12 senses-Re: Sense of smell-Re: our materialistic
- Hello danny, dear silent lurker on this subject (you know who you are...),
>From: "Danny F." <premabrahma@...>Danny, i agree with you. And also your post makes me laugh. I just have this
> This is terribly silly I find to have come to think we only have 5
> senses, again the feeble-mindedness of our age wants to see(humans
> have become mostly bleak sight beings(TV watcher pattern)) for real
> only what is most easy and conspicuous...
image of feeble-minded creatures walking around, like some robotic monsters
locked up in five senses. Now, what's funny about that? I'm not sure. Just
the absurdity, i suppose, and the relief that it's not really that way (not
Seriously, though, you continue:
>Yes, or as Tom Mellet discusses on his list --Will or Body (Physical)
> In the book 'Study of Man' Steiner goes as follow:
> " First we have four senses; the sense of touch, sense of life,
> of movement, and balance. These senses are mostly penetrated by will
>Yes, or Soul senses (in the triumvirate of Body-Soul-Spirit)
> " The next senses - sense of smell, sense of taste, sense of sight,
> sense of warmth - are chieftly feeling senses."
>Yes, or Spirit senses (all is spirit in a way, but Spirit more particularly
> " I have yet to add the ego sense, thought sense, sense of hearing,
> and sense of speech are predominantly knowledge senses..."
here with these four senses, EGO sense being the highest.
(Not Ego as in egotistical..., but as in sense of the so-called other...or
the selfless Christ-in-Me)
>-----OOH, what would we do without Aristotle for categories!?! (Aristotle-Steiner
> Correction: sight beings, and ego beings(smile)...
> Is someone on the list knowing enough the Aristotelian categories to
> relate them to the 12 senses? A young soul..(smile)
categories?)--No, I don't know the 5th century B.C.E. Greek version.
Anyway, as i understand all this, the work is to transform each level of
sense, to reach the higher sense, and the next higher and so on up to EGO.
On the thread of our materialistic culture, I think looking at TV, and even
increasing use of the internet (that which i am now doing--hmm) helps
promote the illusion of limited senses. Here, we don't even use hearing, and
what we use of sight is limited. So, as Tom asks on his list, how can we
reach Ego, when we haven't transformed the lower senses?
He cites the blind-deaf Helen Keller as a model of transformation. Now, some
may be put off by Tom's initial language, but, as someone here lurking
advised me, if you can get past his New York "street language", odd sense of
humor, and what some would call profanities, there is a site worth viewing.
I don't have the exact address, but i think if you do a search with
Steiner98 as key words you will find the site, and a page onwhat he says on
Thanks for your offerings, danny, and unnamed lurker.
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- --- elaine upton <elaineupton@...> wrote:
> From: "elaine upton" <elaineupton@...>To be frank with you I thought there was 12 of these categories, but
> > Is someone on the list knowing enough the Aristotelian categories
> > relate them to the 12 senses? A young soul..(smile)
> OOH, what would we do without Aristotle for categories!?!
> categories?)--No, I don't know the 5th century B.C.E. Greek version.
then I made a search on the net to discover there's is 10...
I find it's always interesting, to connect, relate and web things
together; pure thinking.
> Anyway, as i understand all this, the work is to transform each levelThe Plato's 'cave story' would be a functional model too....
> sense, to reach the higher sense, and the next higher and so on up to
> On the thread of our materialistic culture, I think looking at TV,
> and even
> increasing use of the internet (that which i am now doing--hmm) helps
> promote the illusion of limited senses. Here, we don't even use
> hearing, and
> what we use of sight is limited. So, as Tom asks on his list, how can
> reach Ego, when we haven't transformed the lower senses?
> He cites the blind-deaf Helen Keller as a model of transformation.
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