Re: [anthroposophy] Thinking and Freedom
The Philosophy Of Freedom has set me free - free of dogma, free of peer
pressure, free of popular opinion, free of political correctness. It has
taught me that all I need to do in order to be free, is to think.
However, others seem to be not so fortunate - they seem to be haunted by
their emotions. The only way for them to feel free is by ignoring that
which they don't feel sympathy toward.
It is so nice to be free, to know that there is something stable and
constant in this world, to know that you can find truth - by just
thinking. I wish upon each person the opportunity to experience this
I would say you may be mistaken here about the nature of thinking and feeling. The insight may be philosophically valid for you but human "perception" and cognition is far more complex than simply calling one side thinking and the other feeling.Tthis discounting of "feeling" precludes the rich nature of "sensory cognition or knowing"which precedes conceptual thinking and verbalization. If one walks into a room and shakes hands with someone and "feels" something strange about his person, this can be and often is a "perceptual feeling" and "psychic impression" that is based in the soul and feelings of each of us. We use this all the time in daily life. We might have a "feeling" about making a right turn and lo and behold, someone runs a red light and we would have been hit. To discount "feelings" in their fullness is a limited view of life and human nature. We can analyze later what this means but direct and immediate responses to the world and people is a form of intelligence just like "thinking". Though the Philosophy of Freedom deals with the philosophic and spiritual side of human consciousness and freedom, placing thesis this upon the full nature of human experience is simplistic in my opinion.
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- Hi Lee,
> This brings up something I have often encountered in Steiner'sworks and the writings of proponents. The divisions of human
>experience into thinking, feeling and willing seems simplistic.Of course it's simplistic, Lee. Divisions of the human being are made
for the purposes of scientific study. We pull apart the butterfly to
see how it works. There are always flaws in this approach to study in
that each part works in with the other.
When do we ever purely think, purely feel or purely will? It is
always a matter of cooperation between faculties.
I do believe that viewing the human being as a lot of fragmented
parts is fundamentally wrong to begin with- an unhealthy soul
conception. We are (or should be) after all, a functioning whole.
> I am driving a car without "thinking" but am perfectly aware in mySome have already had a go at answering your questions, so I won't go
>driving of the distance between cars, my speed, and the need to
>maintain safe distance.
over that again. Steiner uses the work "thinking" in a specific way.
What is spoken of colloquially as "thinking" is not thinking but a
parade of ideas.
The statement by Dr. Steiner that animals don't think is considered
controversial by some. Steiner did admit that animals deliberate.
Even a wasp deliberates or a beetle which really doesn't have much
that you could call a brain, deliberates. The great wisdom that a
beaver displays in constructing dams, lodges and canals to transport
logs, is something that the beast "sucks in" from outside of itself-
from the Cosmos according to Steiner. But still this must also
require some deliberation by the animal itself.
The difference between the animal and the human being is that the
human reasons in full waking consciousness. The human being is not
stuck in one area of reasoned thought that goes around and around-
like a beaver building dams season after season. Of course,
some_are_stuck on this merry-go-round. It really is just a matter of
semantics though, and I quite understand if most people want to
believe that animals think.
So the conditions of driving a manual car and "automatically"
changing gears, or "automatically" touch typing as you read a text
don't really come under the heading of "thinking". In fact if you
become conscious of your fingers moving to each key one by one you
slow right down- so thinking about the process doesn't help.
> Someone isin nature and has a sudden burst of energy coming to himYes there are other ways of knowing besides thinking. In fact human
>or her from the mountains around. They "feel" an energetic
>connection to the geology around me.
beings in the ancient past had an instinctual knowing that enabled
them to build civilisations that rivalled own in technological
In the realm of thinking we can become conscious, in the feeling life
we live in a dream and in willing we are in a deep sleep. That is why
we have the capacity for freedom in thinking. We are also vunerable
to attack as well, something we are protected from in the feeling
realm. This attack comes from Satan/Ahriman and its result is
intellectuallism- divorced from real life.
Thanx for the questions,