us is protects; away from the raving Luciferic Madness!

                  Find me agreeing with Plato, find me Triadic walking with you here dear Bradford.

                  And so let me go now tell you this:

                  From Asia once,
                  Strong the Mighty Djinn-hissing(Genocidous!) Klan
                  Came to crush the normal evolutionnary plans.
                  The thinking to retarded Elohims they said!
                  No Freedom Archai-Individual based to expect!


                  How a Luciferic group thinking leads to Ahrimanic-mechanical maniac soul maladies, compulsion, obsession and REPLICATION, world with us contemporary is not very difficult to see.

                  Yes Bradford, yes Starbirdgarden, we hold the Symptomatology!
                  We have the Beast lying under our foot,
                  we have Christ and Sophia in World New Song Sang!

                  We have here now a Powerful-palladium Thinking-force current Wonderful-warm-stirring in hand!

                  Towards Jupiter hence!!!

                  Danny

                  P.S.: Welcome once again Jan. I noticed that non-coincidental you bear the name of Jan, as in 'Jean', as in 'John'. Your warmly chemical imbued thick etheric body(fashion Goethe...) is a very rich Sea of Love to me. I'm glad you're here with us.

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: holderlin66<holderlin66@...>
                  >
                  > http://www.praxagora.com/stevet/netfuture/2003/Jun2403_146.html

                  The body is a machine....

                  "We are machines, as are our spouses, our children, and our dogs....

                  We are nothing more than the sort of machine we saw in chapter 3,
                  where
                  I set out simple sets of rules that can be combined to provide the
                  complex behavior of a walking robot .... we are much like the robot
                  Genghis, although somewhat more complex in quantity, but not in
                  quality...."

                  Bradford comments;

                  It is the little things we need to observe, when someone mentions a
                  nice little pet machine called Genghis we might pause in our thought
                  tracks and look again. Did I really read that? Now comes a mighty
                  riddle of Ahrimanic Symptomology working directly with Lucifer
                  Symptomology. Genghis Khan, whose interesting force, left over from
                  the Atlantean oracles, can be seen in the opening sequence of the
                  film, "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin.

                  But more importantly is locating our visual cultural addiction to
                  Luciferic film imagery - not as a study of cultural symptomology, but
                  rather as an effort to bloat our untransformed imaginations into
                  Luciferic vehicles. This allows Ahriman to sweep into the moral,
                  human, Goethean Rights Sphere and undermine the soul with curious
                  attacks that enter through Science and Politics and our minds go limp
                  in the process of grasping it. That is one of the reasons why a
                  Goethean World conception is an antidote to the Three Temptations
                  that Christ experienced in the Desert. We are humans, surrounded by
                  the Logos of Nature and Spirit - we are not machines.

                  Imperialism as in Roman Imperialism and American superpower
                  Imperialism has come under the dangerous battle between Hollywood's
                  images and Luciferic contents and Washingtons Ahrimanic Political
                  agendas. To understand the complex history of this symptomology we
                  can see that Michael Jackson's experiences and Heavens Gate suicides
                  are West Coast products of the Luciferic symptomology.

                  In America we have Los Vegas as the collection of all decadent
                  mystery impulses, such as the Pyramid, Sphinx and Rome, all serving
                  the addictive impulses of gambling and resurrecting in the desert the
                  fallen Luciferic Images of culture. Wall Street has an Ahrimanic
                  influence that spreads through economy and the world and forms the
                  basis of either corrupt use of corporate group rulership or the
                  unfolding of moral forces that exist in Corporations with moral
                  leadership.

                  Hopefully we can see some of the sweeping insights that STeiner was
                  trying to present in his INNER ASPECTS OF EVOLUTION.

                  http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/GA/GA0171/19160917p01.html

                  "It was actually the descendants of the old Atlantean teachers who
                  were now working from a place in Asia. A priest there had been
                  educated to behold — to have a belated vision, as it were, of what
                  the Atlanteans called the "Great Spirit," and to receive his
                  commands. These the priest communicated to a young man of remarkable
                  energy and strength who, by virtue of this authority, received the
                  name "The Great Ruler of the Earth" from his community. This was
                  Genghis Khan. The Great Spirit, through his follower and through that
                  priest, gave to Genghis Khan the command to summon all the powers of
                  Asia to spread the influence that would lead the fifth post-Atlantean
                  age back into a luciferic form. These forces — and they were far more
                  powerful than the forces established in Greek culture — were all
                  employed to this end. Free imaginations were to be changed into old,
                  visionary imaginations. Every effort was to be made to lull the soul
                  of man to sleep in a dim and dreamy experience of imaginations
                  instead of a free experience filled through and through with clear
                  understanding.

                  "With the help of the special forces that had been preserved from
                  Atlantis, it was the intended purpose to carry an influence into the
                  West that would make its culture visionary. Then it would have become
                  possible to separate the souls of men from the earth and to form a
                  new continent, a new planetary body with them. All the unrest and
                  disturbance that came into the evolution of modern man through the
                  Mongolian invasions, everything connected with them that has gone on
                  working into the fifth post-Atlantean epoch — all this unrest, which
                  was prepared long ago, is nothing more than the great attempt that is
                  being made from Asia to bring about a visionary European culture. It
                  would cut it off from the conditions of its further evolution and
                  lead it altogether away from the earth, just as the East has
                  experienced again and again this feeling of being filled with vision
                  and of wanting to be estranged from the earth.

                  "Something was needed to counterbalance this tendency. An opposite
                  trend had to be created as a counterforce that moves in the direction
                  of the normal evolution of mankind. The influence of Genghis Khan's
                  priest was intended to bring about a kind of buoyancy and lightness
                  in the human race that would draw man away from the earth. Over
                  against this, a corresponding heaviness had to come to man from the
                  weight of the earth; this was provided through the discovery of the
                  western world. America, with all that it holds, was discovered and
                  thereby earth heaviness, the desire to remain on earth, was given to
                  man. The discovery of America and everything connected with it, and
                  the way man carried his life into the many new places of the earth,
                  all this, when seen in wider connections, shows itself as a
                  counterbalancing force to the activity of Genghis Khan. America had
                  to be discovered so that man might be brought to grow closer to the
                  earth, to grow more and more materialistic. Man needed weight and
                  heaviness to counterbalance the spiritualization that was the aim of
                  the descendants of the "Great Spirit."

                  "Along with this normal process whereby the scene of action of man's
                  life was extended to America, we find the other forces, the ahrimanic
                  powers of the "Great Spirit," intervening again. An influence came
                  from America to Europe, and another came to permeate America from
                  Asia. Thus, normal forces developed through the discovery of America
                  and also powerful ahrimanic onslaughts. They worked less strongly at
                  first, but will continue to work in our time and on into the future.
                  We must learn to recognize these ahrimanic forces.

                  "What Rome had achieved in the Church and in the ecclesiastical state
                  was grasped by the ahrimanic influence. While it is comparatively
                  easy to see how the luciferic influence worked on Genghis Khan — we
                  have exact knowledge of the fact that a priest was initiated by the
                  follower of the "Great Spirit" — it is much more difficult to say how
                  the ahrimanic spirit worked. This is because the ahrimanic influence
                  is dispersed and scattered. But you need only study how Spain,
                  strictly Roman Catholic as it was, was fascinated by all the
                  treasures of gold that were discovered in America. What a hold it had
                  upon her! You can observe how strong the specter-like working of the
                  old Romanism still was in such a ruler as Ferdinand of Castile or
                  Charles V, the ruler of the kingdom over which the "sun never set."
                  Study the reaction of Europe to the gradual discovery and opening up
                  of America and you will see what temptations came from that
                  direction. Taken all in all, it is a history of temptation woven in
                  with a history that runs a normal course. "

                  (snipped)

                  "This condition did not come about because, mingled with the "self-
                  deifying madness" of Greek poetry, to quote Plato, was the genius and
                  greatness of Greek philosophy and wisdom. The Greek philosophers —
                  Heraclitus, Thales, Anaximenes, Anaximander, Parmenides, Socrates,
                  Plato and Aristotle — saved Greek civilization from being completely
                  spiritualized in a life of fantasy. They kept the Greeks on earth,
                  providing the strongest forces that kept Greece within earthly
                  evolution. In considering the course of history, we must always take
                  into account the forces that lie behind physical reality and are the
                  true causes of all that happens. It was, then, in this way that
                  Greece was preserved for earthly evolution.

                  "Now, the luciferic beings would have been unable to achieve anything
                  at all without the help of the ahrimanic beings. In all their
                  intentions and hope they reckoned on their support. Indeed, it must
                  always be that two forces strive together in this kind of working.
                  Just as the luciferic beings were disappointed in Greece, so were the
                  ahrimanic beings disappointed in Rome and the way it developed. The
                  luciferic beings wanted to lead Grecian souls away from the earth-
                  planet and the ahrimanic beings wanted to contribute their efforts to
                  the end that the Roman civilization would assume a particular form.
                  The ahrimanic beings exerted their strongest efforts in Rome, just as
                  the luciferic beings did in Greece. They calculated that a certain
                  hardening would arise on earth brought about by an entirely blind
                  obedience and subjection to Rome. What did the ahrimanic powers want
                  to accomplish in Rome? They wanted to establish a Roman Empire that
                  would extend over the whole of the then known world, embracing within
                  it every human activity. It would be directed entirely from Rome with
                  the strictest centralization and the utmost development of the rule
                  of might. They sought to establish a widely flung state machinery
                  that would include and make subject to it all religious and artistic
                  life. Its goal would be to stamp out all individuality. Every people
                  and human being would comprise merely some small part of this mighty
                  state machine. "

                  "Rome would have assumed a form that would have given Ahriman a
                  splendid opportunity to achieve his aim since, through the spiritual
                  decline of a Roman rule that had been transformed into a papacy, the
                  mechanizing of culture could have been accomplished. So another
                  external power had to be brought against Ahriman, who works with much
                  more external means than Lucifer. Ahriman, as we have seen, diverted
                  the forces of Christianity to his own service. Another power had to
                  be brought against him."





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                • Soledad-Cielo-Azure
                  Dear Friends in Christ, holderlin66 has kindly given us a wonderful introduction to Steve Talbott and his insightful publication, *Netfuture,* via the link
                  Message 8 of 18 , Jul 1, 2003
                    Dear Friends in Christ,

                    holderlin66 has kindly given us a wonderful introduction to Steve Talbott
                    and his insightful publication, *Netfuture,* via the link below
                    http://www.praxagora.com/stevet/netfuture/2003/Jun2403_146.html

                    as well as highlighting some historical world influences such as Genghis
                    Khan, who seemingly has no redemptive qualities but who, in fact, like
                    Alexander the Great and others, played vitally necessary roles in mankinds'
                    future evolution. Perhaps it is also in Steiner's St. Gallen lectures,
                    "Geographic Medicine," of November 15 and 16, 1917 where we are led to
                    understand the necessity of the New World's re-discovery being delayed for
                    quite specific and correct rationales. One might also think not only of
                    holderlin66's valuable mention of Steiner's *Inner Aspects of Evolution,*
                    also entitled *Inner Impulses of Evolution,* but in addition, lectures on
                    The Knight's Templars and other reachings-backward-into-historical-times,
                    all included together within the one-volume collection entitled "Inner
                    Impulses of Evolution; The Mexican Mysteries; The Knights Templar." It seems
                    to me these truths as well as so many others given us by Steiner, such as
                    his "Occult History," the eight "Karmic Relationship"volumes, etc. give us
                    the truths of the Bard's oft quoted "All the world's a stage..." as well as
                    a view of how earthly events and personalities coelesce into a perhaps
                    unconscious working-behind-the-scenes order planned and put into place for
                    the further evolution of mankind and the world itself. I leave holderlin66's
                    words intact below for their timeless importance for our insight and
                    understanding for world evolution as we progress further.

                    Lovingly,

                    Soledad
                    --------------------------------------------------------------
                    holderlin66 wrote:
                    Genghis Khan, whose interesting force, left over from
                    the Atlantean oracles, can be seen in the opening sequence of the
                    film, "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin.

                    But more importantly is locating our visual cultural addiction to
                    Luciferic film imagery - not as a study of cultural symptomology, but
                    rather as an effort to bloat our untransformed imaginations into
                    Luciferic vehicles. This allows Ahriman to sweep into the moral,
                    human, Goethean Rights Sphere and undermine the soul with curious
                    attacks that enter through Science and Politics and our minds go limp
                    in the process of grasping it. That is one of the reasons why a
                    Goethean World conception is an antidote to the Three Temptations
                    that Christ experienced in the Desert. We are humans, surrounded by
                    the Logos of Nature and Spirit - we are not machines.

                    Imperialism as in Roman Imperialism and American superpower
                    Imperialism has come under the dangerous battle between Hollywood's
                    images and Luciferic contents and Washingtons Ahrimanic Political
                    agendas. To understand the complex history of this symptomology we
                    can see that Michael Jackson's experiences and Heavens Gate suicides
                    are West Coast products of the Luciferic symptomology.

                    In America we have Los Vegas as the collection of all decadent
                    mystery impulses, such as the Pyramid, Sphinx and Rome, all serving
                    the addictive impulses of gambling and resurrecting in the desert the
                    fallen Luciferic Images of culture. Wall Street has an Ahrimanic
                    influence that spreads through economy and the world and forms the
                    basis of either corrupt use of corporate group rulership or the
                    unfolding of moral forces that exist in Corporations with moral
                    leadership.

                    Hopefully we can see some of the sweeping insights that STeiner was
                    trying to present in his INNER ASPECTS OF EVOLUTION.

                    http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/GA/GA0171/19160917p01.html

                    "It was actually the descendants of the old Atlantean teachers who
                    were now working from a place in Asia. A priest there had been
                    educated to behold - to have a belated vision, as it were, of what
                    the Atlanteans called the "Great Spirit," and to receive his
                    commands. These the priest communicated to a young man of remarkable
                    energy and strength who, by virtue of this authority, received the
                    name "The Great Ruler of the Earth" from his community. This was
                    Genghis Khan. The Great Spirit, through his follower and through that
                    priest, gave to Genghis Khan the command to summon all the powers of
                    Asia to spread the influence that would lead the fifth post-Atlantean
                    age back into a luciferic form. These forces - and they were far more
                    powerful than the forces established in Greek culture - were all
                    employed to this end. Free imaginations were to be changed into old,
                    visionary imaginations. Every effort was to be made to lull the soul
                    of man to sleep in a dim and dreamy experience of imaginations
                    instead of a free experience filled through and through with clear
                    understanding.

                    "With the help of the special forces that had been preserved from
                    Atlantis, it was the intended purpose to carry an influence into the
                    West that would make its culture visionary. Then it would have become
                    possible to separate the souls of men from the earth and to form a
                    new continent, a new planetary body with them. All the unrest and
                    disturbance that came into the evolution of modern man through the
                    Mongolian invasions, everything connected with them that has gone on
                    working into the fifth post-Atlantean epoch - all this unrest, which
                    was prepared long ago, is nothing more than the great attempt that is
                    being made from Asia to bring about a visionary European culture. It
                    would cut it off from the conditions of its further evolution and
                    lead it altogether away from the earth, just as the East has
                    experienced again and again this feeling of being filled with vision
                    and of wanting to be estranged from the earth.

                    "Something was needed to counterbalance this tendency. An opposite
                    trend had to be created as a counterforce that moves in the direction
                    of the normal evolution of mankind. The influence of Genghis Khan's
                    priest was intended to bring about a kind of buoyancy and lightness
                    in the human race that would draw man away from the earth. Over
                    against this, a corresponding heaviness had to come to man from the
                    weight of the earth; this was provided through the discovery of the
                    western world. America, with all that it holds, was discovered and
                    thereby earth heaviness, the desire to remain on earth, was given to
                    man. The discovery of America and everything connected with it, and
                    the way man carried his life into the many new places of the earth,
                    all this, when seen in wider connections, shows itself as a
                    counterbalancing force to the activity of Genghis Khan. America had
                    to be discovered so that man might be brought to grow closer to the
                    earth, to grow more and more materialistic. Man needed weight and
                    heaviness to counterbalance the spiritualization that was the aim of
                    the descendants of the "Great Spirit."

                    "Along with this normal process whereby the scene of action of man's
                    life was extended to America, we find the other forces, the ahrimanic
                    powers of the "Great Spirit," intervening again. An influence came
                    from America to Europe, and another came to permeate America from
                    Asia. Thus, normal forces developed through the discovery of America
                    and also powerful ahrimanic onslaughts. They worked less strongly at
                    first, but will continue to work in our time and on into the future.
                    We must learn to recognize these ahrimanic forces.

                    "What Rome had achieved in the Church and in the ecclesiastical state
                    was grasped by the ahrimanic influence. While it is comparatively
                    easy to see how the luciferic influence worked on Genghis Khan - we
                    have exact knowledge of the fact that a priest was initiated by the
                    follower of the "Great Spirit" - it is much more difficult to say how
                    the ahrimanic spirit worked. This is because the ahrimanic influence
                    is dispersed and scattered. But you need only study how Spain,
                    strictly Roman Catholic as it was, was fascinated by all the
                    treasures of gold that were discovered in America. What a hold it had
                    upon her! You can observe how strong the specter-like working of the
                    old Romanism still was in such a ruler as Ferdinand of Castile or
                    Charles V, the ruler of the kingdom over which the "sun never set."
                    Study the reaction of Europe to the gradual discovery and opening up
                    of America and you will see what temptations came from that
                    direction. Taken all in all, it is a history of temptation woven in
                    with a history that runs a normal course. "

                    (snipped)

                    "This condition did not come about because, mingled with the "self-
                    deifying madness" of Greek poetry, to quote Plato, was the genius and
                    greatness of Greek philosophy and wisdom. The Greek philosophers -
                    Heraclitus, Thales, Anaximenes, Anaximander, Parmenides, Socrates,
                    Plato and Aristotle - saved Greek civilization from being completely
                    spiritualized in a life of fantasy. They kept the Greeks on earth,
                    providing the strongest forces that kept Greece within earthly
                    evolution. In considering the course of history, we must always take
                    into account the forces that lie behind physical reality and are the
                    true causes of all that happens. It was, then, in this way that
                    Greece was preserved for earthly evolution.

                    "Now, the luciferic beings would have been unable to achieve anything
                    at all without the help of the ahrimanic beings. In all their
                    intentions and hope they reckoned on their support. Indeed, it must
                    always be that two forces strive together in this kind of working.
                    Just as the luciferic beings were disappointed in Greece, so were the
                    ahrimanic beings disappointed in Rome and the way it developed. The
                    luciferic beings wanted to lead Grecian souls away from the earth-
                    planet and the ahrimanic beings wanted to contribute their efforts to
                    the end that the Roman civilization would assume a particular form.
                    The ahrimanic beings exerted their strongest efforts in Rome, just as
                    the luciferic beings did in Greece. They calculated that a certain
                    hardening would arise on earth brought about by an entirely blind
                    obedience and subjection to Rome. What did the ahrimanic powers want
                    to accomplish in Rome? They wanted to establish a Roman Empire that
                    would extend over the whole of the then known world, embracing within
                    it every human activity. It would be directed entirely from Rome with
                    the strictest centralization and the utmost development of the rule
                    of might. They sought to establish a widely flung state machinery
                    that would include and make subject to it all religious and artistic
                    life. Its goal would be to stamp out all individuality. Every people
                    and human being would comprise merely some small part of this mighty
                    state machine. "

                    "Rome would have assumed a form that would have given Ahriman a
                    splendid opportunity to achieve his aim since, through the spiritual
                    decline of a Roman rule that had been transformed into a papacy, the
                    mechanizing of culture could have been accomplished. So another
                    external power had to be brought against Ahriman, who works with much
                    more external means than Lucifer. Ahriman, as we have seen, diverted
                    the forces of Christianity to his own service. Another power had to
                    be brought against him."
                  • Bradford Riley
                    From: Soledad-Cielo-Azure ... but in addition, lectures on ... Soledad Steiner s comments to establish a Roman Empire
                    Message 9 of 18 , Jul 2, 2003
                      From: "Soledad-Cielo-Azure" <soledad-cielo-azure@...>
                      : Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:52:12 -0700
                      >
                      >Dear Friends in Christ,
                      >
                      >
                      but in addition, lectures on
                      >The Knight's Templars and other reachings-backward-into-historical-times,
                      >all included together within the one-volume collection entitled "Inner
                      >Impulses of Evolution; The Mexican Mysteries; The Knights Templar." It
                      >seems
                      >to me these truths as well as so many others given us by Steiner, such as
                      >his "Occult History," the eight "Karmic Relationship"volumes, etc. give us
                      >the truths of the Bard's oft quoted "All the world's a stage..." as well as
                      >a view of how earthly events and personalities coelesce into a perhaps
                      >unconscious working-behind-the-scenes order planned and put into place for
                      >the further evolution of mankind and the world itself. I leave
                      >holderlin66's
                      >words intact below for their timeless importance for our insight and
                      >understanding for world evolution as we progress further.
                      >
                      >Lovingly,
                      >
                      Soledad

                      Steiner's comments

                      "to establish a Roman Empire that
                      >would extend over the whole of the then known world, embracing within
                      >it every human activity. It would be directed entirely from Rome with
                      >the strictest centralization and the utmost development of the rule
                      >of might. They sought to establish a widely flung state machinery
                      >that would include and make subject to it all religious and artistic
                      >life. Its goal would be to stamp out all individuality. Every people
                      >and human being would comprise merely some small part of this mighty
                      >state machine. "
                      >
                      >"Rome would have assumed a form that would have given Ahriman a
                      >splendid opportunity to achieve his aim since, through the spiritual
                      >decline of a Roman rule that had been transformed into a papacy, the
                      >mechanizing of culture could have been accomplished. So another
                      >external power had to be brought against Ahriman, who works with much
                      >more external means than Lucifer. Ahriman, as we have seen, diverted
                      >the forces of Christianity to his own service. Another power had to
                      >be brought against him."

                      Bradford comments;

                      Thanks Soul Dad, er, sorry SoleDad and Paul. We know we have to thank
                      Steiner, CR. and the Mystery Rose Crowned Thorn Bearer for what resembles a
                      Ring of Truth and Research into why Goetheanism is an answer to the
                      Temptations of Christ by Luciferic and Ahrimanic assault teams in the war
                      torn Israel/Palestine region. But all of this comes down to the battle for
                      the brains of mankind.

                      Coming in on a closer look, we see that the historical connection to an
                      Aristotle vs a Plato and the painting of the School of Athens by Raphael
                      impulse, indicate lightness of archetypes-Jungian Luciferic forces; and
                      density of Science as in materialism. Aristotle, as Steiner found again and
                      again ground of comparison, between the discovery of America and Aristotle's
                      weight to his investigation of matter and launching materilistic science out
                      of Greek culture, was an antidote to a Luciferic force. We see again the
                      amazing ancient conflict between Plato and Aristotle as a balancing act
                      between that which would have made a helium baloon out of the mighty Logos
                      forces of the Greek culture, balanced by Aristotles launching the well
                      grounded, earth borne sciences.

                      This made Aristotle a real target for both Materialism and the Archai
                      impulse of Michael. Paul Wolfowitz and the adviser Aristotle are seen with
                      lens of a karmic vision, as Soledad was verging on. The difference is we
                      need to grasp the grand shift that the karma of Steiner accomplished in
                      taking Aristotle-Aquinas and Science and Relgion itself into the field of
                      modern Spiritual Science. Now we understand the union of
                      Aquinas-Steiner-Aristotle as the term Spiritual Science. The gods must have
                      thought Aristotle had what it takes or he needed to redeem the direction of
                      materialistic science and antidote it with understanding of Ahrimanic
                      symptomology.

                      These are things that are not taught in your schools Horatio. How Greek
                      culture was saved from Luciferic Jungianism by Aristotle. America further,
                      currently is becoming all that Ahrimanic symptomology hoped old Rome and
                      Christianity would become. The description of What Ahriman intended for Rome
                      can now be superimposed over the Imperialistic-techno-capitalism, with
                      wireless mighty grey birds flying overhead in a new micro weave of A Berlin
                      Wall between the Moon and the Earth. A techno berlin wall raised between the
                      Moon and the Earth and sentries of hydra headed eyes ever circling, circling
                      the decaying carcass of humanity. This is what was recently understood from
                      a quote by Tolkien.

                      Now that does not mean that I am against the technology or the democracy
                      that could be elevated by merely preservering the Rights Sphere and holding
                      the human I AM and the wisdom we here discuss as key to education. Such a
                      remodeling of the U.N. is something I clearly have at my fingertips. Not
                      again from me, but from a Michael World Community. But in light of the vivid
                      description of Ahrimanic symptomology that Steiner gave for Rome and the
                      Church- the religion of materialism and American Imperialism is just another
                      massive power base that Ahriman is using like a Puppet Master. We fail to
                      see the strings, but worst is that self knowledge, get this, self knowledge
                      does not extend to anyone in office or working, to observe these concrete
                      factors. Yet, if you really understand the opening to "The Shadow" or you
                      watch the array of films coming out of Hollywood, you see that someone, as
                      the "Matrix", truly does understand brotherhoods all the way up to the
                      esoteric warnings of Harrison.

                      It is, in the continent of the very brains and thinking, that is solidly
                      reinforced in the INtellectual Soul, and supported in the roots of feeling
                      by false sentient soul patriotic BS and fundi ideas that give Neocon a bad
                      name. Brains..brains..brains.. Danny brought up Hannibal and the Red Dragon
                      and indeed I have often remarked that Steiner first encountered this
                      seething world in Nietzsche's infested brain. The territory of human
                      thinking, political agenda and policy, in our human brains and lightly
                      rooted in the sentient sympathies of power- all left over from old Church
                      incarnation paradigms, is a massive global infection. These mind games are
                      true WMD. This is why Steiner indicated a need to study Ahrimanic
                      symptomology.

                      Finally, everything that was indicated about the Washingtonites, hating
                      Hollywooders is really and Goetheanistically; and in polarity of tension
                      between the Ahrimanic and Luciferic agendas. Hollywood often produces grand
                      visions but this, in the normal mode of soul condition, while indicating
                      great truths, falls on deaf ears. Yet these are the conditions of our Times
                      our Time Spirit Watch. Luciferic symptoms battle with ahrimanic symptoms and
                      cancel that which we find fruitful to understand, out. Luciferic Hollywood
                      vision, with rich thought filled connections, like Greek Luciferic Oracles,
                      comes in thousands and thousands of forms to our conceptual mirroring.

                      Since no Christ Event of the magnitude we can discuss freely here is in the
                      souls of men.. they are tossed back and forth, they mistakenly call it
                      freedom, when it is tossed back and forth between untransformed Luciferic
                      forces and untransformed Ahrimanic forces. In the center, the false shadow
                      of Christ, the anchor to their soul turmoil is in Fundamentalism. Think of
                      it. The anchor to this tossing back and forth is rock solid, dogmatic
                      fundamentalism in forms of both Islamic, Christian and Jewish faiths. Think
                      about the anchor that they hold onto to steady themselves against what we
                      understand clearly as a global agenda to confuse the greatness of the Human
                      Spirit. What Anchor should they find, if they could find it? That is where
                      we come in.

                      28 Days is coming out. Mary Shelley wrote something, connected as it is with
                      Frankensteinian Science ideas, a book, a long book, called the Last Man or
                      something that had to do with a terrible plague. Further Stephen King in his
                      "The Stand" does the same thing.. Why... because Fear and terror of the
                      manipulations of what they might do to us in America and the world needs to
                      be planted as a terrifying fear.. just like "The Sum of all Fears" played
                      out in time for us to consider what it would be like if Saddaam suddenly,
                      with 45 minutes took out an American city... This is why, such horrific
                      deceptions that are keeping us off balance, must not be supported out of the
                      Michael School and must be seen for what they are.. Deceptions and Agendas..
                      and it is the Agenda and intensity of the Ahrimanic forces that we have the
                      opportunity to out think and make them squirm.

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                      I am as happy as the next soul to understand Dear Friends in Christ. That does not mean that my insights into Christ cannot recognize other spirited and
                      Message 10 of 18 , Jul 2, 2003
                        I am as happy as the next soul to understand Dear Friends in Christ.
                        That does not mean that my insights into Christ cannot recognize
                        other spirited and individualized expressons that dovetail into
                        Steiner's researches. Modern language and writing style, as well as
                        film dialogue can't be dismissed because they fail to use the word
                        Christ or Michael in our own ages fiery tongue. Now we are far safer
                        in discussing Ahrimanic symptomology, but we cannot fail to see where
                        the trails for this symptomology arise. Here we have to do with
                        Steiner's references to Oswald Spengler.

                        http://www.historyguide.org/europe/spengler.html

                        "A boundless mass of human Being, flowing in a stream without banks;
                        up-stream, a dark past wherein our time-sense loses all powers of
                        definition and restless or uneasy fancy conjures up geological
                        periods to hide away an eternally-unsolvable riddle; down-stream, a
                        future even so dark and timeless -- such is the groundwork of the
                        Faustian picture of human history."

                        ---Oswald Spengler, The Decline of the West, 1918

                        Fuk U Francis
                        When history refuses to end, put it out of its misery.

                        http://www.nypress.com/16/27/news&columns/cage.cfm

                        Years ago, I had a great idea for a book. It was going to be called
                        The End of Francis Fukuyama. The meat of the book would be a self-
                        consciously dry deconstruction of the professor's anthemic neo-
                        liberal rant about the end of history and the final triumph of
                        Western political values. There would be action in the book as well,
                        where I–the advanced product of American liberal democracy–would
                        first stalk the professor up and down the DC suburbs, i.e. sit in
                        wait in an idling car outside faculty conferences at his Johns
                        Hopkins office, occupy the adjoining hotel room in his Asian academic
                        junkets, etc. Then, finally, I would march right into his house and
                        actually kill him. The End of Francis Fukuyama.

                        The book would contain just one picture, a full-color deal facing the
                        last page, showing me eating Cheerios out of his skull.

                        Ultimately I backed off the idea in fright. I was living in Russia at
                        the time, and the obvious Dostoyevskian angles of the idea made me
                        feel uncomfortable even joking about it. The possibility that the
                        book would end up having a long second section detailing my prison
                        conversion by Chuck Colson instantly soured even the briefest
                        daydream. As penance I ended up dropping Fukuyama entirely and
                        writing a failed script for a sitcom pilot called They're Revolting!,
                        about a group of stinky anti-globalization revolutionaries who engage
                        in hilarious hijinks as they concoct boneheaded plans for revolution
                        from a studio made up to look like a Vermont commune.

                        Not long ago, I started thinking a lot about Fukuyama again–even
                        before he resurfaced last week with an ominous new theory of neo-
                        imperialism that, if History is any guide, will be legitimized in the
                        mainstream sooner or later.

                        It has been 14 years, almost to the day, since Fukuyama–a former
                        Reagan advisor and an influence on Paul Wolfowitz–published, to great
                        fanfare, an article entitled "The End of History?" in the summer
                        issue of The National Interest. The essay was a labyrinthine piece of
                        theory that recalled Marx, Hegel, and Reaganite foreign policy
                        simultaneously, and was joyously misinterpreted by people on all
                        sides.

                        I was 19 and stoned when it came out and wouldn't have been capable
                        of reading the first sentence. The basic premise, though, was fairly
                        easy to understand: Mankind at the end of the Cold War had ascended
                        to the mountaintop and completed his ideological evolution, with
                        Western liberal democracy the victor. Our system was the "final form
                        of human government." Fukuyama was careful to point out that this
                        didn't mean that the world would be free of disaster, tumult or
                        social problems, only that no higher form of government would
                        supercede our own.

                        The philosopher was so sure about all of this that he was actually a
                        little sad about history having ended, noting that "in the post-
                        historical period there will be neither art nor philosophy, just the
                        perpetual caretaking of the museum of human history."

                        The problem I had with Fukuyama, when I grew old enough to read his
                        book, wasn't that he was completely full of shit, which he is. It was
                        that he was also right. Whether he was articulating something that
                        was already brewing in the minds of most Americans, or whether he
                        actually helped the process along with his asinine theory, we now
                        live in a world that acts exactly like the world Fukuyama describes.

                        People around the world who are bewildered by the dumb confidence
                        Americans have in their system as the be-all, end-all of human
                        existence would find the answers to their questions in The End of
                        History: a blueprint for a society that can safely stop trying to
                        better itself.

                        That was my initial reaction to Fukuyama. Then, a few weeks ago, I
                        thought about him again, while attempting to determine the reason why
                        I wanted to pack all of the Democratic presidential candidates into a
                        missile and shoot them into space.

                        What I ultimately came up with was this: Here we are, in a world that
                        is completely and utterly insane–where giant fast-food companies
                        spend fortunes researching the responses of three- and four-year-olds
                        in order to exploit them, where billions of dollars are pissed away
                        every day on shitty movies like Finding Nemo while schools are going
                        down to the four-day week, and where the average New Yorker sees
                        three or four thousand ads a day, most of which tell him he's fat and
                        impotent and a Nissan is a better buy than his wife–and these
                        candidates are up there tinkering, talking about a balanced budget
                        and repealing tax cuts. There isn't a guy among them who even hints
                        at anything like horror before our fatuous, commercial lives.

                        The Democrats, just like the vapid artists that Fukuyama correctly
                        predicted would dominate our lives, don't want to be anything other
                        than better caretakers for that museum of human history. They don't
                        try to imagine a fundamentally better world, because they actually
                        believe that there isn't one. They're buffoons straight out of
                        Voltaire, running on a platform of "Our mild improvements to this
                        best of all possible worlds."

                        Then last week Fukuyama published an article in various foreign
                        newspapers (including The Korea Herald) entitled "America's Unwilling
                        Imperialism." In it, he argues that the "activist thrust" of George
                        Bush's foreign policy–which he sees as rooted in a desire to remake
                        various Middle Eastern societies along Western democratic lines–is
                        undermined by a failure to act with sufficient imperialist will. When
                        Bush talks about staying in Iraq only as long as necessary and "not a
                        day more," in other words, he's fatally limiting his options.

                        "This failure to be a committed imperialist power," he writes, "has
                        already undermined its early efforts at nation building in Iraq, and
                        threatens to stymie the whole activist thrust of recent U.S. foreign
                        policy."

                        Fukuyama has always been troubled by those backward non-Western
                        nations which he felt were "mired in history." Clearly with the
                        arrival of Bush (and Condoleezza Rice, an old friend of his) he sees
                        the opportunity to rectify their plight by force. If we work fast
                        enough, we might in our lifetime experience the nirvana of a whole
                        world sitting contentedly in a pool of blood at the finish line of
                        history.

                        Volume 16, Issue 27
                      • starbirdgarden
                        Comes Eabani, Nathan-Soul Companion, a shining star host, from sun rea= lms of unfallen ethers, through the Zodiac, through the planetary spheres, conning= ,
                        Message 11 of 18 , Jul 2, 2003
                          Comes Eabani, Nathan-Soul Companion, a shining star host, from sun rea=
                          lms of
                          unfallen ethers, through the Zodiac, through the planetary spheres, conning=
                          , con-
                          versing with Animal Group Souls, weaving time through space, falling willin=
                          g, enters
                          Earth life and Mystery Mission.
                          Mighty cosmic imaginations are his body, overture of the New Song rings =
                          and
                          resounds in his soul,he bears infinite cultic wisdom from the Hierarchical =
                          Beings with
                          whom he has sojourned long. Mysteries of Metals, Mysteries of Plants are hi=
                          s.
                          Eabani, Heavenly Bull Fighter, looks past the binding, magic imbued bl=
                          ood-
                          mysteries to the fellowship of Spirit. The fall is re-enacted, Eabani bec=
                          omes man,
                          and knows sickness and death. A sacrifice is made, a path forged that can =
                          one day
                          pass through death to resurrection. The mystery of the true spiritual foun=
                          dation of
                          matter, the knowledge of the hollow sun is brought from it's own Spirit My=
                          stery
                          Centre, and gifted to humanity.
                          Comes Alan Turing. In The Code Book, by Simon Sing, author of Fermat'=
                          s Enigma,
                          there is a fascinating account of Alan Turing's death. Alan Turing, whose =
                          undoubted
                          brilliance of mind paved the way for computing science, whose machine enabl=
                          ed the
                          breaking of codes others could not crack, was ridiculed by neighbours as o=
                          ne who
                          had not helped the war effort, as the work at Bletchley Park was secret. Tu=
                          ring was
                          arrested as an homosexual, given various medications and committed suicide =
                          (?) by
                          the extraordinary means of dipping an apple in a cyanide mixture and taking=
                          a bite.
                          He had been fascinated by the film Snow White, and was fond of repeating th=
                          e lines

                          Dip the apple in the brew
                          Let the sleeping death seep through.

                          So a bite is once more taken from an apple from the Tree of Knowledge=
                          , symbol
                          of the Apple Mac at which I sit.(Apple with bite) Cyanide, destructive ev=
                          en of soul
                          forces. Death that reaches beyond the body – counter resurrection.

                          Conning – knowing. Present usage Conning – deceiving.


                          Comes King David, Angel-like, Harpist, Psalmist, instigated a census. The m=
                          usical,
                          numerical harmonies of the chemical ether were his to soothe, to heal. No=
                          w he
                          instigates a census and a terrible pestilence ensues. Emil Bock puts it th=
                          us in his
                          book Kings and Prophets.

                          Along with that census, which degraded the living human being for the =
                          first time
                          into a mere number, something so unfamiliar and foreign gripped the people =
                          that a
                          chill dismay and horror spread about that extended under the threshold of
                          consciousness deep into the physical body. The souls became estranged from=
                          their
                          physical incarnation as in a shock and terrible processes of decay invaded =
                          the bodies.
                          Naturally, neither the Bible nor he who confronts it here with positi=
                          ve
                          understanding, means to imply that mankind should never have allowed reason=
                          and
                          statistics to have entered their cultural life……. The cold spirit of stati=
                          stics has a
                          perilous nature only when it is put to use in a wrong, premature manner bef=
                          ore the
                          soul has grown strong enough to tolerate and compensate for the chilling in=
                          fluence.
                          End of quote

                          Comes Charles Babbage, son of a London Banker in 1791, a mathematical ge=
                          nius
                          who created calculating engines, which also were vital to the development =
                          of modern
                          computing. He was a statistician and compiler of MORTALITY tables. On rea=
                          ding the
                          poem Vision of Sin by Tennyson, he was irritated at the line which read

                          Every moment dies a man, every moment one is born.

                          He wrote as follows, offering a correction.
                          It must be manifest that if this were true the population of the world =
                          would be at a
                          standstill. I suggest that in the next edition of your poem you have it re=
                          ad Every
                          moment dies a man, every moment one and one sixteenth is born. The actual =
                          figure
                          is so long I cannot get it on a line, but I believe the figure I have given=
                          is sufficiently
                          accurate for poetry. I am, Sir, yours etc. end of quote.

                          In the late sixties TV series, The Prisoner, Patrick McGoohan portrayed a=
                          man
                          imprisoned in a Truman Show like village, where he had been designated as n=
                          umber
                          6. Refusing to be broken in spirit he would shout I am not a number I am =
                          a free
                          man! The series attracted a cult following, as it was an external symptom=
                          atic picture
                          of an inner condition many were becoming aware of, albeit vaguely.
                          This is only one form of reducing the human being. There are others. =
                          Seeing a
                          human being as only a statistic, a number, summing one up and getting a wro=
                          ng
                          answer, is one of the false conceptions, counter images which, as Steiner w=
                          arns,
                          adversary powers use as a technique in the occult imprisonment of humanity,=
                          now
                          beginning to cross the threshold.
                          If we humans can be convinced that we consist of atoms, that the univer=
                          se is
                          simply constructed of tiny bits of substance, then, as part of this univers=
                          e, we are as
                          atoms also, and can be tossed here and there, incorporated into whatever
                          mechanised universe is constructed for us. The world of the atom is finite=
                          . If I am
                          physically in one space, you cannot be. So we may fight. Etheric bodies c=
                          an
                          interpenetrate, flow without boundaries, are social rather than merely pers=
                          onal.
                          Emil Bock rightly used the word chilling, because to give a person a=
                          single
                          numerical value is to freeze them , arresting the flow of the ethers into r=
                          igidity. A
                          sinister effect of this is the bringing of the etheric body into a sub-mate=
                          rialised state,
                          which cannot be accepted into the etheric world after death. The spiritual=
                          world
                          cannot accept solidified lies.
                          The lies are fairly clear – heart as pump, brain as computer, sun gase=
                          ous ball
                          which will die, nature nurture and so on. That is one thing. As humans ar=
                          e pressed
                          ever downwards, further into the dead-zone of the sub ethers, they get dep=
                          ressed.
                          They become ill, as did the subjects of King David, albeit differently. So=
                          lutions will be
                          and are being offered. Here we may see another branch of the division of t=
                          he two
                          future technologies. The etheric, and the sub-etheric, some of which are =
                          now being
                          disguised in some very subtle ways to mimic the living world.
                          For some time I have been interested in Patrick Flanagan. Briefly: -=
                          aged eight he
                          had a vivid dream (I believe involving aliens) in which he was told to stud=
                          y science
                          and help humanity. He was a prodigy, and aged 12 invented a missile detect=
                          or, which
                          brought the interest of various government agencies. At 13 he invented the=

                          neurophone, an electrical device which by-passes filters in the brain which=
                          regulate
                          incoming impulses, information etc, and transmits message to all nerves in =
                          the brain
                          via a tiny pea sized organ of balance, saccule, in the inner ear.
                          Ostensibly for the deaf it conducts voice directly into the brain (not=
                          as is usual
                          through skull or bone conduction) the neurophone is now being offered as a =
                          so called
                          self improvement device. It can be recorded with affirmations (Which Ste=
                          iner called
                          repetitive lying) which are then played sub-audibly, subliminally into the=
                          brain during
                          sleep via the device. Or as a technique for learning while sleeping, as a t=
                          ape recording
                          is filtered out by the sleeping person, and little is retained.
                          Flanagan was an employee at the Pentagon working on weaponry and later=
                          was
                          connected with the CIA who apparently offered to fund him at any college of=
                          his
                          choice. No doubt out of the goodness of their hearts.
                          A good friend there specialised in subliminal manipulation of prisoner=
                          s. Instead
                          of the threat of physical torture, similar anxiety states could be induced =
                          by sub
                          audible sound and the subliminal displaying of images via screens or genera=
                          l décor –
                          pictures etc. He speaks of the overwhelming power of this technique, also =
                          used in
                          supermarkets to prevent shoplifting. Which apparently it does. No need fo=
                          r
                          conscience. Where else it may be used, and to what end he does not say.
                          Together they have devised speed-learning technology. He also promise=
                          s
                          telepathy, communication with dolphins, and protection from electro-magneti=
                          c fields
                          , to name but a few possibilities.
                          People are beginning to suffer physically from, therefore becoming awa=
                          re of,
                          electo magnetism both in workplace and home. Patrick Flanagan has the answ=
                          er to
                          this, in his white-noise modified into golden noise machine. White noise,c=
                          onsisting
                          of many thousands of random electrical frequencies, screens out other elect=
                          rical and
                          magnetic impulses. Creating a sort of Faraday Cage.
                          Flanagan has invented Golden Noise, ratios of sound in the golden prop=
                          ortion or
                          mean, played inaudibly, which INDUCE STATES OF BLISS AND ECSTACY.
                          This is précis only, as it is such a huge subject and as it was not th=
                          ought
                          necessary to educate the disabled, I have virtually no knowledge of anythin=
                          g much,
                          maths, physics, whatever, so over to those of you who know more.
                          In the light of Spiritual Science, I would say that the danger is that=
                          imaginations
                          arising in the sentient soul untransformed by the Ego become an unconscious=

                          clairvoyance.
                          Do we trust the Golden Noise not to have unknown subliminals? Here we=
                          see
                          Ahriman the copyist stealing the very measure of man, the true ratio and re=
                          -chording
                          it in a sub ether. Man as Symphony in Sub Ether, what a travesty. Ahriman =
                          protecting
                          us from Ahriman. Hmmmm.

                          Sorry to include nothing from today's posts as I have not had time to read =
                          them
                          properly.
                          Jan
                        • holderlin66
                          Steiner: http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/19211204p01.html The state of the people of Middle Europe, if they will not accept the Spiritual, was not badly
                          Message 12 of 18 , Jul 2, 2003
                            Steiner:

                            http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/19211204p01.html

                            "The state of the people of Middle Europe, if they will not accept
                            the Spiritual, was not badly described by a man who gave no thought
                            at all to the possibility of a spiritual regeneration of humanity.
                            Oswald Spengler has written his book on the Decline of the West, that
                            brilliant but thoroughly pessimistic book — although he has
                            repudiated the pessimism in a subsequent pamphlet. Of course, it is
                            pessimism to speak of the decline of the West. But Spengler is
                            actually speaking of the decline of culture, of something that is of
                            the soul. Without spiritual regeneration the people of Middle Europe
                            will suffer injury to their souls. But in this corner of Northern
                            Europe, human beings cannot be injured only in the life of soul; when
                            they are injured in the soul, their very bodily nature is injured at
                            the same time. In a way this is fortunate, for if the people of
                            Middle Europe do not accept spirituality, they become barbarian, they
                            degenerate in soul. The Northern people can only die out, in the
                            bodily sense, for everything depends here upon the particular
                            constitution of the body."

                            (snip)

                            "That is the thought I should like to leave with you. Those who feel
                            themselves Anthroposophists should realise that they are a tiny
                            handful of people in the world who must apply all their energy to
                            shaking a lazy humanity out of its lethargy and helping it onwards.
                            Those who hate Anthroposophy to-day — this may be said. among
                            ourselves — hate it because their love of comfort and ease prevents
                            them from being willing to grapple with the great tasks of humanity.
                            They are afraid of what they must overcome if they are to transform
                            their easy-going thoughts and feelings and experience something much
                            more profound.

                            "For this reason we see many a storm of opposition arising against
                            what is taking place in Anthroposophy and developing out of it. You
                            too will have to accustom yourselves to violent attacks being made
                            against Anthroposophy or Spiritual Science by reactionaries of every
                            kind, by all who love to saunter along their old beaten tracks.

                            "Those however who let this opposition deter them from developing
                            their powers, are not firmly rooted in the real task of
                            Anthroposophy. When people see how Anthroposophy is being attacked to-
                            day from all sides, they may become timid and say: Would it not be
                            better to go forward more quietly so that the opposition may be less
                            violent? Or again they may ask, if they find praise being meted out
                            to them by men who in a decadent age hold leading positions: What
                            have I done wrong? This is a matter of great importance from the
                            anthroposophical point of view. Attacks and abuse are usually
                            explicable for the reasons given above. But if praise were to come
                            from the same quarters, it would be a bad augury for anthroposophical
                            world! It is just because the opponents of Anthroposophy to-day do
                            attack it, that we can be reassured — but only, of course, in the
                            sense that we must apply all the more energy in order to introduce
                            Anthroposophy into the world, not out of personal idiosyncrasies but
                            out of a deep realisation of the needs and tasks of the world."
                          • holderlin66
                            STUDIES IN GOETHEAN PSYCHOLOGY Steiner; Now, the luciferic beings would have been unable to achieve anything at all without the help of the ahrimanic beings.
                            Message 13 of 18 , Jul 9, 2003
                              STUDIES IN GOETHEAN PSYCHOLOGY

                              Steiner;

                              ""Now, the luciferic beings would have been unable to achieve
                              anything
                              at all without the help of the ahrimanic beings. In all their
                              intentions and hope they reckoned on their support. Indeed, it must
                              always be that two forces strive together in this kind of working.
                              Just as the luciferic beings were disappointed in Greece, so were the
                              ahrimanic beings disappointed in Rome and the way it developed. The
                              luciferic beings wanted to lead Grecian souls away from the earth-
                              planet and the ahrimanic beings wanted to contribute their efforts to
                              the end that the Roman civilization would assume a particular form.
                              The ahrimanic beings exerted their strongest efforts in Rome, just as
                              the luciferic beings did in Greece. They calculated that a certain
                              hardening would arise on earth brought about by an entirely blind
                              obedience and subjection to Rome. What did the ahrimanic powers want
                              to accomplish in Rome? They wanted to establish a Roman Empire that
                              would extend over the whole of the then known world, embracing within
                              it every human activity. It would be directed entirely from Rome with
                              the strictest centralization and the utmost development of the rule
                              of might. They sought to establish a widely flung state machinery
                              that would include and make subject to it all religious and artistic
                              life. Its goal would be to stamp out all individuality. Every people
                              and human being would comprise merely some small part of this mighty
                              state machine. "

                              Bradford comments;

                              To meditate on this paragraph brings us to the current activities of
                              the Luciferic and Ahrimanic forces that have taken their abode in the
                              thinking of American Imperialism. America is the new Rome for the
                              Ahrimanic and Luciferic intentions that have not died out, as long as
                              humanity remains unconscious of the psychological entwining of these
                              forces within the psyche of each and every individual. To this, we
                              can look very closely at the arguments that Steve Talbott raised.

                              Talbott's current arguments in his Netfuture reveal exactly the
                              polarities of Inflation and Reductionism that are the hallmarks of
                              Luciferic and Ahrimanic working together towards their agenda, that
                              failed in Rome due to the Christ Event. Yet today, we have no
                              physical Christ Event, we have the moment when the Etheric Christ
                              arose and we have the Michael School indications that that which
                              appears as a type of Jungian level psychology is really the action of
                              untracked Beings within the soul strata of humanity. These can be
                              understood as dynamic Goethean observations in psychology.

                              http://www.praxagora.com/stevet/netfuture/2003/Jun2403_146.html

                              "Carl Jung may throw light on the matter. The Swiss
                              psychiatrist pointed out that when integral contents of the
                              personality
                              are lost to consciousness, an inferiority results. Moreover, the
                              sense of
                              inferiority gives rise to moral resentment and "always indicates that
                              the
                              missing element is something which, to judge by this feeling about it,
                              really ought not to be missing, or which could be made conscious if
                              only
                              one took sufficient trouble" (Two Essays in Analytical Psychology,
                              Princeton University, 1972, pp. 139ff.).

                              I feel free to mention this only because the way a personal lack
                              leads to
                              a sense of inferiority and then to moral resentment (so that we are
                              happy
                              to bring others down a peg or two, to our own level) is such a
                              universal
                              fact of life that none of us -- if we are possessed of the slightest
                              self-
                              awareness -- can fail to recognize the process in our own lives. So
                              it is
                              not a matter of pointing fingers at individuals or singling out any
                              group
                              as "morally challenged". But where we can recognize a broad social
                              and
                              intellectual pattern such as the one presented by reductionist
                              rhetoric,
                              we really ought to try to understand what is going on.

                              The lack Jung spoke of was a loss of contents properly belonging to
                              consciousness. Where do we see such a loss more in evidence than in
                              disciplines such as artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and
                              reductionist science in general? Surely if there is any place where
                              we
                              should expect a loss of conscious contents, it is where such contents
                              are
                              commonly denigrated as a matter of principle. The main drift in these
                              fields is to ignore as completely as possible the immediate contents
                              of
                              consciousness, reinterpreting them in terms of what is not conscious.
                              It is hard to imagine a more direct route to the conditions of lack,
                              inferiority, and moral resentment Jung describes. The entire project
                              of
                              these disciplines is to drop things from consciousness.

                              In other words, there is a truth of sorts in the reductionist claims.
                              Or, you could say, there is truth in the plight of the reductionist.
                              At the level of its symptoms the psyche never lies. A kind of
                              practical
                              reductionism really has been occurring as the inevitable result, over
                              time, of theoretical reductionism, and we should not be surprised if
                              it
                              produces pathological results. In a society where the cry echoes
                              from all
                              sides, "You are nothing but a machine", we can rightly ask whether
                              what
                              we are really hearing is "I sense that I am becoming nothing but a
                              machine
                              and, dammit all, I won't tolerate anyone else being more than I am".

                              There is in this symptom, as Jung clarifies it, a paradoxical double
                              aspect: on the one hand, a sense of inferiority, but, on the other
                              hand,
                              a compensating "psychic inflation" through which the ego assumes god-
                              like
                              pretensions. After all, am I, as one of the cognoscenti, not in the
                              omniscient position of knowing the real truth about everyone else,
                              while
                              they remain benighted and self-deluded, ignorant of
                              their "mereness"? We
                              may wonder as well whether this tendency toward inflation helps to
                              explain
                              grandiose visions of our future as a race of cyborgs destined to
                              become
                              masters of the universe.

                              Another consequence of the loss of conscious contents, aside from a
                              sense
                              of inferiority and a compensating ego inflation, is that our
                              conceptual
                              resources for understanding the world are diminished. When we lose
                              awareness of all but the machine-like in ourselves, we also lose the
                              ability to conceive the world as anything but a machine. Those whose
                              intellectual horizons are encompassed by digital machinery tend to
                              see the
                              world computationally, just as their predecessors saw the world in
                              terms
                              of clocks, cameras, steam engines, telegraph lines, and movie
                              projectors.
                              There is security in believing the world is like the things one knows
                              best, and intellectual ease in draping one's well-practiced ideas
                              like a
                              veil over the Great Unknown.

                              Turnabout is Fair Play
                              ----------------------

                              I willingly own up to some mischief here. "Psychologizing the
                              opposition"
                              is a tactic more often abused than productively employed in worthwhile
                              discourse. But I offer two justifications for the tactic, apart from
                              what
                              I take to be the demonstrable plausibility of the foregoing.

                              First, what I have said is no mere academic exercise. The future
                              hangs
                              in the balance of our self-knowledge. When we lose much of ourselves
                              to
                              the subconscious, we become blind to our own motivations. We may also
                              seek external powers to compensate for our loss of internal mastery.
                              And, in fact, what we see in much of science and technology today is
                              precisely a blind drive toward power. The idea of inevitability has
                              widely substituted for the submerged sphere of consciousness where we
                              might have felt called upon to exercise personal responsibility for
                              our
                              own actions.

                              In the second place, Brooks repeatedly psychologizes his intellectual
                              antagonists -- and in the most shameless manner. So I thought a
                              little
                              turnabout would be good medicine. To give one example of what I
                              mean: in
                              1963 Joseph Weizenbaum wrote the program called ELIZA, which he
                              designed
                              to play the role of a psychologist who largely parrots back the
                              responses
                              of the patient. Weizenbaum was shocked at how dead-seriously many
                              people
                              took ELIZA while "conversing" with it. And he was even more shocked
                              to
                              hear psychiatrists speaking highly of the potentials for such therapy.
                              So Weizenbaum wrote,

                              What can the psychiatrist's image of his patient be when he sees
                              himself, as therapist, not as an engaged human being acting as a
                              healer, but as an information processor, following rules, etc.?

                              This is the one and only statement by Weizenbaum that Brooks cites,
                              and he
                              proceeds, without any explanation whatever, to label
                              it "nonsensical" --
                              unless you can call this gratuitous and unsupported bit of
                              psychologizing
                              an explanation:

                              Weizenbaum was fleeing from the notion that humans were no more
                              than
                              machines. He could not bear the thought. So he denied its
                              possibility
                              outright .... [He is] afraid to give up on the specialness of
                              mankind
                              .... It is intellectually too scary. (pp. 167-8)
                              ****************************************************

                              Bradford Comments;

                              Inflation and Reductionism seeks to encapsulate the Human I AM within
                              amazing Rhetoric that unconsciously is shuttled in the soul life
                              between Lucifer and Ahriman. MIT and Cal Tech and countless
                              universities preach the same gospel of Nano technology and the human
                              machine. Nothing is more odious to the development of humanity than
                              the eliminated Christ event. The loss of the vision of the Logos and
                              human Initiation to the paradigm of the progress towards realizing
                              the efficiency of Man as a Machine.

                              It is our task to discern the good intentions of such a publication
                              as Southern Cross Review and understand when Friends of the Michael
                              School battle for the future spiritual development of mankind and
                              Initiation. This initiation leads mankind upwards to the Fission of
                              Love, the amazing Fission that transformed the DNA and Tree of Life
                              to author a Spirit Man body as the higher gift of human development.
                              It matters not that this will unfold in the future.

                              It matters a great deal when we understand that the Science of the
                              Human Spirit is depicted in great detail from the lab notes of "The
                              Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz". It matters a great deal
                              when we look at the detail of how we slowly arrive at stages of
                              development where humans arise with Spirit Self faculties. It matters
                              a great deal that our universities and the self development of
                              humanity know nothing of the upper levels of psychology that will
                              produce higher Initiation in human beings. It matters a great deal
                              that we understand here and now that the workings of Lucifer and
                              Ahriman are the same that Steve Talbott was describing in how the
                              Rhetoric of Science swerves, avoids and stamps out the Science of the
                              Christ event. And Talbott is reluctant to agrue the reality from this
                              perspective. Yet he is touching into the very nerve center of the
                              Luciferic and Ahrimanic regions of soul deception.

                              To understand what Oswarld Spengler predicted and compare what
                              Steiner predicted around for the year 1933 allows us to look into the
                              depth of all that the Michael School and the friends of the Michael
                              School must maintain. Spengler lived through and predicted what has
                              come to pass in the same way that Steiner gave us the rudimental
                              grounding we need to face and maintain consciousness of how the
                              mighty intentions of the Luciferic and Ahrimanic forces intend to
                              achieve their goals. Today in America those mighty geographic centers
                              of Hollywood and Wall street- or Washington D.C. reveal the mystery
                              centers for either inflating the I Am into a visionary hallucination
                              or developing an entire Global machinery that answers to the Might,
                              bribery, deception and economic machinations of Washington D.C. the
                              new Rome. A mighty visionary culture that betrays the Earth and takes
                              orders from Washington is once again clear to diagnose.

                              Spengler makes this prediction and the prediction that he has made is
                              the evidence of the condition of soul life that predominates in 90%
                              of the world since 1933.

                              "...because of facing the limits of our
                              knowledge in the twilight of the scientific age we have to go back to
                              some kind of religion, reminding us of the prediction of almost
                              forgotten German philosopher Spengler who in his book "The Decline of
                              the West" has observed that: "As scientists become more arrogant and
                              less tolerant of other belief systems, notably religious ones,
                              Spengler declared, society will rebel against science and embrace
                              religious fundamentalism and other irrational systems of belief.
                              Spengler predicted that the decline of science and the resurgence of
                              irrationality would began at the end of this millennium"

                              Bradford comments;

                              Creating the Dogma of Materialism- The Biblical dogmas of
                              Fundamentalism - The Dogmas of Hebrew Nationalism - The Dogmas of
                              Islamic Fundamentalism - are the only worn out paradigms and the
                              lovely WMD that Lucifer and Ahriman use to achieve what they failed
                              to Achieve in Rome. Today we are truly at a Michael Threshold again,
                              and as the Native American declared so well - "Today is a good day to
                              be Incarnated with the Knowledge of Spiritual Science and the Michael
                              School." It is the raw courage of the Saturn Folk of the Native
                              Americans that could say, as they were being exterminated, "Today is
                              a good day to die."

                              Bradford
                            • starbirdgarden
                              Some years ago Anne Wood, Head of BBC Childrens Programs discovered a = `gap in television viewing . The dreadful truth was that babies aged six months to=
                              Message 14 of 18 , Jul 12, 2003
                                Some years ago Anne Wood, Head of BBC Childrens Programs discovered a =
                                `gap in
                                television viewing'. The dreadful truth was that babies aged six months to=
                                two years,
                                pre- speech toddlers, had no television program specifically designed for =
                                them!
                                This deprivation could not be allowed to continue, and Anne spent two =
                                years in
                                consultation with Andrew Davenport, graduate in Speech and Language Patholo=
                                gy, (!)
                                and other experts creating the Teletubbies, a program to `educate and stimu=
                                late'
                                young children.
                                The language of television programming is always violent. Programs ar=
                                e aimed, or
                                targeted. This time the target was the potential Christed- etheric forces b=
                                rought to us
                                in children so newly arrived on earth that they are still fragrant with the=
                                scent and
                                sweetness of cosmic milk, so tender that the bloom of Angelic love shines a=
                                ll about
                                them.
                                I recently heard Anne Wood speak proudly of her great achievement. Th=
                                is was no
                                haphazard undertaking, but a major production by the BBC. Very precise
                                brainwashing techniques were and are employed. Psychologists, behaviourists=
                                ,
                                educators consulted. Direct connection with, or knowledge of the occult is=
                                not always
                                necessary to work dark magic. Ahriman has made his methods readily availab=
                                le, and
                                a mind needs only to be ahrimanically resonant to allow him full scope as d=
                                irector,
                                author and producer.
                                Marketing goods -money- in conjunction with changing of consciousness =
                                is a
                                powerful Ahrimanic paradigm. The Teletubby Industry is vast and world wide=
                                , and
                                lately linked financially to junk food companies.
                                The power of entrainment (frequency following response) is very great.=
                                It is
                                experienced below what is audible; affects brain wave patterns and can be
                                incorporated in music – see quote below from "The Science of Binaural Beat=

                                Brainwave Entrainment Technology

                                Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems is a well-understood princ=
                                iple within
                                the physical sciences. If a tuning fork designed to produce a frequency of =
                                440 Hz is
                                struck (causing it to oscillate) and then brought into the vicinity of anot=
                                her 440 Hz
                                tuning fork, the second tuning fork will begin to oscillate. The first tuni=
                                ng fork is said
                                to have entrained the second or caused it to resonate. The physics of entra=
                                inment
                                apply to biosystems as well. Of interest here are the electromagnetic brain=
                                waves. The
                                electrochemical activity of the brain results in the production of electrom=
                                agnetic wave
                                forms which can be objectively measured with sensitive equipment. Brain wav=
                                es
                                change frequencies based on neural activity within the brain. Because neura=
                                l activity
                                is electrochemical, brain function can be modified through the introduction=
                                of specific
                                chemicals (drugs) by altering the brain's electromagnetic environment throu=
                                gh
                                induction, or through resonant entrainment techniques. (Use of sound) End =
                                of
                                quote

                                It is no accident that television News programs usually begin with loud d=
                                ramatic
                                music, accompanied by fast flashing images, which fades to a persistent rep=
                                etitive
                                beat, which in some cases continues as background to the news announcements=
                                .
                                Drumming it in.
                                By the time you hear the news, you are half hypnotised and prepared to=
                                believe it.
                                The first experience of televisual imaging takes some minutes to effect thi=
                                s
                                entrainment process. Every experience after this entrains the brain in ab=
                                out fifteen
                                seconds. The brain is lulled into passive mode, and the discriminating fac=
                                ulty is
                                virtually and deliberately put to sleep.
                                The brain is, of course, not the mind. However, it takes a conscious =
                                effort not to
                                be affected by such powerful electro-magnetic light, sound and image bombar=
                                dment,
                                and few people have such inner resources, or are aware that the technique i=
                                s being
                                used upon them. They are `viewers' waiting to be entertained-entrained-tra=
                                ined. In
                                effect, en-tranced.
                                In young children the situation is far worse. The child is open to su=
                                rroundings in a
                                formative way. He/she is actually creating inner organs, faculties and fut=
                                ure
                                capacities by absorbing, imitating, indrawing the world around him/her.

                                Rudolf Steiner – Education of the Child
                                In the later periods also, growth takes place; but throughout the wh=
                                ole
                                succeeding life, growth is based on the forms which were developed in this =
                                first life-
                                period. If true forms were developed, true forms will grow; if misshapen fo=
                                rms were
                                developed, misshapen forms will grow. We can never repair what we have negl=
                                ected
                                as educators in the first seven years. Just as Nature brings about the righ=
                                t
                                environment for the physical human body before birth, so after birth the ed=
                                ucator
                                must provide for the right physical environment. It is the right physical e=
                                nvironment
                                alone, which works upon the child in such a way that the physical organs sh=
                                ape
                                themselves aright. End quote

                                The Teletubby program employs the usual hypnotic spinning, (windmill i=
                                n this
                                case) musical combination, and repetitive imaging and sound in a parody of =
                                the
                                repetition found in real children's stories, nursery rhymes and songs. The=
                                repetitition
                                which belongs rightfully to childhood, as to the childhood of humanity in =
                                ancient
                                religious texts and sagas, is here used to opposite effect, in that it kill=
                                s, instead of
                                creating living rhythms and processes in the etheric body.
                                A Baby Sorath beams balefully down as the face on a yellow sun, with a s=
                                inister
                                smile, only frowning if a Teletubby moves away from the others, or does an=
                                ything
                                unusual. Only herd behaviour is tolerated by Baby-Beast, or Sun Demon. No =
                                Son-
                                light here.
                                The Teletubbies are four techno-babies, with televisions in their stom=
                                achs;
                                abortions with alien faces reminiscent of the ubiquitous `Greys'. We hear =
                                endless
                                reports of Greys experimenting sexually with so called `abductees' (Succubu=
                                s or
                                succubi) – perhaps Teletubbies are the progeny!
                                Here Lucifer and Ahriman meet in a bizarre world, a green burial mound=
                                -breast
                                beneath a circling sun, a neat grassy environment pervaded by humming tech=
                                nology.
                                These cyborg infants, are cared for by - A VACUUM CLEANER called NO NO.
                                Rudolf Steiner speaks of the incorporation of Ahrimanic Beings in the =
                                vacuum, and
                                of the Ancient World's fear of the vacuum –the horror vacui. This is the =
                                Ahrimanic
                                Double of creative vortex etheric energy. The Doublecross goes on. These
                                changelings of Ahriman are nurtured by his own sub-etheric energies. Babi=
                                es get
                                the shock treatment.
                                The televisions in their stomachs show tiny scenes from human life, re=
                                peated
                                again and again. "I am half sick of shadows! Cried the lady of Shallot" an=
                                d broke the
                                mirror and so the spell and went through Death to the River of Life. These=
                                creatures
                                do not know that they are distorted mirror images, actually in the mirror.=

                                These pallid flickerings of televised scenes, showing children doing v=
                                arious things,
                                are as near to life as these infant-aliens get. Here is a distorted surrou=
                                nding world
                                which a small child absorbs into himself/herself. With what effect remains=
                                to be
                                seen.
                                The Windmill rays out signals, orders, which the Televisions in the =
                                tummies
                                receive. The television in the stomach, the metabolic will forces are subs=
                                ervient to
                                the Wind-Mill. Thy are going through the Mill, being ground down, milled =
                                to dust
                                particles, physical atoms. Ready to be hoovered up.
                                In her book "The Tree of Life and the Holy Grail" Silvia Frank speaks =
                                of the Sampo,
                                the three sided Mill of the Kalevala ( Joksu – please elaborate!) which g=
                                rinds out
                                meal, salt and coins.
                                Sylvia Franke – "This miraculous entity not only grinds substances bu=
                                t also creates
                                them."

                                Further on we are told that the Mill, the Sampo is roofed over by a many c=
                                oloured lid
                                which also revolves. In Finnish it is called Kirokansi. This word signifi=
                                es "The Vault of
                                the Heavens"
                                She goes on to speak of it's connections with Yggdrasil, and the Life Et=
                                her, due to
                                it's proximity to the magnetic Pole. Again we find a parodied opposite. The=
                                Millstone
                                is hung around the child's neck......reminiscent of a certain saying in the=
                                Gospel......
                                As a child I was fascinated by an illustration in Charles Kingsley's=
                                book The Water
                                Babies, in which Mother Carey sat on a rock in the life-ether salted sea sa=
                                ying "I make
                                things make themselves………"
                                But the Teletubby Babies have a hoover for a Mother with a dustbag wo=
                                mb.
                                And a Wind-Mill above, not fertilising, nor breathing heavenly Father force=
                                s - Breath
                                of Life, but instead emitting only dead, electro-magnetic rays, grinding t=
                                hings to
                                grey dust.
                                In Revelations, John is told to eat the book, to digest it, take it i=
                                nto the will. "Take
                                it and eat it up….." What is engendered in the will by digesting TV?
                                The Teletubbies needs are met by hi-tech machines that pop up around t=
                                hem.
                                Pink custard is fed to them – interestingly noise used in entrainment is ca=
                                lled `pink or
                                background sound' - This is what is being fed to children.
                                Teletubby-Toast is also fed: round host like biscuits with the siniste=
                                r smiley face
                                of Ecstacy drug merchandise on them. And of course, the Teletubbies love e=
                                veryone
                                and everything, and are ever happy.
                                As I write I can hear the neighbour's children making Teletubby sounds=
                                . And here
                                we come to the gravest aspect, the perversion and subversion of speech.
                                Dumbing down makes us dumb. Animals have no speech. Speech is not for=
                                the
                                herd, but for individuals sharing, communicating with others what lives and=
                                lights up
                                in them. Teletubbies make grotesque sounds supposedly those of tiny babies.=
                                They
                                speak in truncated eh oh (hello) abbrebriated word-forms.
                                The Aaah of pure wonder, the gentle sounding of the Unstruck Note that=
                                babies
                                breathe upon the air is degraded into hideous babbling. The very sounding =
                                and
                                resounding of the stars is stolen and deformed. Man as Symphony of the Cre=
                                ative
                                Word becomes a parodied techno-pygmy garbling gobbledegook. This attack on=
                                the
                                Logos is an attack upon the Etheric Christ, the New Note sounding in the et=
                                hers.
                                Anne Woods claims that Teletubbies is an educational program, that TE=
                                ACHES
                                CHILDREN TO THINK and makes them imaginative. ?
                                What the effect on these child – viewers will be in later life we do n=
                                ot know. We do
                                know that Rudolf Steiner placed the greatest importance upon the working to=
                                gether
                                of Platonists and Aristotelians around the turn of the century and beyond. =
                                Great hope
                                is invested in the advent of these spirits. As in all such spiritual events=
                                , some few
                                come before to make the connection and prepare the way. We needs must guard=
                                and
                                nurture them.
                                Rudolf Steiner – But what today shines in, as it were, through tiny w=
                                indows must
                                in future become a unity through that connection between the leaders of th=
                                e School
                                of Chartres and the leading spirits of Scholasticism, when that spiritual r=
                                evival, in
                                which intellectualism is lifted to the spirit, sets in at the end of the tw=
                                entieth century.
                                The human beings of the twentieth century must not throw away their opportu=
                                nity to
                                make this happen! End of quote.

                                Children coming into incarnation may have very great forces of transf=
                                ormation, or
                                they may be maimed in soul and unable to take up their tasks. We do not kn=
                                ow.
                                Individuals will vary. But even the destructive forces arrayed against us a=
                                re put into
                                context by The Christian Initiate.

                                Rudolf Steiner 2 Oct 1916 -- For those having spiritual insight into w=
                                orld-
                                evolution, this electrical age is, at the same time, a challenge to seek gr=
                                eater spiritual
                                depth, a genuine spiritual deepening. For, to that force which remains out=
                                wardly
                                unknown to sense observation, there must be added the spiritual forces of t=
                                he soul,
                                lying as deeply hidden as the electrical forces, that also has to be awaken=
                                ed.
                                Think how mysterious electrical power is! It was first drawn out of i=
                                t's secret
                                hiding places by Galvini and Volta. And what dwells in the human soul, what=
                                is
                                explored by Spiritual Science, surely as the electrical force is drawn out,=
                                so surely the
                                force hidden in, and belonging to the soul that is sought by Spiritual Scie=
                                nce, will also
                                be drawn forth. End quote.

                                He also points to the cosmic significance of the discoveries of Galvini =
                                and Volta,
                                saying that they could be made because the Earth, following it's lemniscati=
                                c course
                                THROUGH TIME had come back to the point of intersection where it had last b=
                                een
                                during the Lemurian epoch when "magnetic and electrical forces established =

                                themselves within man."

                                Rudolf Steiner – Man implanted into himself from the cosmos the princi=
                                ple of
                                electricity. There lies the cause of the fact that Galvini discovered ele=
                                ctricity at that
                                particular time. Mankind as a whole, in that moment remembered the breaki=
                                ng in of
                                electricity into the human being and thereupon, as a result of this recolle=
                                ction, man
                                impregnated his whole civilisation with electricity. The soul and spirit i=
                                n man found
                                again what it had once experienced long ago. End quote.

                                Children have already been damaged by cartoon and TV generally, as so =
                                well
                                explicated by Bradford. When my eldest son was small he sometimes watched t=
                                he
                                Daleks at my Mother-in-Law's house, (as we did not have a TV) from a safe h=
                                iding
                                place behind the sofa. He could only bear the odd peep. Maybe ten years l=
                                ater, in a
                                holiday cottage with my second son and a friend, the boys (aged about nine)=
                                watched
                                a fairly innocuous film. When it ended, the friend spoke one memorable sen=
                                tence,
                                summing it up. "Not enough blood." And that was years ago.
                                A very damaging development is the use of humour in conjunction with h=
                                orribly
                                graphic violence, especially in a recent spate of gangster films. The humo=
                                urous
                                situations are spliced with horrific violence, so closely linked that the e=
                                theric body is
                                inflated by laughter and pervious, open to what is delivered next. This te=
                                chnique is
                                known and used by Politicians, who really are stand up comedians, to make =

                                audiences receptive to their message.

                                It is our duty to penetrate every symptomatic event with Spiritual Scientif=
                                ic insight,
                                The Angel says "Fear not!" Whatever comes, we walk sword-ward and offer wh=
                                at we
                                may to Michael,

                                Jan
                              • holderlin66
                                http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs07102003.html It s a familiar story: Robert Johnson traded his soul for the ability to play the guitar like no one else. Dr.
                                Message 15 of 18 , Jul 13, 2003
                                  http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs07102003.html

                                  "It's a familiar story: Robert Johnson traded his soul for the
                                  ability to play the guitar like no one else. Dr. Faustus traded his
                                  for the ability to effect cures and other medicinal wonders. In
                                  modern western society, it is the citizens and their governments who
                                  sell themselves (and their souls) to oil and the military. Nowhere is
                                  this Faustian deal more complete and pervasive than here in the
                                  United States. "

                                  http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates79.html

                                  Bradford comments;

                                  Aside from the quibblings and fine print of the Intellectual Soul in
                                  the wranglings of world Politics the foundation of insights must
                                  remain that as in Rome and Greece as Steiner has indicated, along
                                  with Genghis Khan - a massive Luciferic and Ahrimanic agenda is now
                                  flying behind the American Shadow.

                                  "Can'tyou guessmy name" is such an intensely interesting leap out of
                                  the Intellectual soul. People sense that something is going on but
                                  cannot yet put their thinking behind it. Thanks Danny. Sometimes I
                                  wonder, like in the old World War II writings, if one day, the
                                  battles and efforts we made to be clear here will not also be
                                  remembered and maybe it is even better, the living thinking of
                                  thousands over the globe is touching, and holding onto small
                                  fragments of the Michael Time Spirit INtentions. These Rain down into
                                  the heads and souls of men in a way we cannot even imagine.

                                  Starbirgarden talked about the arising of Electricity and Volta as a
                                  memory of the Atlantean times. How to hold fast to a streaming in
                                  this electric medium that serves the research and thought flow, as
                                  inner content, as inner substance that only resembles in the flow of
                                  the electric medium the substance of true spiritual activity.
                                  Starbirgardens recalling of Dr. Steiner said about Electricity
                                  reveals a great deal of what we are surrounded with and what youth
                                  are surrounded with. TeleTubbies indeed. False Sorathian use of what
                                  a child comes to learn from the tall halfling Angels, called parents,
                                  called adults is falsified for false speech, computer speech that
                                  responds without inflection, gesture, warmth, liquid milk of the word
                                  that flows as much to the child's soul, as it grows as breast milk
                                  did from mother's living heart forces.

                                  Electricity can make the nervers a bickering battle ground. In fact,
                                  one finds that most people who use the internet within the electrical
                                  medium fall into the trap of feeling the surge of electrical and
                                  thought energy as a kind of aggression against someone or something.
                                  Much that is happening currently on this list is not of that nature.
                                  Much of the rich in depth research has drawn wonderful rich souls out
                                  of the world to communicate with each other. It also, by the very
                                  substance of the research and the attitude of various participants,
                                  allowed for such ideas shared to shrivel aspects of false soul vision
                                  and ask them to retreat.

                                  It is the same as being able to name Ahriman's activity or facing
                                  Reincarnation and Karma.. as in the Mystery Dramas, once you name the
                                  soul force that is swirling around individuals or a country, the
                                  Ahrimanic forces feel these insights as burning. That is why Vision
                                  and the Goethean Impulse is more potent journalism than journalism.
                                  To send streams of living thinking, naming the right symptoms with
                                  the right beings and including the Christ event and Christian
                                  Rosenkreutz and vast, mature insights, like those that Starbirgarden,
                                  Joksu, Bruce... and so many others produce.. All the activity of the
                                  School of Michael to be just that, a stream of thinking that is
                                  transformed, rising in the hearts and Rains down on many heads in
                                  various places and allows them to slightly awaken and ask questions.

                                  What are the real dynamics of the Michael School? Does it not cross
                                  the Threshold and is it not offered up as our best vision as students
                                  of Spiritual Science, and does not Michael take that which human
                                  effort has sanctioned and deliver this new water sprinkle of gold
                                  into thousands of heads we know not of? I think so.

                                  Bradford
                                • joksu57
                                  Hello Jan! Thanks for your fine analysis. I have not realises all those details and stategies behind the Teletubbies. My own sons were too old , when the
                                  Message 16 of 18 , Jul 13, 2003
                                    Hello Jan!

                                    Thanks for your fine analysis. I have not realises all those
                                    details and "stategies" behind the Teletubbies. My own sons
                                    were "too old", when the teletubbies began. And they didn't watch
                                    much TV, when they were under seven years.

                                    About the Sampo, the three sided Mill of the Kalevala: This is quite
                                    large and interesting topic. I will write later some points about
                                    the Sampo.(A little warning: I easily get carried away
                                    to "sidetopics", but that's no news to this forum!)

                                    When Parsifal opera was performed in my home town, an
                                    anthroposophist and opera enthusiastic wrote an introduction to the
                                    boklet, which explained the backgrounds of Grail and Parsifal. (The
                                    booklet was sold in the opera along the libretto.) In one sentence
                                    there was something like this: "Grail can also be seen as a mill,
                                    and then it has according to Wolfram vo Eschenbach, roots in the
                                    same way as the Sampo has."

                                    Warm Regards
                                    Joksu


                                    --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "starbirdgarden"
                                    <starbirdgarden@b...> wrote:
                                    > Some years ago Anne Wood, Head of BBC Childrens Programs
                                    discovered a =
                                    > `gap in
                                    > television viewing'. The dreadful truth was that babies aged six
                                    months to=
                                    > two years,
                                    > pre- speech toddlers, had no television program specifically
                                    designed for =
                                    > them!
                                    > This deprivation could not be allowed to continue, and Anne
                                    spent two =
                                    > years in
                                    > consultation with Andrew Davenport, graduate in Speech and
                                    Language Patholo=
                                    > gy, (!)
                                    > and other experts creating the Teletubbies, a program to `educate
                                    and stimu=
                                    > late'
                                    > young children.
                                    > The language of television programming is always violent.
                                    Programs ar=
                                    > e aimed, or
                                    > targeted. This time the target was the potential Christed- etheric
                                    forces b=
                                    > rought to us
                                    > in children so newly arrived on earth that they are still fragrant
                                    with the=
                                    > scent and
                                    > sweetness of cosmic milk, so tender that the bloom of Angelic love
                                    shines a=
                                    > ll about
                                    > them.
                                    > I recently heard Anne Wood speak proudly of her great
                                    achievement. Th=
                                    > is was no
                                    > haphazard undertaking, but a major production by the BBC. Very
                                    precise
                                    > brainwashing techniques were and are employed. Psychologists,
                                    behaviourists=
                                    > ,
                                    > educators consulted. Direct connection with, or knowledge of the
                                    occult is=
                                    > not always
                                    > necessary to work dark magic. Ahriman has made his methods
                                    readily availab=
                                    > le, and
                                    > a mind needs only to be ahrimanically resonant to allow him full
                                    scope as d=
                                    > irector,
                                    > author and producer.
                                    > Marketing goods -money- in conjunction with changing of
                                    consciousness =
                                    > is a
                                    > powerful Ahrimanic paradigm. The Teletubby Industry is vast and
                                    world wide=
                                    > , and
                                    > lately linked financially to junk food companies.
                                    > The power of entrainment (frequency following response) is
                                    very great.=
                                    > It is
                                    > experienced below what is audible; affects brain wave patterns and
                                    can be
                                    > incorporated in music – see quote below from "The Science of
                                    Binaural Beat=
                                    >
                                    > Brainwave Entrainment Technology
                                    >
                                    > Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems is a well-
                                    understood princ=
                                    > iple within
                                    > the physical sciences. If a tuning fork designed to produce a
                                    frequency of =
                                    > 440 Hz is
                                    > struck (causing it to oscillate) and then brought into the
                                    vicinity of anot=
                                    > her 440 Hz
                                    > tuning fork, the second tuning fork will begin to oscillate. The
                                    first tuni=
                                    > ng fork is said
                                    > to have entrained the second or caused it to resonate. The physics
                                    of entra=
                                    > inment
                                    > apply to biosystems as well. Of interest here are the
                                    electromagnetic brain=
                                    > waves. The
                                    > electrochemical activity of the brain results in the production of
                                    electrom=
                                    > agnetic wave
                                    > forms which can be objectively measured with sensitive equipment.
                                    Brain wav=
                                    > es
                                    > change frequencies based on neural activity within the brain.
                                    Because neura=
                                    > l activity
                                    > is electrochemical, brain function can be modified through the
                                    introduction=
                                    > of specific
                                    > chemicals (drugs) by altering the brain's electromagnetic
                                    environment throu=
                                    > gh
                                    > induction, or through resonant entrainment techniques. (Use of
                                    sound) End =
                                    > of
                                    > quote
                                    >
                                    > It is no accident that television News programs usually begin
                                    with loud d=
                                    > ramatic
                                    > music, accompanied by fast flashing images, which fades to a
                                    persistent rep=
                                    > etitive
                                    > beat, which in some cases continues as background to the news
                                    announcements=
                                    > .
                                    > Drumming it in.
                                    > By the time you hear the news, you are half hypnotised and
                                    prepared to=
                                    > believe it.
                                    > The first experience of televisual imaging takes some minutes to
                                    effect thi=
                                    > s
                                    > entrainment process. Every experience after this entrains the
                                    brain in ab=
                                    > out fifteen
                                    > seconds. The brain is lulled into passive mode, and the
                                    discriminating fac=
                                    > ulty is
                                    > virtually and deliberately put to sleep.
                                    > The brain is, of course, not the mind. However, it takes a
                                    conscious =
                                    > effort not to
                                    > be affected by such powerful electro-magnetic light, sound and
                                    image bombar=
                                    > dment,
                                    > and few people have such inner resources, or are aware that the
                                    technique i=
                                    > s being
                                    > used upon them. They are `viewers' waiting to be entertained-
                                    entrained-tra=
                                    > ined. In
                                    > effect, en-tranced.
                                    > In young children the situation is far worse. The child is
                                    open to su=
                                    > rroundings in a
                                    > formative way. He/she is actually creating inner organs,
                                    faculties and fut=
                                    > ure
                                    > capacities by absorbing, imitating, indrawing the world around
                                    him/her.
                                    >
                                    > Rudolf Steiner – Education of the Child
                                    > In the later periods also, growth takes place; but
                                    throughout the wh=
                                    > ole
                                    > succeeding life, growth is based on the forms which were developed
                                    in this =
                                    > first life-
                                    > period. If true forms were developed, true forms will grow; if
                                    misshapen fo=
                                    > rms were
                                    > developed, misshapen forms will grow. We can never repair what we
                                    have negl=
                                    > ected
                                    > as educators in the first seven years. Just as Nature brings about
                                    the righ=
                                    > t
                                    > environment for the physical human body before birth, so after
                                    birth the ed=
                                    > ucator
                                    > must provide for the right physical environment. It is the right
                                    physical e=
                                    > nvironment
                                    > alone, which works upon the child in such a way that the physical
                                    organs sh=
                                    > ape
                                    > themselves aright. End quote
                                    >
                                    > The Teletubby program employs the usual hypnotic spinning,
                                    (windmill i=
                                    > n this
                                    > case) musical combination, and repetitive imaging and sound in a
                                    parody of =
                                    > the
                                    > repetition found in real children's stories, nursery rhymes and
                                    songs. The=
                                    > repetitition
                                    > which belongs rightfully to childhood, as to the childhood of
                                    humanity in =
                                    > ancient
                                    > religious texts and sagas, is here used to opposite effect, in
                                    that it kill=
                                    > s, instead of
                                    > creating living rhythms and processes in the etheric body.
                                    > A Baby Sorath beams balefully down as the face on a yellow sun,
                                    with a s=
                                    > inister
                                    > smile, only frowning if a Teletubby moves away from the others,
                                    or does an=
                                    > ything
                                    > unusual. Only herd behaviour is tolerated by Baby-Beast, or Sun
                                    Demon. No =
                                    > Son-
                                    > light here.
                                    > The Teletubbies are four techno-babies, with televisions in
                                    their stom=
                                    > achs;
                                    > abortions with alien faces reminiscent of the ubiquitous `Greys'.
                                    We hear =
                                    > endless
                                    > reports of Greys experimenting sexually with so called `abductees'
                                    (Succubu=
                                    > s or
                                    > succubi) – perhaps Teletubbies are the progeny!
                                    > Here Lucifer and Ahriman meet in a bizarre world, a green
                                    burial mound=
                                    > -breast
                                    > beneath a circling sun, a neat grassy environment pervaded by
                                    humming tech=
                                    > nology.
                                    > These cyborg infants, are cared for by - A VACUUM CLEANER called
                                    NO NO.
                                    > Rudolf Steiner speaks of the incorporation of Ahrimanic
                                    Beings in the =
                                    > vacuum, and
                                    > of the Ancient World's fear of the vacuum –the horror vacui.
                                    This is the =
                                    > Ahrimanic
                                    > Double of creative vortex etheric energy. The Doublecross goes
                                    on. These
                                    > changelings of Ahriman are nurtured by his own sub-etheric
                                    energies. Babi=
                                    > es get
                                    > the shock treatment.
                                    > The televisions in their stomachs show tiny scenes from human
                                    life, re=
                                    > peated
                                    > again and again. "I am half sick of shadows! Cried the lady of
                                    Shallot" an=
                                    > d broke the
                                    > mirror and so the spell and went through Death to the River of
                                    Life. These=
                                    > creatures
                                    > do not know that they are distorted mirror images, actually in
                                    the mirror.=
                                    >
                                    > These pallid flickerings of televised scenes, showing
                                    children doing v=
                                    > arious things,
                                    > are as near to life as these infant-aliens get. Here is a
                                    distorted surrou=
                                    > nding world
                                    > which a small child absorbs into himself/herself. With what
                                    effect remains=
                                    > to be
                                    > seen.
                                    > The Windmill rays out signals, orders, which the
                                    Televisions in the =
                                    > tummies
                                    > receive. The television in the stomach, the metabolic will forces
                                    are subs=
                                    > ervient to
                                    > the Wind-Mill. Thy are going through the Mill, being ground
                                    down, milled =
                                    > to dust
                                    > particles, physical atoms. Ready to be hoovered up.
                                    > In her book "The Tree of Life and the Holy Grail" Silvia
                                    Frank speaks =
                                    > of the Sampo,
                                    > the three sided Mill of the Kalevala ( Joksu – please
                                    elaborate!) which g=
                                    > rinds out
                                    > meal, salt and coins.
                                    > Sylvia Franke – "This miraculous entity not only grinds
                                    substances bu=
                                    > t also creates
                                    > them."
                                    >
                                    > Further on we are told that the Mill, the Sampo is roofed over by
                                    a many c=
                                    > oloured lid
                                    > which also revolves. In Finnish it is called Kirokansi. This
                                    word signifi=
                                    > es "The Vault of
                                    > the Heavens"
                                    > She goes on to speak of it's connections with Yggdrasil, and
                                    the Life Et=
                                    > her, due to
                                    > it's proximity to the magnetic Pole. Again we find a parodied
                                    opposite. The=
                                    > Millstone
                                    > is hung around the child's neck......reminiscent of a certain
                                    saying in the=
                                    > Gospel......
                                    > As a child I was fascinated by an illustration in Charles
                                    Kingsley's=
                                    > book The Water
                                    > Babies, in which Mother Carey sat on a rock in the life-ether
                                    salted sea sa=
                                    > ying "I make
                                    > things make themselves………"
                                    > But the Teletubby Babies have a hoover for a Mother with a
                                    dustbag wo=
                                    > mb.
                                    > And a Wind-Mill above, not fertilising, nor breathing heavenly
                                    Father force=
                                    > s - Breath
                                    > of Life, but instead emitting only dead, electro-magnetic rays,
                                    grinding t=
                                    > hings to
                                    > grey dust.
                                    > In Revelations, John is told to eat the book, to digest it,
                                    take it i=
                                    > nto the will. "Take
                                    > it and eat it up….." What is engendered in the will by digesting
                                    TV?
                                    > The Teletubbies needs are met by hi-tech machines that pop up
                                    around t=
                                    > hem.
                                    > Pink custard is fed to them – interestingly noise used in
                                    entrainment is ca=
                                    > lled `pink or
                                    > background sound' - This is what is being fed to children.
                                    > Teletubby-Toast is also fed: round host like biscuits with
                                    the siniste=
                                    > r smiley face
                                    > of Ecstacy drug merchandise on them. And of course, the
                                    Teletubbies love e=
                                    > veryone
                                    > and everything, and are ever happy.
                                    > As I write I can hear the neighbour's children making
                                    Teletubby sounds=
                                    > . And here
                                    > we come to the gravest aspect, the perversion and subversion of
                                    speech.
                                    > Dumbing down makes us dumb. Animals have no speech. Speech
                                    is not for=
                                    > the
                                    > herd, but for individuals sharing, communicating with others what
                                    lives and=
                                    > lights up
                                    > in them. Teletubbies make grotesque sounds supposedly those of
                                    tiny babies.=
                                    > They
                                    > speak in truncated eh oh (hello) abbrebriated word-forms.
                                    > The Aaah of pure wonder, the gentle sounding of the Unstruck
                                    Note that=
                                    > babies
                                    > breathe upon the air is degraded into hideous babbling. The very
                                    sounding =
                                    > and
                                    > resounding of the stars is stolen and deformed. Man as Symphony
                                    of the Cre=
                                    > ative
                                    > Word becomes a parodied techno-pygmy garbling gobbledegook. This
                                    attack on=
                                    > the
                                    > Logos is an attack upon the Etheric Christ, the New Note sounding
                                    in the et=
                                    > hers.
                                    > Anne Woods claims that Teletubbies is an educational
                                    program, that TE=
                                    > ACHES
                                    > CHILDREN TO THINK and makes them imaginative. ?
                                    > What the effect on these child – viewers will be in later
                                    life we do n=
                                    > ot know. We do
                                    > know that Rudolf Steiner placed the greatest importance upon the
                                    working to=
                                    > gether
                                    > of Platonists and Aristotelians around the turn of the century and
                                    beyond. =
                                    > Great hope
                                    > is invested in the advent of these spirits. As in all such
                                    spiritual events=
                                    > , some few
                                    > come before to make the connection and prepare the way. We needs
                                    must guard=
                                    > and
                                    > nurture them.
                                    > Rudolf Steiner – But what today shines in, as it were,
                                    through tiny w=
                                    > indows must
                                    > in future become a unity through that connection between the
                                    leaders of th=
                                    > e School
                                    > of Chartres and the leading spirits of Scholasticism, when that
                                    spiritual r=
                                    > evival, in
                                    > which intellectualism is lifted to the spirit, sets in at the end
                                    of the tw=
                                    > entieth century.
                                    > The human beings of the twentieth century must not throw away
                                    their opportu=
                                    > nity to
                                    > make this happen! End of quote.
                                    >
                                    > Children coming into incarnation may have very great forces
                                    of transf=
                                    > ormation, or
                                    > they may be maimed in soul and unable to take up their tasks. We
                                    do not kn=
                                    > ow.
                                    > Individuals will vary. But even the destructive forces arrayed
                                    against us a=
                                    > re put into
                                    > context by The Christian Initiate.
                                    >
                                    > Rudolf Steiner 2 Oct 1916 -- For those having spiritual
                                    insight into w=
                                    > orld-
                                    > evolution, this electrical age is, at the same time, a challenge
                                    to seek gr=
                                    > eater spiritual
                                    > depth, a genuine spiritual deepening. For, to that force which
                                    remains out=
                                    > wardly
                                    > unknown to sense observation, there must be added the spiritual
                                    forces of t=
                                    > he soul,
                                    > lying as deeply hidden as the electrical forces, that also has to
                                    be awaken=
                                    > ed.
                                    > Think how mysterious electrical power is! It was first drawn
                                    out of i=
                                    > t's secret
                                    > hiding places by Galvini and Volta. And what dwells in the human
                                    soul, what=
                                    > is
                                    > explored by Spiritual Science, surely as the electrical force is
                                    drawn out,=
                                    > so surely the
                                    > force hidden in, and belonging to the soul that is sought by
                                    Spiritual Scie=
                                    > nce, will also
                                    > be drawn forth. End quote.
                                    >
                                    > He also points to the cosmic significance of the discoveries of
                                    Galvini =
                                    > and Volta,
                                    > saying that they could be made because the Earth, following it's
                                    lemniscati=
                                    > c course
                                    > THROUGH TIME had come back to the point of intersection where it
                                    had last b=
                                    > een
                                    > during the Lemurian epoch when "magnetic and electrical forces
                                    established =
                                    >
                                    > themselves within man."
                                    >
                                    > Rudolf Steiner – Man implanted into himself from the cosmos
                                    the princi=
                                    > ple of
                                    > electricity. There lies the cause of the fact that Galvini
                                    discovered ele=
                                    > ctricity at that
                                    > particular time. Mankind as a whole, in that moment remembered
                                    the breaki=
                                    > ng in of
                                    > electricity into the human being and thereupon, as a result of
                                    this recolle=
                                    > ction, man
                                    > impregnated his whole civilisation with electricity. The soul and
                                    spirit i=
                                    > n man found
                                    > again what it had once experienced long ago. End quote.
                                    >
                                    > Children have already been damaged by cartoon and TV
                                    generally, as so =
                                    > well
                                    > explicated by Bradford. When my eldest son was small he sometimes
                                    watched t=
                                    > he
                                    > Daleks at my Mother-in-Law's house, (as we did not have a TV) from
                                    a safe h=
                                    > iding
                                    > place behind the sofa. He could only bear the odd peep. Maybe
                                    ten years l=
                                    > ater, in a
                                    > holiday cottage with my second son and a friend, the boys (aged
                                    about nine)=
                                    > watched
                                    > a fairly innocuous film. When it ended, the friend spoke one
                                    memorable sen=
                                    > tence,
                                    > summing it up. "Not enough blood." And that was years ago.
                                    > A very damaging development is the use of humour in
                                    conjunction with h=
                                    > orribly
                                    > graphic violence, especially in a recent spate of gangster films.
                                    The humo=
                                    > urous
                                    > situations are spliced with horrific violence, so closely linked
                                    that the e=
                                    > theric body is
                                    > inflated by laughter and pervious, open to what is delivered
                                    next. This te=
                                    > chnique is
                                    > known and used by Politicians, who really are stand up comedians,
                                    to make =
                                    >
                                    > audiences receptive to their message.
                                    >
                                    > It is our duty to penetrate every symptomatic event with Spiritual
                                    Scientif=
                                    > ic insight,
                                    > The Angel says "Fear not!" Whatever comes, we walk sword-ward and
                                    offer wh=
                                    > at we
                                    > may to Michael,
                                    >
                                    > Jan
                                  • holderlin66
                                    Examples of Michael Rain http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs07102003.html The above location gave an opening hint of imaginations that have to do with Faust and
                                    Message 17 of 18 , Jul 14, 2003
                                      Examples of Michael Rain

                                      http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs07102003.html

                                      The above location gave an opening hint of imaginations that have to
                                      do with Faust and temptations to sell our soul, sell the world, sell
                                      ecology and sell humanity for fun and profit. These ideas are still
                                      richly if not humorously compared in culture and as students of
                                      Spiritual Science we need to understand that what you pick-up and
                                      study as Spiritual Science is not so obscure, is not distant, it is
                                      the clear background of great classic and gigantic human Imaginations
                                      that are floating below the surface of human consciousness.

                                      The Intellectual Soul paradigm we live in does not always use these
                                      giant Classic Imaginations so one doesn't always understand that
                                      Spiritual Science runs on a deep and current and rich vein of true
                                      thinking. Thinking that shapes cosmic and human insights. But we can
                                      easly be disappointed with the insights and fragments that thinking
                                      grasps at, because they appear not to have enough if any resonating
                                      depth.

                                      Yet, we find ourselves, as students of Spiritual Science appearing as
                                      if we were the ones who are obscure and that nobody could understand
                                      us. The Gods see the whole thing differently. Everything that Steiner
                                      gave, the Gods can understand, it is human thinking that remains
                                      stubborn, knotted and obscure.

                                      Steve Talbott and his hesitant approach to the thinking of Inflation
                                      and Reductionism is exactly what is Goethean and advanced out of
                                      Spiritual Science. It was not the least bit obscure or unfair to
                                      understand the psychology of what people are thinking and why. We
                                      need to know that we are really thinking in the true stream of
                                      Intelligence when we can translate science, religious and artistic
                                      observations of culture into what is really meant...and not merely
                                      the fragments that attempt to half-heartedly shape some obsure
                                      thought. Why shouldn't our human thinking translate their intentions
                                      so that the Gods can live in their thinking instead of distorted
                                      fragments?

                                      If we do this labor we restore living flows of thought between heaven
                                      and earth. We take semi-obscure ideas and connect it to the flow of
                                      real ideas and act as a social support to others who are striving.
                                      That may not understand us, but we must be able to understand what
                                      they mean.

                                      http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates79.html

                                      The above location reveals, for those who have no idea what I am
                                      talking about, a complete outline of the Agenda portrayed as Lucifer
                                      and connected to the song made by Mick Jagger and company in 1968
                                      called Sympathy for the Devil. Now this amounts to really
                                      understanding what the writer is connecting even though he might not
                                      even know what he is really saying. Yet, those with the finely tuned
                                      Intellectual Soul say these things well and can outline the agenda of
                                      Beings even if they refuse or cannot take these Beings seriously.

                                      The writer of the above article is connecting a feeling that
                                      something strange that has to do with a Faust kind of cosmic Being
                                      that has been alive since before Christ and even was involved with
                                      Christ in the Temptations of the desert and the killing of the Knight
                                      Templars etc.. This mighty classic vision we understand as the
                                      workings of mighty cosmic forces in the Human Soul of concrete
                                      indications of Luciferic and Ahrimanic Beings cannot fully be
                                      fathomed except by taking a poet, well known song, accepted, not
                                      really obscure, except that Jagger's lyrics and song was profound.
                                      That is all that they really understand, except that the intellect is
                                      rich with concrete Agendas that allow us in the Michael School to see
                                      even more clearly.

                                      Once again, little details like Jagger, Sympathy for the Devil and
                                      the name "can'tyouguessmyname" is a code to allow culture to connect
                                      to a vast background Imagination. It may even be an attempt to awaken
                                      the juice that lived in those of us who have lived through the
                                      sixties the 1960's and who have forgotten the great ideals that moved
                                      us at the time. If you are young, or new to Spiritual Science or have
                                      imagined that Anthros must deny the culture they live in..or have
                                      never bothered to grasp the lyrics in Sympathy for the Devil, it is
                                      time for you to do so and then see the connections we have been
                                      making to Luciferic and Ahrimanic Agendas along the lines Steiner
                                      indicated. Perhaps you are new and not understanding the wide role of
                                      observations that make up the foundations of the Michael School.

                                      http://www.lewrockwell.com/wallace/wallace134.html

                                      The location above locates and gives indications of what has been
                                      discussed regarding the transformation of Mars through the efforts of
                                      Buddha and St. Francis. David Spangler (not to be confused with
                                      Oswald Spengler) gave the most important insights into American
                                      SuperPower Initation, which we have been tracking on this site, via
                                      the experience of Mars. David Spangler is an important spirit we need
                                      to watch. He is thinking with the Time Spirit. The above article
                                      raises again the spectre of Mars, but it is fragmented, it doesn't
                                      have the depth and understanding we have gained from our research
                                      here. It doesn't come near the depth that David Spangler gave. The
                                      problem with development is that you must be able to measure
                                      different depths and celebrate both the Intellectual Soul and
                                      insights that lead to Spirit Self, Life Spirit and Spirit Man.

                                      Here in the Mars research we understand that in the development from
                                      ATlantis, electricity, Volta, nerve and brain activity developed out
                                      of Atlantis and the the strengthening of the blood bound human being,
                                      up to the Christ Event- was dominated by Mars forces. War Forces, and
                                      lower Ego forces. Mars will come the closest it has been to Earth in
                                      70,000 years by August of this year. This has stirred every inner
                                      aspect of War and themes that tend to Iraq and the U.N. and forced us
                                      to think out the difference between the current American Initation as
                                      a SuperPower, compared to the image of the new Mercurial invested
                                      humanity that is inspired by the transformation that took place on
                                      Mars or in the Mars Devachan in 1604.

                                      Our in depth penetration into Mars revealed that Jesus had indeed
                                      been interwoven with Buddha and Zarathustra. That a pupil of Buddha,
                                      long ago, became St. Francis and experienced an accelerated
                                      Initiation to join Buddha as he transformed the Mars forces of the
                                      human soul. This led us to the understanding of Non-violent protest
                                      and a great deal of research on Mars and Buddha as the much
                                      misunderstood transition of Mars evolution in Earth history to
                                      Mercury evoltuion in Earth history is really what we are considering
                                      now as a massive cultural paradigm.

                                      Now all three of these tiny fragmented indications as well as all
                                      that Steve Talbott does on his NetFuture reveals the depth of
                                      Steiner's research and the high confidence you can have in
                                      understanding how the depth of human thinking connects itself into
                                      the firm foundations that are the core of Spiritual Science and the
                                      Michael School. Otherwise you may imagine that Spiritual Science is
                                      off track. It is not. It is the fragmented thinking of humanity
                                      everywhere that needs to find a depth which they are afraid to find,
                                      for they imagine that learning about Spiritual Science will make you
                                      obscure and not be well loved by those who are bound to think
                                      fragments and illusions and unable to hold onto the threads of the
                                      great Classical substance of both Angels and Humanity. Until one gets
                                      ones footing, it so appears and our job is to make sure that daily
                                      and profound thinking efforts are connected to the rich sources and
                                      well springs of the human spirit.

                                      Bradford
                                    • holderlin66
                                      Starbirgarden wrote; The way forward for the elementals bewitched in matter, spellbound in nature and now sub-nature, is through the Human Being. And if that
                                      Message 18 of 18 , Sep 1, 2003
                                        Starbirgarden wrote;

                                        "The way forward for the elementals bewitched in matter, spellbound
                                        in
                                        nature and now sub-nature, is through the Human Being. And if that
                                        Portal to
                                        the future is closed to them, then as Steiner warned, 'the elemental
                                        beings
                                        will
                                        host under Ahriman'. They will be forced into the sub-ethers, which
                                        is how
                                        Tolkein's elves are tortured, becoming Orcs. "

                                        Bradford comments;

                                        A Waldorf parent where I taught, brought her fifth grader over to the
                                        house to view Tolkien's "Two Towers". I always enjoy the ride. But
                                        recently someone wrote to me and asked about Rawlings and the Harry
                                        Potter craze. I commented that both "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry
                                        Potter" is a craving hunger left over from a mere two hundred years
                                        ago, when peasant wisdom, and Grimm's Fairy Tales was woven with
                                        ancient mighty Rosicrucian Folk Wisdom.

                                        In other words, the ancient Folk Wisdom, from "Fairy Tale, A True
                                        Story" and Walt Disney, has been removed from doctors who knew about
                                        plants and old wives tales that are laced with wisdom, have all been
                                        removed and replaced by other concepts. In this hunger gap, the
                                        ancient understandings of how Elemental Beings integrated into our
                                        lives has been hijacked and waves upon waves of youth are hungering
                                        for the missing factor of just how matter and the elemental worlds
                                        are truly still part of the magic of Mankind.

                                        I watched again, how Gandalf descended with a mighty Earth core Fire
                                        Spirit, Barlog, and by going down to the center of the destructive
                                        core of the Earth, where the Ego conquers the destructive Fire Core
                                        of Immortality, Gandalf arose with an indication of 9 Levels of the
                                        Inner Earth, mystery of Resurrection... This can be seen in the
                                        Initiaton of Gandalf and confirmed by Spiritual Science and Earth
                                        Core mysteries.

                                        But for adults, we need to review the validity of one of our Michael
                                        School Researchers, who poses some curious questions about the
                                        infection of Materialistic Science and infection and battle for the
                                        elemental servants who could be enlisted to serve mankind.
                                        Starbirgarden and others might know more about this than I, even
                                        though I have never supported UFO diversions... What I have interest
                                        in is how certain forces have been turned into their ugly opposite,
                                        as in the example that the Elves were tortured to become Orcs. This
                                        is very, very alive and interesting if you compare the notes of
                                        Niclaas de Jong.

                                        http://www.bruisvat.nl/english/ufo2.htm

                                        "...they are not the extra-terrestrials or the outer cosmic-beings
                                        like they wants us to believe and pretend to be (they might have a
                                        connection with this or that star, but everything on earth has that,
                                        so that's nothing to worship them for). They are elemental beings
                                        (gnomes, nimphs, elves, fairy beings) which are condensed too far,
                                        aware of their own implosion and therefore eagerly looking for
                                        compensation through the life- and organ forces of humans. For their
                                        inward nourishment they try to serve themselves with the qualities of
                                        our souls, because they themselves have hardly developed those (these
                                        developed qualities also stand for portals to spiritual knowledge);
                                        therefore also e.g. their sclerotic insectoid appearance. Their
                                        ultimate goal is to create their own dominion, a planet, built up of
                                        our forces. Partly we ourselves are the cause they have turned away
                                        from us and started to emancipate. Out of fear for the whimsical
                                        tendency of nature we have become directed towards ourselves and use
                                        (d) the thoughts of Nature (i.e. are elemental beings) in our
                                        abstract materialistic techniques, causing these elemental beings to
                                        fall out of the Cosmic Order and the ascending evolution. This
                                        (still) gives them a high intelligence, plus a certain degree of free
                                        will, but it also causes them to become cold and bitter. Their being
                                        is composed of a soul-body through which they have awareness and an
                                        Etheric-Life body of formative forces through which they can act. But
                                        through the above described developments they do not use their soul-
                                        body (which basically is composed of the forces of sympathy and
                                        antipathy generating colors as gradations of feelings) in the Light-
                                        ether any more as feeling, but as propulsion by means of light. Every
                                        time when their vehicles propulsion starts to work it generates
                                        phenomena of light, which means they have developed astral (viz.
                                        soul) techniques.

                                        They also have cognition about the secrets of metal, as is
                                        demonstrated when parts of their suits or vehicles are crumpled up
                                        and they subsequently jump back into their original form; this
                                        indicates a knowledge of the formative forces of the Etheric-Life
                                        World, which we haven't yet or hardly been able to master ourselves
                                        (3).

                                        These beings cannot be seen as pure evil, but they have to do with
                                        ourselves. They have become pieces of knocked loose technique with
                                        their own intelligence and a resolvedness of direction. They seem to
                                        lack a soul and initially resist and oppose us. Their focus is on
                                        attempting to condense themselves more and more in a physical form
                                        out of our Etheric-Life forces, whereby their relative freedom and
                                        own will is used and directed by higher spirits who work behind them
                                        (4). Thus, we will have to start something with them, will they be
                                        able to fit in the whole purpose of Earth-development. This means
                                        we'll have to connect with them in a more conscious manner and try to
                                        come to cooperation (again), through which we can point them out to
                                        something more worthwhile than a struck loose planet of their own. By
                                        doing so we eventually can help to create out of them the germs for
                                        new human beings, with whom we ourselves are able to instigate and
                                        guide a new Cosmic development (5). This would take place on the
                                        stage of the Vulcan-Earth (6). If they are really willing to go for a
                                        soul development and will try to condense therein the Spiritual Self
                                        (the I), they will be able to form the consciousness of these human
                                        seeds, which will be the basis of later higher spiritual faculties.
                                        If this will not work, viz. they will only want to make a planet of
                                        their own, then they will really harden and become rigid, and will
                                        thus drag along a part of humanity which is incapable of overcoming
                                        that/them(7).

                                        Out of this point of view I now want to go deeper into their being.
                                        Roughly the next 4 categories have been observed and described (and
                                        as it is hardly possible to see them physically, seen they appear in
                                        a twilight zone of sleeping and waking, you may safely say the
                                        observations are coloured by the souls of the ones who observe them;
                                        their features are moreover characterizations than complete
                                        observations): the small and tall greys, the lizards or reptilians,
                                        the beings from Mars and the praying mantis (locust) (8) . With these
                                        four there is a connection with four basic forces, viz. electricity,
                                        (electro-)magnetism, gravity and the nuclear forces (VanderWaals-
                                        forces), the latter between the innermost ties of matter which
                                        science refers to as atoms (9). Each and every one of these
                                        subterranean forces cohere with one of the 9 inner-earth layers, all
                                        being a contra-reflection of the 9 higher hierarchies of angels (4).

                                        Electricity is fallen/materialized light and occurs in one another
                                        attracting opposite or repulsive similar charges. This is a
                                        reflection of the World of the Soul, basically existing of the forces
                                        of sympathy and antipathy; in the Etheric-Life World this is
                                        reflected as Light-Ether. Electricity was (re)discovered by Galvani
                                        in 1785, a year after the discovery of Uranus, which itself
                                        specifically coheres with our Spirit Self (Manas) forces - generating
                                        the ability for us to develop the faculty of Clair-voyancy (2nd step
                                        of Goethean Science) – built up on our soul-body. When you look at
                                        the greys you see they mainly communicate with the transfer of the
                                        consciousness of thoughts, by paralyzing the will of humans and
                                        dimming the human self-consciousness in the soul-body. This enables
                                        them to subsequently steel Life-forces by puncturing the organs and
                                        the genitals. The being who these effects in the Soul-Astral World
                                        originate from is Lucifer (the Biblical Diabolos), who has provided
                                        us with discernment and egoism in our soul-body (this may sound weird
                                        regarding possible conventional spiritual views, but lets say
                                        everything has two sides and it depends from what level you look at
                                        phenomena). The outward appearance of the greys is tightened and
                                        stony, soulless, with big expressionless eyes. Their propulsion in
                                        machines is accompanied by light- and color phenomena. This indicates
                                        more they have mastered the astral qualities in an outward way than
                                        inwardly (10). With intervals and sounds one can fill one's soul,
                                        which can enable them to let them come along by this purposeful
                                        filled sound.

                                        (Electro-)magnetism characterizes itself by electric charges that
                                        move spirally; the movement then is an effect stemming from the
                                        Etheric-Life World and expressing itself in the Sound- or Chemical
                                        Ether. The Vegetable World is very sensitive for this. In the 19th
                                        Century this force was discovered (by Maxwell) and it coheres with
                                        the discovery of the planet Neptune in 1846. Neptune generates the
                                        forces of the so-called Life Spirit (Buddhi), which enables the
                                        development of the faculty of Inspiration, viz. Clair-feeling/Clair-
                                        sentiency in other beings and processes of Life (the 3rd step of
                                        Goethean Science; Clair-audiency is a faculty that can go hand in
                                        hand with it). Electromagnetism enables a subterranean entry into the
                                        Etheric-Life World, where it can be used in a manipulative manner.
                                        Simultaneously there were oil-drillings in the year of its discovery,
                                        setting free the latent astral dragon-reptilian-dinosaur forces (11).
                                        Mainly Ahriman (12) works in this realm. He is the `genius' who is
                                        focused on directing the forces of the Etheric-Life World on his own
                                        earthly Kingdom, and chaining the human being into his reign over
                                        that Kingdom. That's why he's focused on condensing the fallen
                                        elemental beings more and more out of our Etheric-Life-forces (i.e.
                                        the organ-forces) and make them more powerful, more physical, which
                                        thus eventually makes us subordinate to intelligent machines.
                                        Therefore he sends along with every incarnating human being a being
                                        that is called the Etheric Double(13). Curing them and trying to
                                        integrate these reptilians into an ascending spiritual development is
                                        possible through sounds and rhythms that are filled with our soul-
                                        substance. Those sounds and rhythms can be built up out of effects of
                                        the stars and planets. The Etheric-Life World consists of these two
                                        ingredients or workings, and by de-mechanization of e.g. moving TV-
                                        images and video-clips this can be directed again on a purposeful
                                        development of humanity and the world in which these reptilians can
                                        move along (and probably are not able to do otherwise).

                                        Gravity is something to which we have to generate an opposing force,
                                        viz. that of the erection out of our will. When our will is blocked,
                                        e.g. by an illness, we are only able to lie down and are at the mercy
                                        of heaviness. Gravity is a force that presses all beings and people
                                        on earth, so that they can come to a development and will not
                                        prematurely `fly away'. This force has a subterranean antipole, viz
                                        nuclear power. This is the potential will residing in matter that can
                                        generate disintegration and also contains the possible power to
                                        dissolve the earth (viz. enabling transformation and sublimation) in
                                        a far future.

                                        Since the beginning of the 20th century (discovered by the Curie-
                                        couple) this force has come into the human consciousness and was also
                                        made available and applicable in the 1930's and 40's (atomic bomb).
                                        It more or less coincides with the discovery of Pluto in 1930, which
                                        planet is the basis for the Spirit Man forces, viz. the creative
                                        forces which will become available to the human being when s/he
                                        transforms her/his physical body through her/his spirit (the 4th step
                                        of Goethean Science) – her/his I or Higher Self out of the ideals
                                        which reside in the so-called phantom body (14). We work with our
                                        will through our warmth-organization, the `point of impact' of our
                                        spirit. In the Etheric-Life World this forms the Warmth-ether (this
                                        is something else than what is often defined as and quantified in
                                        energy).

                                        This connection with the will strongly makes you think of the E.T.'s,
                                        which call themselves beings from Mars (Mars is the planet of the
                                        force of the will, i.e. bringing forth the processes of the gal in
                                        our being - the force of taking initiative). These beings assert a
                                        catastrophy has happened on their planet, after which a part of them
                                        came to Earth and is waiting for a non-violent acceptance by
                                        humanity. They take little initiative, look `tanned' and hardened
                                        (like in the movies `E.T.' and `My uncle from Mars') but are equipped
                                        with an inexhaustible will-power. Most probably are they elemental
                                        beings which have loosened from human beings and which cohere with
                                        the techniques we have realized on Earth with the forces of Mars. But
                                        this technique is not furnished with the spiritual touch of our
                                        Higher Self or with our soul-substance. Our propulsion-techniques
                                        (car, plane, rocket) are characterized by impersonalized forces of
                                        the will, as an extension of our will, so everybody can operate them.
                                        In its turn destructions and explosions are caused by it.
                                        Redeeming and reintegrating them in an ascending evolutionary
                                        development is possible by developing a `moral technique' consisting
                                        of our own skills, having an inward accent and direction, in stead of
                                        purely outer techniques. By the way the greys also strongly use
                                        paralysis of the will-power of humans.

                                        VanderWaals or nuclear forces keep matter together, they are
                                        contracting forces and they need to be discerned from atomic forces
                                        which in its turn generate the tendency to dissolve. The ultimate
                                        feature of matter is form, in which all beings and phenomena express
                                        themselves. Form is condensed spirit, eventually an outworking of
                                        what lives in the stars as the thoughts of the Gods and the Divine
                                        Plan of Creation. In Christ this Cosmic Word has become `flesh'/form
                                        (16). When matter falls apart, it crumbles into meaninglessness. The
                                        cohering forces in the Etheric-Life World are of the highest so far
                                        manifested order, and can be called those of the Form-Ether or `Ether
                                        of Purpose' (one of its qualities is that it maintains life in its
                                        form). When looking at the `locusts' we are struck by its outspoken
                                        figure: a skeleton on the outside which has hardened in its form as
                                        an Armour. These are mostly the leaders of the other UFO's, although
                                        they operate more in the background. They are beings of darkness
                                        expelled from the sun, called Asura's. Their combined intelligence is
                                        indicated by the name `Sorat', the being who aims to splice off
                                        peaces of the Self (16). By obscuring the purpose of Humanity they
                                        can try to splice the Self of humans, which actually is a oneness,
                                        and to use these `pieces of the Self' (viz. being warmth-
                                        organization) to use it for the incorporation of an Asura being in a
                                        human body. This sometimes already happens, recognizable by the empty
                                        dark eyes of some people who mostly radiate a glowing hatred (which
                                        itself is undirected, unpurified dark warmth).

                                        Transforming them is possible by the following. By his crucifixion in
                                        the Etheric-Life World (17) Christ has been able to let new elemental
                                        beings flow into the Etheric-Life World with the qualities of Love
                                        and Freedom, which we can thus use to furnish these beings again with
                                        seeds of development and growth, and if possible to transform them in
                                        a process of development for the good. We then need to bring them in
                                        a subordination to Humanity. Out of (our) wisdom and warmth we can
                                        try to offer them seeds of a freedom of their own, so they can
                                        clarify, transform and enlighten their undifferentiated `hate-
                                        warmth' – although this is going to be a very slow process of gaining
                                        awareness. It's also not possible to realize this completely before
                                        Christ has `conquered' the 9th inner layer of the Earth (18), where a
                                        fallen Seraphim (`previous' Angel of Love) brings about hate and
                                        black magic (19). "
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