- Dear LisaI apologize to you if you took my message as a personal "attack". I said, "If you do not see yourself as a sinner, then you reject Christ's work on the cross."The operative word here is "IF". I never said that you claim to be perfect or that you reject Christ. I said "if". My main point is that Jesus had not come for the "healthy", but for the "sick" (Mk. 2:17). In other words, those who acknowledge that they are a sinner before God, and repent and turn to Christ have been called by God. Those who claim to be without a sinful nature, do not see a need for a Saviour. "Why do I need a Saviour when I am not such a bad person - I am a good person", would be the unbeliever's response to the gospel.Maybe I should have replaced the word "you" with "one" or "we". I am sorry again.Michael.----- Original Message -----From: "lisastephzim" <lisastephzim@...>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:07 PMSubject: [anthroposophy] Re: Att: Lisa> Michael,
> Gosh...and to think, I was worried that I may have sounded too harsh
> in my previous reply to your post! Thank you so very much for
> setting my mind at ease.
> I am just blown away...
> The 'dark waters' I referred to was the sludge and condemnation
> seeping from your words....YOURS Michael, not God's.
> You did not approach this list in the manner in which someone wishing
> to spread the Word of God...with the desire to REACH out to others
> with an embrace of Love would do.
> >The dark waters must have been the devil's weapon in order to
> prevent you from seeing the light of the gospel of Christ:<
> I do see the light, better the question would be...do YOU? An
> approach with the Gospel on your part would be received better by
> anyone, I should think. Instead, you came out with your guns firing.
> And why? Just what WAS your intention in posting? Your post felt ,
> to me, like an ALL-ASSUMING attack on those who frequent this list.
> What on Earth, or Heaven for that matter, gives you the right or
> justification to assume that no one on this list could possibly have
> Christ in their hearts? As you should well know, each individual's
> relationship with Jesus is only accountable to HIM not to you or any
> other person on this Earth
> >But Lisa, if you do not see yourself as a sinner, then you reject
> Christ's work on the cross. >"Whoever rejects the Son will not see
> life, for God's wrath remains on him" (Jn. 3:36). That >isnot what I
> say, it is what God says.<
> ?!?!?! Where did you get this? When did I claim perfection and void
> of a sinless nature...or rejection of Jesus?
> I am sorry Michael, you really are coming from left field here...
> If you wish to continue with this 'discussion' in a nicer way, feel
> free to email me at lisastephzim@... -so as not to fill this
> list with off topic discussions.
> Have a good day, Michael.
> Best Wishes,