Re: [anthroposophy] Thinking and Freedom
- evert.hoff@... writes:
The Philosophy Of Freedom has set me free - free of dogma, free of peer
pressure, free of popular opinion, free of political correctness. It has
taught me that all I need to do in order to be free, is to think.
However, others seem to be not so fortunate - they seem to be haunted by
their emotions. The only way for them to feel free is by ignoring that
which they don't feel sympathy toward.
It is so nice to be free, to know that there is something stable and
constant in this world, to know that you can find truth - by just
thinking. I wish upon each person the opportunity to experience this
Once again, I want to emphasize the importance of making decisions based
on thinking, instead of feeling. We have emotions in common with
animals, but only humans can think. If a human makes a decision based on
feelings, he/she is actually operating at a level BELOW that of animals.
This is due to the fact that animals have instincts, that we don't have.
As I understand it, animal instinct is actually thinking being done by
the species' group consciousness level. So, instinct is thinking. Since
humans do not have instinct, a human who operates only at the feeling
level is actually operating at a level below that of animals.
*******There was even a prediction of Steiner's that, once a certain technology developed, many people would use it to bypass thinking and put raw emotion, like personal attacks, out into the airwaves towards others. He predicted this for about the time of the rising of the sun demon Sorath in 1998. You can find it here.
- Hi Lee,
> This brings up something I have often encountered in Steiner'sworks and the writings of proponents. The divisions of human
>experience into thinking, feeling and willing seems simplistic.Of course it's simplistic, Lee. Divisions of the human being are made
for the purposes of scientific study. We pull apart the butterfly to
see how it works. There are always flaws in this approach to study in
that each part works in with the other.
When do we ever purely think, purely feel or purely will? It is
always a matter of cooperation between faculties.
I do believe that viewing the human being as a lot of fragmented
parts is fundamentally wrong to begin with- an unhealthy soul
conception. We are (or should be) after all, a functioning whole.
> I am driving a car without "thinking" but am perfectly aware in mySome have already had a go at answering your questions, so I won't go
>driving of the distance between cars, my speed, and the need to
>maintain safe distance.
over that again. Steiner uses the work "thinking" in a specific way.
What is spoken of colloquially as "thinking" is not thinking but a
parade of ideas.
The statement by Dr. Steiner that animals don't think is considered
controversial by some. Steiner did admit that animals deliberate.
Even a wasp deliberates or a beetle which really doesn't have much
that you could call a brain, deliberates. The great wisdom that a
beaver displays in constructing dams, lodges and canals to transport
logs, is something that the beast "sucks in" from outside of itself-
from the Cosmos according to Steiner. But still this must also
require some deliberation by the animal itself.
The difference between the animal and the human being is that the
human reasons in full waking consciousness. The human being is not
stuck in one area of reasoned thought that goes around and around-
like a beaver building dams season after season. Of course,
some_are_stuck on this merry-go-round. It really is just a matter of
semantics though, and I quite understand if most people want to
believe that animals think.
So the conditions of driving a manual car and "automatically"
changing gears, or "automatically" touch typing as you read a text
don't really come under the heading of "thinking". In fact if you
become conscious of your fingers moving to each key one by one you
slow right down- so thinking about the process doesn't help.
> Someone isin nature and has a sudden burst of energy coming to himYes there are other ways of knowing besides thinking. In fact human
>or her from the mountains around. They "feel" an energetic
>connection to the geology around me.
beings in the ancient past had an instinctual knowing that enabled
them to build civilisations that rivalled own in technological
In the realm of thinking we can become conscious, in the feeling life
we live in a dream and in willing we are in a deep sleep. That is why
we have the capacity for freedom in thinking. We are also vunerable
to attack as well, something we are protected from in the feeling
realm. This attack comes from Satan/Ahriman and its result is
intellectuallism- divorced from real life.
Thanx for the questions,