Re: [anthroposophy] Schizophrenia and Paul
- -----Original Message-----
From: "Bradford Riley"<holderlin66@...>
After re-reading the fine work by Elaine and Danny it suddenly dawned on me
that obviously the severe issue of Schizophrenia is like a certain
psychological condition called 'More Abundus Paulus'. In St. Paul we have
such a radical schism from materialistic insantity to sanity, but nursed
through with a very conscious experience. Paul's experience was purely
subjective. His former personality was sternly and aggressively destroying
and stamping out these petty, momentary rabble rousers. He was an esoteric
club member with the Hebrews and well respected within the establishment for
his hard line conservative points of view and his scintillating intellect.
Oops! We locate a pattern here in how the mind radically shifts gears so
that the esoteric and unused part of the brain suddenly is flashed open and
bam! Suddenly a purely subjective, unprovable state of soul, has to fly
against the whole established thinking. He must have sounded like he was off
Some current trends in thought:
"...undergoing a spiritual awakening. He sat down and tried to "make
something happen." It proved easy to do. As he watched, the walls around him
began to wave, picture frames shimmied. He believed he could see the
individual molecules in objects. He extended his arms out to the sides and
watched particles of light shoot through his body.
Let's speak about those particles of light...
They have to do with chemical and light ether, with the organization of space...
There are really such a thing as particles
dancing and streaming... The Ancients did speak about "a-tom"(that which can't be divided) they had some clairvoyance after all didn't they? So this makes me think about the dot that becomes a sphere and yet remain itself... an Infinite Sphere is a Dot..
A Father Ground kind of thing that Logoically expand to a Periphery, a Holy Spirit Space filled with Beings moving and getting conscious in it.. Different Matrixes here and there arising as Logoic organs and Archetypical centers...
'I', as a CENTER, and the Father are ONE.
What do you think?
A fruit had sprung into existence inside his being: rare, sweet, ripening
"Lunatic. Insane. Demented. What happened in the downtown club was simple:
Josh Beil began losing his mind. Josh will grant you that he'll insist on
it. That's the easy part. But he'll also insist that while he was in that
mad, mad world he was in another place as well: the place of the mystic, the
zone of spiritual transcendence. He was where St. Paul was when he had his
vision on the Road to Damascus, where the Buddha was when, sitting
cross-legged under a tree, things clicked in the most profound way.
There is nothing special about such a claim on its own: lots of madmen have
believed themselves to be divine. But Josh himself isn't the entire point.
What makes his situation remarkable is that more and more these days,
psychiatry the profession that used to marched in lock step under Freud's
pro-science/anti-religion banner is beginning to agree with Josh.
Psychiatrists and psychologists around the country, at major universities
and hospitals, are studying religious experience as a natural, complex human
phenomenon, and many of these professionals, noting the seeming similarities
between religious ecstasy and psychosis, have concluded that psychosis and
mysticism are closely related conditions, maybe so close that the
differences lie only in the way society judges them.
David Lukoff, PhD, a professor of psychology at the Saybrook Graduate School
and Research Institute in San Francisco, is one of the leaders of this
movement. In 1994, he and two of his colleagues steered it straight into the
mainstream of the profession when they succeeded in getting a new diagnostic
category, "the religious or spiritual problem," added to the DSM. That
accomplishment makes this new psycho-mystical perspective at least
technically billable to insurance companies, but even more it indicates the
willingness of psychiatry to extend beyond its longstanding boundaries and
venture into the no-man's-land of religion."
Lets not forget Swedenborg either. Here a mild mannered scientist, working
diligently within the laws of science and steadily producing well thought
out inches and centimeters of scientific thinking. All well and good, bam!
Martians and Angels and sex and vision... Oops! the back door of Loyola
opened up and there is suddenly a newly born Schizophrenic.
If we deny the problem of radical Schizophrenia developing and we maintain a
hard line that Paul was a terrorist and Steiner insane and Swedenborg
nuts... We have a whole realm of uncharted spiritual history and experience
which must conform to the narrow definitions of current medical hype. While
there are reasons for everything, we might and are certainly drifting toward
a mandatory injection so that souls will not have to ever encounter or feel
the twinges from the new unexplored psychic region that materialism wishes
Site below is truly interesting;
"Vision-logic, or network logic, is a transitional stage which transcends
formal operational thinking and which can effect an increase in
globalization, or in the capacity to intuitively appropriate the
perspectives and to live the imperatives of a deeper, global identity, a
globalization that goes beyond that made possible by rational thinking.
Those at this developmental level are on the verge of the transpersonal.
The first of the transpersonal levels, the psychic, is that in which there
is a recognition of what Emerson described as the Over-Soul, that is, the
discerning in others of the Soul, or Presence, that one discerns in
oneself.14 At this level, as with those above it, individuality does not
disappear, but "is negated and preserved in a deeper and wider ground, a
ground that conspicuously includes all of nature and its glories."15 At this
level, the moral imperative becomes less a matter of shoulds, an imposition,
and more a natural expression of being.
At the next, or subtle level, this Universal Self, that is present in
others, is directly experienced in the unity of the physiosphere, biosphere
and noosphere. This Self is the originating and sustaining ground of matter,
life and mind, whose glories withdraw before the radiance of the Spirit that
is their Ground. This stage is represented by the sixth mansion in Teresa's
Interior Castle, where the Lover and the Beloved, God and the human soul
enjoy occasional intimacy and where all creatures are embraced by the love
and joy that are generated within one's inner being.16
In the realm of the causal, the uniting of the soul and God, that was the
fitful experience of the subtle level, is transcended in what Wilber
describes as "the prior identity of Godhead, or pure formless awareness,
pure consciousness as such, the pure Self as pure Spirit."17 The experience
of union with God has been overtaken by an identity with Godhead. As Eckhart
put it, "I find in this breakthrough that God and I are one and the same."18
This experience is also reflected in the comment of the Johannine Jesus,
that, "I and my Father are one."19 This state is often described as
"formlessness", primordial "emptiness". It is an experience of absolute
being, or, to put it in the language of the Hebrew Scriptures, of "I AM THAT
I AM."20 What is experienced cannot be adequately described. The only way to
approach an explanation is through negation, that is, through indicating
what it is not [Sanskrit: neti, neti]. It is the pure Witness of "this and
this"  that transcends "this and this". This state borders on the
experience of a total overcoming of the subject/ object dichotomy.
When one breaks through the formless causal, or the "absorption into pure
unmanifest and unborn Spirit, the entire manifest world [or worlds] arises
once again, but this time as a perfect expression of Spirit and as Spirit.
The formless and the entire world of manifest Form--pure Emptiness and the
whole Kosmos--are seen to be not-two [or non-dual]."21
These transpersonal states of awareness are experienced and nurtured through
meditation, without which they are nothing more than intriguing metaphysical
theory that appears to have little connection with reality.
Christianity has been suspicious of transpersonal exploration, a suspicion
resulting from a number of factors.
The first is a distrust in both the human body and in the teleological
energies of the body/self. It is through the embodied apperception of the
body/self that the Cosmic Presence is discerned.
Second, Wilber, who, incidentally, holds no brief for Christianity, argued
that the divinizing of Jesus, and the development of the doctrine of the
Trinity, discouraged the possibility of his followers experiencing a
Christic union with the divine.22 Christian contemplatives, while admired
for other reasons, have found that their mystical experiences, which were
foundational to who they were, were regarded with incomprehension and
The third relates to the separation, in the Mental Egoic phase in the
development of human consciousness, the tentative beginnings of which Wilber
situates around 2500 BCE,23 of the eros-driven path of ascent and the
agape-driven path of descent, the healthful union of which resulted in the
integration of wisdom and compassion. The fact that the West has been unable
to hold together the balance between ascent and descent, in spite of
Augustine24 and Schelling's25 attempts to do so, has resulted in a war
between the Ascenders and in the Descenders and in the current dominance of
the Descenders and disparagement of the Ascenders.26 This war, and its
outcome, evident in the philosophical, scientific and political history of
the West, is also reflected in the Church's, or, at least, in
Protestantism's disinclination to take seriously the Church's tradition of
Steiner credits Nietzsche with one of the most massive cases of true
Schizophrenia ever recorded. It is the part where Ahriman, the great ancient
god, the Job antagonizer, is in the house! Welcome to the show, we got
Ahriman in the house. It was justified considering the download of
materialism in the minds and hearts of the Germanic elite, that Uncle
Ahriman would need to find a nice poet and use his human vehicle for the
corporate state system of Ahrimanic university training.
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
List owner: firstname.lastname@example.org
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/